ANTI-MUSLIMS MODI?

[TheChooChooTrain]

Muslims are around 15% of the population. What percentage of BJP lawmakers are Muslims? Or since it's the elections month (how many percentage of BJP ticket holders are Muslims.

Since Modi is not anti Muslim, I am sure the percentage will be representative of indian demographics.

That is a very simplistic way of looking at things, What percentage would be appropriate according to you ? Would 15% of population need 15% representation in parliament? Who decides that? Does that mean women with 49% of the population would require 49% of the representation in parliament? How are we going to enforce this in elections where people from multiple faiths can join the elections under a party or being an independent. Should we limit certain seats in parliament to only have Muslims MP's, in which case this would be a discrimination against every other person in that particular seat who has a different religion?

Democracy is a simple process, anyone can fight elections under any party. If you can't win the popular vote. No point in complaining. The more you try to limit the process to certain religious or any ethnic identity, the more you filter away the 'merit' from the system.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Muslims are around 15% of the population. What percentage of BJP lawmakers are Muslims? Or since it's the elections month (how many percentage of BJP ticket holders are Muslims.

Since Modi is not anti Muslim, I am sure the percentage will be representative of indian demographics.

This is politics, not free social services.

You don't just need to think one way - example - how many black people can win elections in USA, or minorities in Pakistan? Etc etc...

Till there is no changes in fundamental rights of indian constitution. These are just useless blames... Everyone knows the facts, when you just apply the same on yourself and on own country......

 

[Asfandyar Bhittani]

This is politics, not free social services.

You don't just need to think one way - example - how many black people can win elections in USA, or minorities in Pakistan? Etc etc...

Till there is no changes in fundamental rights of indian constitution. These are just useless blames... Everyone knows the facts, when you just apply the same on yourself and on own country......

Pakistan has reserved seats for minorities. So even if they can't win in the general election, they get representation in the parliament. So no you can't apply the same on Pakistan.


No representation under Hindu majority was the chief reason for partition. Jinnah was clearly right.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Pakistani has reserved seats for minorities. So even if they can't win in the general election, they get representation in the parliament. So no you can't apply the same on Pakistan.


No representation under Hindu majority was the chief reason for partition. Jinnah was clearly right.

6 Minorities MP in Pakistan???

India has around 27 muslim minorities in lok sabha and around 6 minorities CM's out of 30 states in India.

As I said, minorities always has less chances when comes to politics.

Only affects when there is fundamental rights of constitution is not equal- where Pakistan lack and negative points for minorities and increase challenges who live their.

If there any changes in India, I will be one of the first to full go against it. It would never be accepted

 

[Asfandyar Bhittani]

6 Minorities MP in Pakistan???

India has around 27 muslim minorities in lok sabha and around 6 minorities CM's out of 30 states in India.

As I said, minorities always has less chances when comes to politics.

Only affects when there is fundamental rights of constitution - where Pakistan lack and negative for minorities

No, the number would have been higher if PTI was given it's reserved seats and not made run as independents. In 2018 it was around 10. Which comes around 3% of national parliament. Which is close to their national population. More independents means less reserved seats. (This is just at national level)These are only reserved seats, not minorities who might win on general seats. There are usually couple of those.

While 27 would means 5% of total seats when the population is around 15%. But that's not even the main debate here. What % of these are "not anti Muslim" BJP, that's the question?

Surely there must be a reason Muslims are almost non existent within the "Not anti Muslim" party especially compared to other parties.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

No, the number would have been higher if PTI was given it's reserved seats and not made run as independents. In 2018 it was around 10. Which comes around 3% of national parliament. Which is close to their national population. More independents means less reserved seats. (This is just at national level)These are only reserved seats, not minorities who might win on general seats. There are usually couple of those.

While 27 would means 5% of total seats when the population is around 15%. But that's not even the main debate here. What % of these are "not anti Muslim" BJP, that's the question?

Surely there must be a reason Muslims are almost non existent within the "Not anti Muslim" party especially compared to other parties.

My question to you - why do you need to reserve seats?

To me - it just to showcasing to the world that we care about the minorities.

Real question is that " can they win the election in real" ?

Reservation is a last resort, Even I don't support any reservations in India and special quota systems....

I support quota systems/ reservation if it's really required and nasty....

Bjp is having hardcore hindu supporters, they usually support them always - does not matter their performance is good or bad. As per common understanding - why they want to.lose such hardcore supporters for a few Muslims MPs?

Even I remember about imran khan - and why hed usually called "Taliban Khan'.. these are just vote politics

 

[Asfandyar Bhittani]

My question to you - why do you need reverse seat?

To me - it just to showcasing to the world that we care about the minorities.

Real question is that " can they win the election in real" ?

Reservation is a last resort, not a solution...

The thread isnt about who is showcasing what which you didn't have to ask if you know anything about Muslim league, it's demands in united British raj. The thread is about the "not anti Muslim" modi. Answer my questions regarding that. Why are there next to Muslims in BJP, especially compared to other major parties?

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

The thread isnt about who is showcasing what which you didn't have to ask if you know anything about Muslim league, it's demands in united British raj. The thread is about the "not anti Muslim" modi. Answer my questions regarding that. Why are there next to Muslims in BJP, especially compared to other major parties?

Let me below copy paste from my last modified post.

Bjp is having hardcore hindu supporters, they usually support them always - does not matter their performance is good or bad. As per common understanding - why they want to.lose such hardcore supporters for a few Muslims MPs?

Even I remember about imran khan - and why hed usually called "Taliban Khan'.. these are just examples of vote politics. And there are some other Pakistan's parties those play religious cards

There are many political parties in both the country - they play religious and others cards.

I never understand Pakistan obsessions with RSS and BJP, why the hell they interested in Indian politics? Are Indian muslims asking help from them?

Bjp is having a strong support from core Hindus group, some others parties are having from different religion and religious... Almost, all parties play the dirty vote politics to win.

Again, winning for minorities in elections is very minimal - not in India only , it's apply to everywhere. I strongly believe on fundamental rights - muslims are in India, they are usually qualify and occupies many important posts in government and private offices, they get the same opportunity everywhere in India - that's most important for.me

 

[Cryptonian]

No, the number would have been higher if PTI was given it's reserved seats and not made run as independents. In 2018 it was around 10. Which comes around 3% of national parliament. Which is close to their national population. More independents means less reserved seats. (This is just at national level)These are only reserved seats, not minorities who might win on general seats. There are usually couple of those.

While 27 would means 5% of total seats when the population is around 15%. But that's not even the main debate here. What % of these are "not anti Muslim" BJP, that's the question?

Surely there must be a reason Muslims are almost non existent within the "Not anti Muslim" party especially compared to other parties.

Maybe instead of just leeching off the schemes and freebies, Indian Muslims should vote BJP more, it will make BJP field more Muslim candidates.
Why should BJP risk losing dozens of seats by fielding a candidate which does not bring much votebank.

 

[Areesh]

India has around 27 muslim minorities in lok sabha

How many of them are from BJP?

 

[Areesh]

Indian Muslims should vote BJP more

I think this makes complete

After all the show of bigotry and islamophobia by BJP leaders and workers nearly every other day, not to forget BJP role in various anti muslim pogroms and massacres it makes complete sense that Muslims should vote more for BJP

I completely agree with this logic that you have shared

 

[Cryptonian]

I think this makes complete

After all the show of bigotry and islamophobia by BJP leaders and workers nearly every other day, not to forget BJP role in various anti muslim pogroms and massacres it makes complete sense that Muslims should vote more for BJP

I completely agree with this logic that you have shared

yadayadayada. Muslims have initiated every street violence since 1900s. From Kerala-Moplah Hindu massacre to Jinnah's direct action , to 2002 Gujarat train burning , to delhi anti-CAA violence.

 

[Areesh]

yadayadayada. Muslims have initiated every street violence since 1900s. From Kerala-Moplah Hindu massacre to Jinnah's direct action , to 2002 Gujarat train burning , to delhi anti-CAA violence.

Yeah yeah

Innocent oppressed cute Hindus. Evil Muslims blah blah

Have heard this nonsense too many times now

 

[Asfandyar Bhittani]

Let me below copy paste from my last modified post.

Bjp is having hardcore hindu supporters, they usually support them always - does not matter their performance is good or bad. As per common understanding - why they want to.lose such hardcore supporters for a few Muslims MPs?

Even I remember about imran khan - and why hed usually called "Taliban Khan'.. these are just examples of vote politics.

There are many political parties in both the country - they play religious and others cards.

I never understand Pakistan obsessions with RSS and BJP, why the hell they interested in Indian politics? Are Indian muslims asking help from them?

Bjp is having a strong support from core Hindus group, some others parties are having from different religion and religious... Almost, all parties play the dirty vote politics to win.

Again, winning for minorities in elections is very hard - not in India only , it's apply to everywhere. I strongly believe on fundamental rights - muslims are in India, they are usually qualified and occupied many important posts in government and private offices, they get the same opportunity in everywhere in India - that's most important for.me

1) why would BJP lose supporters over Muslim MPs? Is it because they are Anti Muslim? If the party gives into these anti Muslim extremists and cuts itself off from 15% of society, doesn't that make it Anti Muslim too be definition?

2) Imran Khan was called Taliban Khan because he took anti war stance, and that Pakistan shouldn't be fighting America's war and getting it's population droned. Too many dollars behind war to let someone call for dialogue, which eventually happened anyway.
Comparing him, The Sikh temple builder to Mosque demolishing party is hilarious. Imran's supporters aren't lynching Hindus in the streets not would it's supporters not vote because of Sikh or Hindi MNA. This is also true for the other two major parties.

3) Forget indian politics, even India is rarely the topic of our politics or mainstream political diaologue. But if I type Pakistan into Google now, the 70% of news hits are from indian sites. The obsession is the other way around. BJP/RSS types can't stop dragging Pakistan into indian mainstream politics and that forces (some) Pakistanis to respond. Only natural.

And last about rights, I think most people would be less willing to take your word at it than the barrage of independent articles one can find by typing in indian Muslims https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-68498675.amp

It's not secret that extremism is a problem in subcontinent, not just in India. But you won't find a Pakistani go around saying that TLP isn't anti Ahamdi or PPP isn't pro feudalism and so on. Somethings are beyond obvious. Good day

 

[Cryptonian]

Yeah yeah

Innocent oppressed cute Hindus. Evil Muslims blah blah

Have heard this nonsense too many times now

Sure sure, world knows why your first law minister left Pakistan within first year. Imagine how you treated the commoners. Muslim converts in subcontinent are more radical than the original ones. Why dont you search about Moplah Hindu massacre.
World is changing rapidly, sooner the subcontinent muslimes realise their past mistakes, the better.