Balochistan Terrorism Watch

[M. Sarmad]

respectfully, the tribal nature of Baloch people is such that they live breathe and worship their sardars. it will never work .. they will turn back to them and accept them as their lords. even if their kin are slain and their women violated, they always turn to their tormentors. the news of their tribal fights never surface on national news.. I am talking 40 years ago where they will enage each other with heavy weapons ..
working with the sardars is the way, their mindset cant change in the next 50 or 100 years. they would blow up every school, library, university and bridge and kill every worker and engineer to stay the way they have been for centuries because this gives them the chance to curse Punjab after all. @Goenitz

you might say, wait a moment , you were suggesting "personal visits" to the self exiled sardars in UAE, Switzerland and India etc.. yes I was .. the ones that will replace these surdars will be more amicable for talks. pleading and bribing wont work because we cant match the cash and the whores at the disposal of Emeratis, Indians and Israelis to intice these sardars.

Respectfully, this is precisely the kind of thinking that has helped keep Balochistan stuck for decades....

You cannot spend half a century treating people primarily through the prism of tribes and sardars, then point to the continued influence of sardars as proof that the people are incapable of change.... That's circular reasoning...!

More importantly, reducing millions of people to a caricature claiming they "worship" sardars, cannot change for a century, and would rather destroy schools than educate their children, is neither analysis nor policy.... It is prejudice masquerading as insight...

If Baloch society is as irredeemably tribal as you suggest, then the state's decades long strategy of relying on sardars has clearly failed..... If, on the other hand, Baloch are capable of the same social and political evolution as every other people on earth, then the answer lies in building institutions, opportunities, and trust rather than endlessly recycling the same colonial-era approach....

The irony is that your argument proves the opposite of what you intend... If working through sardars for seventy years hasn't integrated Balochistan, perhaps the problem is not the people but the strategy...

 

[Goenitz]

working with the sardars is the way, their mindset cant change in the next 50 or 100 years. they would blow up every school, library, university and bridge and kill every worker and engineer to stay the way they have been for centuries because this gives them the chance to curse Punjab after all.

Nah. man.. too much simplification.
See this post. Just replace Afghanistan with Balochistan.

Post in thread 'Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)'

Mar 19, 2026

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Afghanistan has long been a quagmire. Power has historically been decentralised, with different regions and groups asserting influence at different times. At some points, areas like Mazar-i-Sharif or Panjshir have aligned, while other regions like Herat or Kandahar have followed their own paths. Kabul has often been a focal point of authority, but not always a decisive one.

Like a pack of wolves (wetsern connotation), Afghans attack an outsider, and later everyone keeps fighting to be the Alpha to control the pack. Like wolves, they need spanking, herding...

• Goenitz

I guess we are all embarrassed and ashamed that Afghani are this hateful and conceited and murderous toward Pakistan.

What an absolute disgrace gents.

Hudd ho gaee hae Afghanio key begherti key!

Even E. Pakistanis turned towards us, and today's Pakistanis are turning towards Pakistanis with murderous intentions.
The point is, if you sideline and marginalise even your own kin, he will turn against you. It is totally natural.
IEA/TTA have no ideological enmity with Pakistan/Pakistanis (Durand Line = political issue), unlike TTP and India. However, our heavy bombing has worsened that.

 

[Lulldapull]

Nah. man.. too much simplification.
See this post

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Mar 19, 2026

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Afghanistan has long been a quagmire. Power has historically been decentralised, with different regions and groups asserting influence at different times. At some points, areas like Mazar-i-Sharif or Panjshir have aligned, while other regions like Herat or Kandahar have followed their own paths. Kabul has often been a focal point of authority, but not always a decisive one.

Like a pack of wolves (wetsern connotation), Afghans attack an outsider, and later everyone keeps fighting to be the Alpha to control the pack. Like wolves, they need spanking, herding...

• Goenitz

Even E. Pakistanis turned towards us, and today's Pakistanis are turning towards Pakistanis with murderous intentions.
The point is, if you sideline and marginalise even your own kin, he will turn against you. It is totally natural.
IEA/TTA have no ideological enmity with Pakistan/Pakistanis (Durand Line = political issue), unlike TTP and India. However, our heavy bombing has worsened that.

Achha?........Let me ask you a simple question here.......Have you personally ever benefited from any favors from our gubment?

An honest answer is reqd.

As far as I'm concerned, I have gotten jack shit from our gubment, not that I was ever expecting anything from them to begin with.

 

[Watandar]

cds and naqvi are busy proving allegiance to the iranians these days.......they give more time for iran than to manage their own country......

"shah se zyada shah kay wafadar" types...

I don't think that's fair. What are the hundreds of other people in leadership positions in police, paramilitary, army and politics doing ? Staring at walls ?

 

[Goenitz]

Achha?........Let me ask you a simple question here.......Have you personally ever benefited from any favors from our gubment?

An honest answer is reqd.

As far as I'm concerned, I have gotten jack shit from our gubment, not that I was ever expecting anything from them to begin with.

which govt Japan/UK?
I am still not a national, but by just paying council tax, I get garbage collection and cheap school education with free meals. That just takes away the main burden of expenditure. Not to mention freedom of job, expression and the right to live.

 

[Goenitz]

I don't think that's fair. What are the hundreds of other people in leadership positions in police, paramilitary, army and politics doing ? Staring at walls ?

all are cowards. It is not just the public who is afraid of danda , but even all servicemen till Lt Gens.
They saw what Yaha did but kept quiet, and today's will do the same.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Respectfully, this is precisely the kind of thinking that has helped keep Balochistan stuck for decades....

You cannot spend half a century treating people primarily through the prism of tribes and sardars, then point to the continued influence of sardars as proof that the people are incapable of change.... That's circular reasoning...!

More importantly, reducing millions of people to a caricature claiming they "worship" sardars, cannot change for a century, and would rather destroy schools than educate their children, is neither analysis nor policy.... It is prejudice masquerading as insight...

If Baloch society is as irredeemably tribal as you suggest, then the state's decades long strategy of relying on sardars has clearly failed..... If, on the other hand, Baloch are capable of the same social and political evolution as every other people on earth, then the answer lies in building institutions, opportunities, and trust rather than endlessly recycling the same colonial-era approach....

The irony is that your argument proves the opposite of what you intend... If working through sardars for seventy years hasn't integrated Balochistan, perhaps the problem is not the people but the strategy...

my comment was a sign of resgination. trust me we have tried it. we had people working for us who had suffered at the hands of these tribal chieftains but they see them as a will of god and will patiently listen to us and wont disagree or argue out of respect but will still submit to their sardars.

we had to move out of Baluchistan due to this mentality sir, our forefathers settled there over 500 years ago but for some people we were not Baloch enough and we had to seek refuge in the much despited Punjab which is cursed as a fasion by all racist provinces and even punjabis seem to be cheering for these terrorists who wont spare a second thought to march them out of the bus and will execute them at the road side.

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this time stamp talk is relevant. these terrorists have sympathy among our people across the nation. at one point Bin Laden had more arroval rating than our politicians, people like Red Mosque Mullah and the wife of an Al Qaeda operative Dr Afiya are revered as saints by people among us who support them.


@Goenitz
resoect your commentary, just sharing my PoV..

I have written this many times on this forum. as we write these posts. there are people in Pakisan who are giving refuge to these terrorists to plan their next attacks.

 

[Goenitz]

we had to move out of Baluchistan due to this mentality sir, our forefathers settled there over 500 years ago but for some people we were not Baloch enough and we had to seek refuge in the much despited Punjab which is cursed as a fasion by all racist provinces and even punjabis seem to be cheering for these terrorists who wont spare a second thought to march them out of the bus and will execute them at the road side.

Same here. My entire maternal family has moved despite my nana abu's mother being a pure Pashtun from Chaman. I was born in Zhob. My mamu was in Gulistan and my mom in Muslim Bagh.

I have written this many times on this forum. as we write these posts. there are people in Pakisan who are giving refuge to these terrorists to plan their next attacks.

100% it would be. I have stated that locals are with BLA as they hate army/center/punjabis, not just bcz they love BLA.

 

[Lulldapull]

which govt Japan/UK?
I am still not a national, but by just paying council tax, I get garbage collection and cheap school education with free meals. That just takes away the main burden of expenditure. Not to mention freedom of job, expression and the right to live.

Oh bhai what have me n you got from the GOP based on our ethnicity? Had you lived in Pakistan, I'm saying.......

Lhunn mila hae mujhay! Just like everybody else here no?

Thats da point!

 

[Goenitz]

Oh bhai what have me n you got from the GOP based on our ethnicity? Had you lived in Pakistan, I'm saying.......

Lhunn mila hae mujhay! Just like everybody else here no?

Thats da point!

Every country has one dominant ethnicity or race. You may consider it Punjabi privilege. It was easy for Urdu speakers to get high-end jobs in E. Pak, and easier to get recruited into civil/military/defence services till today.
If our representation in parliament, govt offices, etc., is greater than others', then we will for sure get whatever benefits are available first.
What more do you want?

 

[M. Sarmad]

my comment was a sign of resgination. trust me we have tried it. we had people working for us who had suffered at the hands of these tribal chieftains but they see them as a will of god and will patiently listen to us and wont disagree or argue out of respect but will still submit to their sardars.

we had to move out of Baluchistan due to this mentality sir, our forefathers settled there over 500 years ago but for some people we were not Baloch enough and we had to seek refuge in the much despited Punjab which is cursed as a fasion by all racist provinces and even punjabis seem to be cheering for these terrorists who wont spare a second thought to march them out of the bus and will execute them at the road side.

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this time stamp talk is relevant. these terrorists have sympathy among our people across the nation. at one point Bin Laden had more arroval rating than our politicians, people like Red Mosque Mullah and the wife of an Al Qaeda operative Dr Afiya are revered as saints by people among us who support them.


@Goenitz
resoect your commentary, just sharing my PoV..

I have written this many times on this forum. as we write these posts. there are people in Pakisan who are giving refuge to these terrorists to plan their next attacks.

I don't dismiss your experiences, but you are using them to explain away a much larger problem.......

One major reason this debate goes nowhere is that people (just as you are doing) keep collapsing "BLA," "separatists," "sardars","terrorist sympathizers" and "Baloch" into a single category..... There are millions of Baloch... Treating them as interchangeable with a few thousand militants/terrorists is exactly the kind of thinking that deepens alienation rather than reducing it....

You keep describing the symptoms.... I am talking about the disease.... BLA is a security problem.... Alienation is a legitimacy problem.... One can be fought with force.... the other cannot.....You can fight terrorism and still acknowledge a legitimacy crisis.... The two are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I don't dismiss your experiences, but you are using them to explain away a much larger problem.......

One major reason this debate goes nowhere is that people (just as you are doing) keep collapsing "BLA," "separatists," "sardars","terrorist sympathizers" and "Baloch" into a single category..... There are millions of Baloch... Treating them as interchangeable with a few thousand militants/terrorists is exactly the kind of thinking that deepens alienation rather than reducing it....

You keep describing the symptoms.... I am talking about the disease.... BLA is a security problem.... Alienation is a legitimacy problem.... One can be fought with force.... the other cannot.....You can fight terrorism and still acknowledge a legitimacy crisis.... The two are not mutually exclusive.

agreed. however I am pointing at the verbal hostility and protests that have morphed into violence and hatred. not all are violent for sure and dont support BLA directly.
but there are those who do provide financial support to the BLA. not all funding is foreign. militancy cant sustain itself without wider public support.

re hatred and propensity to violence take the example of Pashton tribes around Parachinar participate in the culling of the Bangash and Turi Shia tribes even without being part of TTP. back in the days on the old forum people shared videos of entire village participating in the execution of passangers by the roadside in Kohistan area by checking the ID cards of the passangers. maybe its only BLA terrorists (not ordinary Baloch from Lasbela) who single out Punjabi passangers and execute them but these terrorists do get refuge among the population.

 

[Rajput_Pakistani]

I don't dismiss your experiences, but you are using them to explain away a much larger problem.......

One major reason this debate goes nowhere is that people (just as you are doing) keep collapsing "BLA," "separatists," "sardars","terrorist sympathizers" and "Baloch" into a single category..... There are millions of Baloch... Treating them as interchangeable with a few thousand militants/terrorists is exactly the kind of thinking that deepens alienation rather than reducing it....

You keep describing the symptoms.... I am talking about the disease.... BLA is a security problem.... Alienation is a legitimacy problem.... One can be fought with force.... the other cannot.....You can fight terrorism and still acknowledge a legitimacy crisis.... The two are not mutually exclusive.

Your point is just the scenario where one is debating "which one first? Chicken or Egg?

The problem is that when a large chunk of population is not tolerant enough and support the killing of engineers, laborer, teachers who are there to build something tangible for them then what is the point?

How to download development and doodh shehd ki nehrain in Balochistan?
If an investor from Karachi or Lahore wants to setup some industry in Balochistan because there is some f***king reservoir nearby can he do that?

You were talking about symptoms and disease, you know what why these demonstrations and dharna happened in Ziarat after the martyrdom of policemen?

The answer is shameful.. because these were their own ethnicity. Pashtuns from their own tribes. For them they are angry towards state and doing dharna and what not?

Have you heard of any protest, even slightest condemnations from this population or any all parties conference or Mengal and Co. when Punjabis are getting murdered in dozens?

 

[Goenitz]

How to download development and doodh shehd ki nehrain in Balochistan?
If an investor from Karachi or Lahore wants to setup some industry in Balochistan because there is some f***king reservoir nearby can he do that?

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This Mengal, he became billionaire in Pakistan but openly support BLA. State allow bastards like him to roam openly and misled baloch youth, give them false hope of independent Balochistan. You will have to take care of terror sympathizers who roam freely, not just terrorists in mountains.

if you start supporting Mengal, then that Bugti will be anti-military and pro-BLA.
The thing is, we exploit tribal enmity for our benefit. We never focused on people but on tribal sardars (colonial policy continuation).
The locals only feel safe under their tribe...

• Goenitz

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The answer is shameful.. because these were their own ethnicity. Pashtuns from their own tribes. For them they are angry towards state and doing dharna and what not?

So? Don't people have differences here in Punjab in politics? Or in the chaos of 47, didn't jutt kill jutts? Baluchistan is turned into a hell, and in hell, these things will happen.

Have you heard of any protest, even slightest condemnations from this population or any all parties conference or Mengal and Co. when Punjabis are getting murdered in dozens?

When did we get authentic news from Baluchistan? anyway.
Also, did we protest for AJ Kashmiris (no news coverage, Khawaja even denounced their Kashmiri), or Pashtuns (Damadola madrassah or daily quadcopter drone strike), or Parachinaris (entire village was sieged in tribal conflict), Bengalis, etc.
How vocal are you for these policemen?

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[Lulldapull]

Every country has one dominant ethnicity or race. You may consider it Punjabi privilege. It was easy for Urdu speakers to get high-end jobs in E. Pak, and easier to get recruited into civil/military/defence services till today.
If our representation in parliament, govt offices, etc., is greater than others', then we will for sure get whatever benefits are available first.
What more do you want?

Oh bhai, neither me nor you nor any mofo here on this forum has gotten jack shit from the GOP no?

What ethnicity?

what benefits?

Lhunn mila hae hum sub ko other than a swift kick on de ass!

Even in da US the Iranis are not considered a minority and don't qualify for any minority loans nor benefits.

You go apply for minority business loan in da US as an Irani turani, they'd show you da door real quick! saying k ager aap ko loan diya then they gotta give it to the Greeks n Italiands too no?

Haan Hendu/ Sikh ko milta hae minority business loan. Cuz theys truly are colluddzzz......