Bangladesh Ordnance Factory (BOF) updates

[Michael Corleone]

AK-15?

ok i am confused AK12 is the one with issue right? AK 15 should be fine with the 7.62 mm rounds right? i don't know much about rifles but I thought its a well established design.

 

[Destranator]

Is there any source to this? Haven't heard anything about rail being unstable.

Watch the discussion on the receiver cover assembly (impacting "zeroing" of optics on the rail) from 4:55:

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Same issue also discussed here:

The Unknown History of Russian AK-12 Kalashnikov Rifle: Part 2

In the second part of AK-12 history, we'll talk about the second and third prototypes. I was personally involved in the trials and testing of those guns.

www.thefirearmblog.com

Jump to 3:14 on this video to the discussion on an unstable front hand guard which in turn impacts the rail on top.

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You can also find reddit discussions on this topic amongst gun enthusiasts.

 

[Destranator]

ok i am confused AK12 is the one with issue right? AK 15 should be fine with the 7.62 mm rounds right? i don't know much about rifles but I thought its a well established design.

Ak-15 is basically Ak-12 but chambering 7.62x39mm. Same design so same problems.
The rifle has been in development for a while but struggling to "establish" itself.
It will likely undergo further redesign (or get dumped for another rifle by Russian Army) based on the Ukraine experience.

Bangladesh should pick a better rifle.
ARX160 is a decent contender (see my previous post).
Alternatively, if BA can muster up the courage to standardise 5.56x45 mm for the infantry, it would open up many options.

 

[Destranator]

reforms? no we need a purge starting with gen. wakar

Yup, I was keen on giving Wakar and crew a second chance but I was mistaken. A purge is needed.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Ak-15 is basically Ak-12 but chambering 7.62x39mm. Same design so same problems.
The rifle has been in development for a while but struggling to "establish" itself.
It will likely undergo further redesign (or get dumped for another rifle by Russian Army) based on the Ukraine experience.

Bangladesh should pick a better rifle.
ARX160 is a decent contender (see my previous post).
Alternatively, if BA can muster up the courage to standardise 5.56x45 mm for the infantry, it would open up many options.

based on common sense i would agree with the fact that 5.56 is a better investment than 7.62... why invest in a new rifle when you're going to keep dealing with the deficiencies of the 7.62...

 

[Michael Corleone]

Since BA is obsessed with keeping 7.62x39mm standard issue and too lazy/incompetent to standardise more accurate and lighter rounds like the rest of the world, they should seriously consider the Beretta ARX160 series as the the successor for BD-08, Type 56 SMG, and G3.

This is a very potent, modular rifle that can chamber 7.62x39mm and 5.56x45mm NATO.
It is fully polymer, has low recoil, supports flexible left hand/right hand charging, mag release and casing ejection, stable piccatiny rail, foldable telescoping stock (variable length), has a compact version for CQB/special operations (perfect for 46 Bde, 1st Parra Cdo) amongst various other quality features:

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In terms of ToT, BA might have to reach some form of compromise with Beretta - perhaps buy 20-30,000 complete units (so that Beretta can make money) and then ongoing licenced production at BOF.

given how careless bangladeshis can be... i dont think a polymer based rifle would fair well.. what do you think?

 

[Destranator]

given how careless bangladeshis can be... i dont think a polymer based rifle would fair well.. what do you think?

It would make sense to stick to low maintenance AK-pattern rifles if we did not have a large regular army and instead relied upon conscripts or militia for our defence - but the fact is we do not.

Despite severe lack of resources, the BD tax payers maintain a 10-division strong regular army with full time soldiers. It is not too much to expect our soldiers to maintain their rifles well.

We even have a 3-star general-led training and doctrine command (referring to ARTDOC) whose job is to continually research and upgrade our warfare training and tactics.

Instead of wasting time, money and effort in stealing money, running non-military organisations, spying on/harassing/torturing/killing members of the public, resources should be diverted towards modernisation, streamlining and integration of the three forces as top priority.

We need to pick rifles that offer optimal performance on the battlefield rather thsn worry about how an "idiot soldier" would handle it. Our soldiers are not dumb - they are just not trained well enough to 21st century standards. Most soldiers are Gens Y & Z and carry smart phones - they can pick up on modern technologies quite quickly.

Polymer rifles are light weight meaning easier to aim and manuever while reducing the overall weight of equipment soldiers carry.
Polymers are also more resistant to environmental threats such as heat.
They are also cheaper to mass-produce (ToT is a must).
A soldier who moves and shoots better than the enemy is unstoppable.

A couple of billion dollars is enough to completely transform Infantryman rifle systems (rifles, accessories, ToT, etc.).

 

[Destranator]

based on common sense i would agree with the fact that 5.56 is a better investment than 7.62... why invest in a new rifle when you're going to keep dealing with the deficiencies of the 7.62...

7.62 mm calibre guns can still stay as Designated Marksman rifles, squad LMG's, "battle rifles" for long distance firing (7.62 mm retains accuracy and stopping power better at distances over 300 yards) but there is no need for them in the regular assault rifle role, where shorter-distance accuracy (300 yards or closer) and mobility (weight of ammo) is more important hence better served by 5.56×45mm NATO.

 

[Destranator]

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[Strider]

Whichever assault rifle we select, it should be based on competitive tender. Products offered by respective manufacturers must be subject to rigorous testing in Bangladeshi environment based on key parameters.

I asked Grok as to what to look for when a military selects a standard assault rifle? Below are the results.

1. Reliability and Durability
Field Performance: The rifle must function in extreme conditions—mud, sand, water, heat, cold, and humidity. Testing often simulates combat environments (e.g., the AK-47’s resilience in Soviet trials).

i) Longevity: Components should withstand tens of thousands of rounds without failure. Chrome-lined barrels and robust receivers (steel or reinforced polymer) are critical.

ii) Maintenance: Easy field-stripping and minimal upkeep reduce downtime. The AK’s simplicity contrasts with the M16’s need for regular cleaning.

2. Combat Effectiveness
Lethality: The cartridge must balance penetration, range, and terminal ballistics. Intermediate rounds (e.g., 5.56×45mm, 6.8 SPC) offer controllable recoil with sufficient stopping power up to 300–500 meters.

i) Fire Modes: Selective fire (semi-auto and full-auto or burst) ensures versatility—suppressive fire vs. precision shots.

ii) Accuracy: Consistent grouping at combat ranges (e.g., 4 MOA or better at 300 meters) is essential, though hyper-accuracy may be secondary to reliability.

3. Ergonomics and Handling
Weight: Lighter rifles (6–8 lbs) reduce soldier fatigue, especially on long patrols. The M4’s 7.5-lb loaded weight is a benchmark.

i) Controls: Intuitive placement of safety, mag release, and charging handle (ambidextrous preferred) speeds up operation under stress.

ii) Modularity: Rails (e.g., Picatinny) for optics, grips, and lights adapt the rifle to night ops, urban combat, or special forces use.

4. Logistics and Cost
Ammunition Availability: Compatibility with NATO (5.56×45mm, 7.62×51mm) or existing stockpiles simplifies supply chains. Non-standard rounds (e.g., 6.8mm Remington) may strain logistics.

i) Unit Cost: Affordable production and maintenance matter. The AK-47’s low cost (hundreds of dollars per unit) vs. the M4’s higher price (≈$1,000+) influences mass adoption.

ii) Interoperability: Parts commonality with allies’ systems (e.g., NATO STANAG magazines) aids joint operations.

5. Adaptability to Mission Profiles
i) Terrain and Climate: Rifles for desert (e.g., sand-resistant designs) differ from those for jungles (e.g., corrosion-resistant finishes).

ii) Urban vs. Open Field: Shorter barrels (e.g., 14.5” on M4) suit close-quarters, while longer barrels (e.g., 20” on M16) favor open terrain.

iii) Specialization: Compatibility with suppressors, grenade launchers, or bayonets may be required.

6. Training and Soldier Familiarity
i) Ease of Use: Simple operation reduces training time. The AR-15 platform’s widespread use leverages muscle memory for recruits.

ii) Manual of Arms: Consistency with prior systems (e.g., transitioning from M16 to M4) minimizes retraining costs.

7. Testing and Feedback
i) Trials Data: Real-world stress tests (e.g., mud submersion, drop tests) reveal failure rates. The U.S. Army’s 1960s M16 issues (jamming) vs. the AK’s proven record shaped adoption debates.

ii) Soldier Input: Troops’ hands-on experience during evaluations (e.g., XM7 trials in 2022) ensures practical suitability.

8. Political and Industrial Factors
i) Domestic Production: Preference for in-country manufacturing (e.g., Beretta AR70/90 for Italy) boosts jobs and autonomy.

ii) Alliances: Adopting an ally’s rifle (e.g., NATO’s push for 5.56mm) strengthens coalitions but may compromise local needs.

Historical Examples
- M16 (U.S.): Chosen for lightweight 5.56mm, modularity, and NATO compatibility, despite early reliability woes fixed later.

- AK-47/AKM (Soviet Union): Selected for ruggedness, low cost, and mass production, prioritizing reliability over precision.

- FN SCAR (Special Forces): Picked for adaptability and durability, reflecting elite units’ needs over standard infantry.

Modern Trends
Recent programs (e.g., U.S. Next Generation Squad Weapon, 2022) emphasize:
Enhanced Calibers: 6.8mm rounds for better armor penetration.

Smart Optics: Integrated fire control systems for accuracy.

Polymer Use: Lighter, corrosion-resistant materials.

Bottom Line
A military needs a rifle that’s reliable first, effective second, and sustainable third—tailored to its budget, threats, and operational theaters.

 

[Destranator]

Whichever assault rifle we select, it should be based on competitive tender. Products offered by respective manufacturers must be subject to rigorous testing in Bangladeshi environment based on key parameters.

 

[Michael Corleone]

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@Destranator maybe we are judging ak 12 a bit too harshly. Found that the ones being reviewed in US aren't exactly upto date or factory spec.

 

[Afif]

There is some good news. Have you guys read it? @LeonBlack08 @AbuShalehRumi

 

[AbuShalehRumi]

There is some good news. Have you guys read it? @LeonBlack08 @AbuShalehRumi

Im out of touch these days. Medical emergencies...
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Share some updates...

 

[Fatman17]

A dedicated thread on arms, ammunition and military equipment manufactured in Bangladesh Ordnance Factory (BOF)
Current Factories -

Small Arms Factory​

1. Bangladesh Ordnance Factories (BOF) was formally inaugurated on 06 April 1970 to produce 7.62 mm semi Automatic Rifle T-56. Till 2006, BOF produced very high quality rifle which are presently used by Bangladesh Army, Navy, Air Force and also by Para-Military and auxiliary forces like Border Guards of Bangladesh (BGB), Coast Guards, Bangladesh Police etc. To keep pace with modern technology, BOF took a unique initiative to implement an upgradation project to produce 7.62 mm Automatic Assault Rifle BD-08. Presently, Bangladesh Ordnance Factories (BOF) is producing more than 10,000 Rifle/Year maintaining very high standard and keen accuracy.

2. Followings are the available shops/facilities dedicatedly involved in Rifle production:

1. Rifle Machine Shop-1.
2. Rifle Machine Shop-2.
3. Heat and Surface Treatment Shop.
4. Induction Furnace Plant.
5. Forging Shop.
6. Wood Work Shop.
7. Works Inspection.
8. Rifle Proof Range.

3. Presently BOF produces following Ammunitions:

1. 7.62 39 mm Ball, Blank, Tracer, API Ammo for Rifle, SMG, LMG.
2. 7.62 54 mm Ball, Blank & API Ammo for HMG.
3. 7.62 51mm Ball & Blank Ammunition for G-3 Rifle.

4. BOF Small Arms Ammunition Factory consists of the following major production shops:

1. Case and Bullet Shop (FX-2 &3).
2. Ammunition Box & Clip manufacturing Shop.
3. Loading and Packing Shop.
4. Explosive Shop.

Small Arms Ammunition Factory

1. The production of small arms ammunition commenced after the liberation war to a limited scale and in 1973-74, Bangladesh Ordnance Factories (BOF) produced 5,77,440 rounds Ball Ammunition for Small Arms. At that time BOF imported primer cap from abroad and later assembled these with BOF produced cartridge and bullet. BOF attained full capability to produce primer cap in 1981 and there by achieved remarkable success to attain self reliance in production of Small Arms Ammunition within the country.

2. Considering the gradual increasing demand of Bangladesh Armed Forces, BOF initiated production of Tracer Cartridge of Type-53 & 56 in 1982-83 FY utilizing existing machineries, technical facilities and experience of the skilled technicians. BOF also started 7.62×51 mm NATO Ball ammunition and 7.62 mm Blank Cartridge (Type-53 & 56) production since 1995-96.

3. Presently, BOF is producing various types of small arms ammunition very efficiently at a large scale. As a part of modernization and expansion of small arms ammunition production, a new project termed as CB-10 Project has been implemented successfully in 2012. This project enabled BOF to produce approximately 90 million Small Arms Ammunition in total per year and thereby helped to attain self reliance in production of Small Arms Ammunition.

4. Major branches of this factory are as follows:
a. Grenade Factory.
b. Fuze Assembly Factory.
c. High Calibre Ammunition Factory.

High Calibre Ammunition Factory​

1. This factory consists of two major factories which produce Hand Grenade Arges 84 BD and and High Calibre Ammunition. Production of TNT slab is a remarkable success of Bangladesh Ordnance Factories (BOF) using existing technology and experiences of the skilled technicians.

2. Major branches of this factory are as follows:

a. Grenade Factory.
b. Fuze Assembly Factory.
c. High Calibre Ammunition Factory.

Tools Manufacturing Factory​

1. Tools & Clothing Group consists of three shops, namely Tools Manufacturing Shop, Central Tools Godown and Inspection & Clothing Shop. Main function of this group is to manufacture and supply of Tools, Gauges, Jigs, Die-Punch and Fixtures etc for the production of rifles, ammunition and grenade.


2. Besides these, this factory manufactures hand gloves, lab-coat & maintenance clothing items as per the demand of BOF. At present this factory is capable of providing 70% of the required tools, die, punches, jigs, fixtures and gauges for various production lines.

Impressive