BrahMos: Greek Experts Pitch Indo-Russian Supersonic Cruise Missile To Checkmate S-400 Armed Turkey

[kaku]

What a joke thread this has become.

If India supplies weapons to a country A which has enmity with country B then, it doesn’t mean that country B and India have become enemies and will fight a war tomorrow.

Turkey has supplied weapons to Paksiatn. US has supplied weapons to both India and Paksiatn. Paksiatn has supplied ammunitions to Ukraine but still gets engines for JF from Russia.

If Greece wants Indian weapons, then it is a commercial deal. How effectively the weapon is employed is not Indian problem. Greeks have to choose and buy stuff that meets their game plan.

Second issue is the possibility of a war between Greece and Turkey. Both are NATO members and the powers that be wouldn’t allow a conflict between them.

Amount of noise that Brahmos would do on launch has been bettered by the noise by some members here, in favour and against this poor missile. Leave it alone please.

Its a waste of time to reply those.

They have forgotten India already is weaponizing HSTDV.

 

[Pingle]

Why are you converting this thread into a Turkish brochure thread. This is a Brahmos brochure thread.

Actually there is no harm bro if its discussed professionally and intellectually..... we can discuss weaknesses of Brahmos and S400 and their strengths too..... it will be good discussion if discussed with respect....

 

[maithil]

150 Brahmos ... Excellent deterrent.

 

[r3alist]

What a joke thread this has become.

If India supplies weapons to a country A which has enmity with country B then, it doesn’t mean that country B and India have become enemies and will fight a war tomorrow.

Turkey has supplied weapons to Paksiatn. US has supplied weapons to both India and Paksiatn. Paksiatn has supplied ammunitions to Ukraine but still gets engines for JF from Russia.

If Greece wants Indian weapons, then it is a commercial deal. How effectively the weapon is employed is not Indian problem. Greeks have to choose and buy stuff that meets their game plan.

Second issue is the possibility of a war between Greece and Turkey. Both are NATO members and the powers that be wouldn’t allow a conflict between them.

Amount of noise that Brahmos would do on launch has been bettered by the noise by some members here, in favour and against this poor missile. Leave it alone please.

This is not from the sound of it a banal discussion around military sales between countries, as you are trying to portray.


it's india who has decided to poke turkey by becoming involved in turkeys backyard in a Very substantive way.

Ofcourse you will say it's only returning the favour, but turkey may actually be more pro actively incentivised to repay India for it's efforts, more than usual.

 

[DevendraRajput]

150 Brahmos ... Excellent deterrent.

Indeed! Is Greece a member of MTCR?

 

[Vikramaditya1]

Pointless. Brahmos has Russian components and Brahmos is an Indo Russian colab. You think Greece is gonna buy a Russian weapon to counter another Russian weapon? Why would Russians even allow the sale of weapon to them?

 

[Vikramaditya1]

What a troll team who lacks brain cells in their heads
Nobody says thar BRAHMOS is not a formidable weapon

but Turkiye has 20+ diferent Missiles to turn Greek Navy into scrap of metal in A day

better go and worry for Greece
Turkish Navy can match with BRAHMOS ...

but Greek Navy never can match with great Turkish fire power which is the best in NATO after USA

I have a doubt though? When Article 5 is invoked, which side is going to get kicked out from the NATO and which side is getting support from NATO?

 

[Nilgiri]

@MMM-E what's your point of view in this development that maybe Greece will get Brahmos from India?

Best not tag him next time please. Look at flamewar it created.

 

[Nilgiri]

Stick to the topic only. No more off topic posts. No more flamewarring.

These will get warning points from this point on.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

After Zircon, why the Brahmos is considered as the most dangerous Anti Ship missile in the world? It's not the speed of Mach 3.5, it's not even the fact that it has enough kinetic energy to literally break a destroyer sized ship in half during tests, it's not even the fact that it has an accuracy of 1 meters during testing and as if all this was not enough, it's not even the fact that it has 3 redundant systems of every single electronic part inside it, which means that even if it's jammed or hit by an EMP or 2, it can still keep going as if nothing happened. No. The main reason that Brahmos is so respected and feared is because it has the ability to perform 3 dimensional S Maneuvers in the terminal phase at Mach 3.5 which makes CIWS systems useless and most Missile defence systems very very difficult to counter it. A missile that flies straight is easy to counter with current technology. But a missile like Brahmos that moves randomly in a Zig Zag manner is very difficult to stop especially when it moves at Mach 3.5
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Lol every weapon you have is out of this universe capability, that's includes BRAHMOUSE also, show the clips and videos of BRAHMOUSE terminal S shape evasive maneuvering, I didn't find a single clip of that specific maneuver

You guys always have nonsense superiority egos against rest of the world, it can be intercept at mid phase with ease because of its big RCS and have extremely big IR signature

 

[DDG-80]

it can be intercept at mid phase with ease because of its big RCS and have extremely big IR signature

According to Oleh Zhdanov, it is very difficult to shoot down the Russian “Onyx” missile. Its main feature is that it is supersonic and flies over a short distance.

"On such a short distance at such a high speed, you can see it, but shooting it down is impossible. It takes just minutes for it to reach its maximum range," he explained.

Russia hit Odesa with "Onyx": why these missiles cannot be shot down and where they can reach

The missile reaches its target so quickly that there's no time to announce the alarm.

tsn.ua

Yuriy Inhat, spokesperson for the Ukrainian Air Force, said the Onyx missiles presented a new challenge.

“It is difficult to fight with such missiles,” he told Ukrainian media, noting that they reach speeds of around 2,000mph and can fly as low as 10 metres off the ground, evading radar.

Miltary analysts believe even the most advanced air defence systems may not be foolproof against Onyx missiles.

“The difficulty is that you need to be able to detect them and there is only a small window of opportunity to do so given the low altitudes they fly at,” said Dr Marina Miron of the Defence Studies Department at King’s College London.

Onyx missiles can also “evade air defences by performing effective manoeuvres”, she added.

Russia launching night raids with supersonic Onyx missiles that Ukraine can't shoot down

A spokesperson for Ukraine's air force said the missiles can reach 2,000mph and fly just 10 metres off the ground

inews.co.uk

 

[Developereo]

According to Oleh Zhdanov, it is very difficult to shoot down the Russian “Onyx” missile. Its main feature is that it is supersonic and flies over a short distance.

This subject was debated on the old forum.

You cannot evade the laws of physics. The very thing which is its strength (speed) is also its weakness: high IR and low manoeuvrability.

 

[Pingle]

Other than engine, there is anything left in BrahMos, that is ruski? If its a export ver of P-800 onyx as you claim.

Imagine if Brahmos was in Pakistani armed forces? And had evolved the way it has today in India? Then they would never talk the nonsense out of hate they talk today about Brahmos..... ignore them.....

 

[GatlingGun]

According to Oleh Zhdanov, it is very difficult to shoot down the Russian “Onyx” missile. Its main feature is that it is supersonic and flies over a short distance.

"On such a short distance at such a high speed, you can see it, but shooting it down is impossible. It takes just minutes for it to reach its maximum range," he explained.

Russia hit Odesa with "Onyx": why these missiles cannot be shot down and where they can reach

The missile reaches its target so quickly that there's no time to announce the alarm.

tsn.ua

Yuriy Inhat, spokesperson for the Ukrainian Air Force, said the Onyx missiles presented a new challenge.

“It is difficult to fight with such missiles,” he told Ukrainian media, noting that they reach speeds of around 2,000mph and can fly as low as 10 metres off the ground, evading radar.

Miltary analysts believe even the most advanced air defence systems may not be foolproof against Onyx missiles.

“The difficulty is that you need to be able to detect them and there is only a small window of opportunity to do so given the low altitudes they fly at,” said Dr Marina Miron of the Defence Studies Department at King’s College London.

Onyx missiles can also “evade air defences by performing effective manoeuvres”, she added.

Russia launching night raids with supersonic Onyx missiles that Ukraine can't shoot down

A spokesperson for Ukraine's air force said the missiles can reach 2,000mph and fly just 10 metres off the ground

inews.co.uk

Best investment so far. It's capable of sinking sub 1500T size corvette vessels with kinetic energy alone. And maybe bigger one of around 2500T with warhead.

Pakistanis consol themselves by saying that India is dependent on Russia for parts, but they don't know it's the part of 50-50 deal. We can replace 90% of components with indigenous ones but it will break the contract of WORKSHARE AGREEMENT.

 

[DDG-80]

Best investment so far. It's capable of sinking sub 1500T size corvette vessels with kinetic energy alone. And maybe bigger one of around 2500T with warhead.

P15A/B destroyers of Indian Navy carries 16 BrahMos missiles. Thats 48 tons of Anti-ship Firepower. In comparison ships of this size (8000 tons) carry 8 x Harpoons or 8 x Exocet. Thats just 6.2 tons of Anti-ship Firepower. BrahMos is bigger, heavier and WAAAY more capable than Exocet/Harpoon or any other similar subsonic cruise missile.