Breaking: Ex-ISI chief Faiz Hamid taken into custody by military: ISPR

[Oscar]

 

[nahtanbob]

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Nice horse and nice scenery

 

[Oscar]

I will call it by its name. This is no doubt a war against certain ethnic groups. Two nasty political parties from Punjab and Sindh and their cheerleader generals are waging a war against certain peoples.

We had BD. These people are now yearning for more.

 

[Jf Thunder]

For whom?

everyone

 

[Jamie]

As if current military and spy chiefs are any different?

There were two different groups of thought that formed with in the army post 2013. One (Faiz-bajwa and co group) believe intervention an utmost necessity in politics as a way forward. Khan just happened to really blindly comply with them for a free ride on their shoulders to fane and power.
The other group was the opposite, stressing non intervention until it was required for an utmost urgency.
Munir belongs to this group.

Now what we have seen the past year of army’s actions against PTI have just been a greater struggle between the retired Faiz giving out orders to PTI leaders and army.

Faiz would individually list names of serving army members to defame and throw dirt on to PTI . After having lost the chance to become chief himself he was consumed with revenge against the opposite group.

In 2022 during a core commanders conference a tipping point was reached. Where a majority of serving high ranking personnel showed disdain on Faiz openly thus changing the course. It ultimately led to Faiz being removed from being DG ISI.

Now you’re claim of the current bass being the same is wrong since they are of a totally different view.
Don’t take their ac

Faiz was working against Imran Khan’s govt already in 2019 - as per defense minister Khawaja Asif

So khan bending over backwards to appease him still for his own selfish gains can be forgotten? Just cause he was being used as the idiot pawn he was?

 

[Jamie]

What ! I thought gen bajwa was in Romania..

He is under house arrest. Not officially though.
Maybe in the coming future it will be made public if it is decided to take action against him aswell.
For now he is loosing his mind in his gigantic farmhouse. Albeit slowly

 

[Oscar]

He is under house arrest. Not officially though.
Maybe in the coming future it will be made public if it is decided to take action against him aswell.
For now he is loosing his mind in his gigantic farmhouse. Albeit slowly

In the most ignoble way - it’s not complete house arrest but even when he is allowed to move he generally encounters disdain even in silence.

That impact, does much more to a man than any beating or torture does. To go from being the most powerful in Pakistan to have every turn their backs on you when you walk into a room.

 

[alphapak]

Munira Mistry wants to use Faiz Hameed to nail Imran Khan.
Lets see if Faiz Hameed starts giving statements against IK.

 

[Jamie]

In the most ignoble way - it’s not complete house arrest but even when he is allowed to move he generally encounters disdain even in silence.

That impact, does much more to a man than any beating or torture does. To go from being the most powerful in Pakistan to have every turn their backs on you when you walk into a room.

Well… True
And seeing his side of the group of thought being rooted out of the army must also make him feel guilty. Many served loyally under him. To see their current state and the inability to do something is more torturous.

 

[Forsvaret]

So khan bending over backwards to appease him still for his own selfish gains can be forgotten? Just cause he was being used as the idiot pawn he was?

Imran Khan was being used as a pawn and he was also being selfish?

 

[Forsvaret]

Maybe in the coming future it will be made public if it is decided to take action against him aswell.

Who will take action against current ruling military and spy chiefs?

 

[Oscar]

Imran Khan was being used as a pawn and he was also being selfish?

Both can exist - yes.

In IK’s mind he saw the golden ticket as a chance to gain his “divine purpose” and get PTI into power while in reality Bajwa and Co wanted to use him to create their vision of a hybrid system.

Unfortunately, with cultism ingrained in Pakistani mentality for Messiahs - this is difficult to comprehend that “Sab saalay chor hain siwaye Quaid e Azam ke”

 

[Forsvaret]

To go from being the most powerful in Pakistan to have every turn their backs on you when you walk into a room.

Isn’t it the ultimate fate of every ruling army chief - even the current one?

 

[Forsvaret]

Unfortunately, with cultism ingrained in Pakistani mentality for Messiahs - this is difficult to comprehend that “Sab saalay chor hain siwaye Quaid e Azam ke”

Yeah - ALL army and spy chiefs were patriots minus Bajwa and Faiz. Is it what you wanted to say?

 

[Oscar]

Isn’t it the ultimate fate of every ruling army chief - even the current one?

No
Certain ones still get their respect - and even if they are under “house arrest” as Gen K is they don’t get dismissed everywhere.

In Bs case he is literally ignored by everyone except a few in a party simply due to IKs populist appeal.