BREAKING - Turkish Airforce F16 crashes - Pilot Safe
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Foinikas
Elite Member
You need to have a reality check.
>This conversation started when you praised low-passes,while other members wisely said it's unnecessary risk and unprofessional.
>You refused to accept it and went on bragging about the TuAF.
>I pointed out how Turkish pilots have a culture of flying recklessly and doing dangerous maneuvers that are strictly unprofessional. I also pointed out how pilots have died on both sides because of this. I presented a video with HAF pilots talking about it during an interception incident.
>You demanded the thread to be left open and you started talking about Greek pilots crashing in the sea
>I showed you that Turkish pilots also crash in the Aegean. I also pointed out that Turkey,like any Air Force,has training losses as well.
>You rushed to ask the thread be closed and insisted only one Turk crashed in the sea.
>I'm showing you information again,you deny it.
At some point you need to come out of this shell of denial. Turks crash,Greeks crash,but the problem is with the Turkish culture of playing Top Gun during dogfights and demonstrations. Such cowboy attitude isn't responsible conduct and often ends with a crashed aircraft and the pilot either dead or retired.
>This conversation started when you praised low-passes,while other members wisely said it's unnecessary risk and unprofessional.
>You refused to accept it and went on bragging about the TuAF.
>I pointed out how Turkish pilots have a culture of flying recklessly and doing dangerous maneuvers that are strictly unprofessional. I also pointed out how pilots have died on both sides because of this. I presented a video with HAF pilots talking about it during an interception incident.
>You demanded the thread to be left open and you started talking about Greek pilots crashing in the sea
>I showed you that Turkish pilots also crash in the Aegean. I also pointed out that Turkey,like any Air Force,has training losses as well.
>You rushed to ask the thread be closed and insisted only one Turk crashed in the sea.
>I'm showing you information again,you deny it.
At some point you need to come out of this shell of denial. Turks crash,Greeks crash,but the problem is with the Turkish culture of playing Top Gun during dogfights and demonstrations. Such cowboy attitude isn't responsible conduct and often ends with a crashed aircraft and the pilot either dead or retired.
MMM-E
Elite Member
He is still showing the Turkish F-16 that crashed due to a technical malfunction
( a fuel pump failure ) and Turkish Pilot survived
I didn't mention the 3 other Greek Pilots that fell due to other malfunctions and crashed into the sea .. and all 3 Pilots survived
now , He is showing also an air-to-air missile launch on an unarmed Turkish F-16D during training flight, a completely different event that happened in 1996 .. ( that was not an accident )
and in 2016 , Greek Pilot crashed into the Turkish F-16 with stupid maneuver
Greek Pilot died ,, Turkish Pilot survived
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There have been no incidents where Turkish F-16 pilots made foolish maneuvers and crashed into the sea during dogfight
on the other hand , 3 Greek Pilots crashed into the sea and died while maneuvering during doghfights with the Turkish F-16s
1992 (Lt. Nikolaos Sialmas) : The investigation indicated the crash happened because the Greek pilot was unable to pull out of a steep dive in time
2006 (Flt. Lt. Konstantinos Iliakis): Greek Pilot crashed into the Turkish F-16 and Greek Pilot died .. Turkish Pilot survived
2018 (Flt. Lt. Georgios Baltadoros): A Greek Mirage 2000-5 crashed near Skyros island while returning from an interception mission .. Greek Pilot died
( a fuel pump failure ) and Turkish Pilot survived
I didn't mention the 3 other Greek Pilots that fell due to other malfunctions and crashed into the sea .. and all 3 Pilots survived
now , He is showing also an air-to-air missile launch on an unarmed Turkish F-16D during training flight, a completely different event that happened in 1996 .. ( that was not an accident )
and in 2016 , Greek Pilot crashed into the Turkish F-16 with stupid maneuver
Greek Pilot died ,, Turkish Pilot survived
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There have been no incidents where Turkish F-16 pilots made foolish maneuvers and crashed into the sea during dogfight
on the other hand , 3 Greek Pilots crashed into the sea and died while maneuvering during doghfights with the Turkish F-16s
1992 (Lt. Nikolaos Sialmas) : The investigation indicated the crash happened because the Greek pilot was unable to pull out of a steep dive in time
2006 (Flt. Lt. Konstantinos Iliakis): Greek Pilot crashed into the Turkish F-16 and Greek Pilot died .. Turkish Pilot survived
2018 (Flt. Lt. Georgios Baltadoros): A Greek Mirage 2000-5 crashed near Skyros island while returning from an interception mission .. Greek Pilot died
Foinikas
Elite Member
Whose fault is it about Iliakis? Clearly about Iliakis? You mention Baltadoros but deny the incident of the 70s where one of the Turkish F-102 pilots panicked,became disoriented and flew at the opposite direction and as an outcome,when he turned around and rushed towards the Turkish mainland he ran out of fuel and crash-landed. On the sea,on the ground I don't know,but crash-landed. Lived or died I don't know for certain,but ran out of fuel and crashed.
Iliakis was killed because of Turkish pilot's irresponsible and reckless maneuver. That's what killed Iliakis. I even c/ped it in an earlier post,but as always you ignored it.
On this forum and the old one,you've been trying for years to portray the HAF as "inferior" and badly manned. Every single time I bring facts,you put the tape on repeating the same nonsense and when you can't deal with it,you just spam the same posts.
Because you can't handle the truth,the TuAF has lost jets to Cypriot AAA. That the TuAF has lost aircraft in engagements with the HAF,that the TuAF has lost aircraft even by Syrian AAs. That the TuAF wass weakened after Erdogan's purges that followed 2016's coup.
MMM-E
Elite Member
This Pilot doesnt know about safety regulations.
In the UK, our F-16 pilot flew just meter above the spectators
That pilot continued to fly at TURAF
I could show hundreds of videos of a Turkish F-16 pilot flying 10 meters .
F-16 Pilot has passed by People flying at an extreme low altitude at a speed of 1200 km/h
MMM-E
Elite Member
Turkish pilots are very confident in themselves; they don't hesitate to perform such dangerous maneuvers and even put their lives at risk
No need do it guys .... we need you and our F-16s
TURAF spends more than $3 million to train a F-16 Pilot
A few days ago , We lost an F-16 for nothing
It's a good thing we didn't lose our well trained F-16 Pilot.
No need do it guys .... we need you and our F-16s
TURAF spends more than $3 million to train a F-16 Pilot
A few days ago , We lost an F-16 for nothing
It's a good thing we didn't lose our well trained F-16 Pilot.
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