Can the US win a war with China? Shocking new simulation reveals what could happen if Taiwan is attacked

[j_hungary]

How can one release 1,000 drones at once? 1,000 aircraft attacked in batches. The People's Liberation Army's swarm AI drones have been in service for many years.
If Ukraine’s losses were not so great, it would not have abandoned its territory. The battle line cannot deceive people.

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If you attack in batch, then you are NOT attacking with 1000 aircraft, in batch of 10, you are attacking with 100 drone (Which is still alot) in reality, unless each drone can individually plot their own course and avoid each other, you can't have more than a pair of drone on any battlespace because you have 4 directions on top of a battle space, North, East, South and West, you need 1 way in and 1 way out, which mean at most you can criss-cross 2 pair of drones going at different direction to avoid collision, that mean if you have 1000 drone on a target, you are sending 500 attack with 2 drone each.

Battleline can't deceive, so the counter argument is also true and if Ukraine lose is so Great why Russia can't have a major breakthru? If Ukraine casualty is high, then who is exactly fighting the Russian? Lack of progress mean the Russian are either incapable or incompetant, especially so when Russian have majority on force number. So if Ukraine loses is high, by that logic Russian would and should already overwhelm Ukraine by now.

It wouldn't even need to be a military genius to see Ukraine is trading territories with time, at this rate, it will take about 25 years for Russia to control the entire Donbas Ukraine have land, what they don't have is time, if they can get a preferable deal by holding Russian troop at bay, then trading land with that time is not a bad idea to help them get what they want, they want NATO membership so they won't be attack again, and they can lose the entire Donbas if that is what they get and they WILL get NATO membership before losing the entire Donbas, they are effectively in NATO because NATO is not going to let Ukraine go back to Russia sphere of influence when they supplied EVERYTHING other than warship to them.

 

[j_hungary]

@Waz can you come take care of this guy @Han Patriot Told him not to quote me anymore yet he keeps doing it. And now it basically achieve harassment level.

I don't have time to deal with kid that don't know how to speak or express their idea in a civil way or can't take a hint. And now he is simply just trolling. He is acting like a crazy ex-girl friend who just wouldn't let go.....God help whoever he is dating or married to...........

 

[Beijingwalker]

How hard is it to understand, attacker's position is fixated. If you need to attack a target, you ARE going to converge on that target eventually, but defender can be anywhere, it does not even have to be on the line.

But why many in the west believe China would "attack" Taiwan with swarm drones?

China is menacing Taiwan with a drone swarm attack — and the US is playing catch-up

Taiwan and the US lack the capacity to battle a possible Chinese mass drone attack, say analysts.

www.businessinsider.com

‘Air-separation technology’: China claims new war drone can split and multiply

Once this new device reaches the target airspace it can split in the blink of an eye into two, three or even six smaller drones, depending on battle needs.

www.scmp.com

China unveils new aerial cluster drone for swarm attacks - Asia Times

Chinese scientists have developed a new type of war drone that can rapidly multiply midair, a tactical shock and awe phenomenon against potential

asiatimes.com

 

[MzdsFan]

Foot soldiers war where only China and Vietnam are good..... modern wars neither they have any experience nor they have ever fired even single artillery shell angrily.... most China is capable of showing some guts to fire water cannon against Philippines ships...... talk about today.....

The PLA artillery fought in the campaign MB84 and PLA started to try electronic warfare in Project Blue Sword-B. So it's wrong to say PLA Has no experience of modern war.

 

[MzdsFan]

America would beat China if it attacks Taiwan?

I agree answer is NO...... AMERICA will not BEAT CHINA....

Correct answer is.... if CHINA attacks TAIWAN then AMERICA will BEAT CHINA TO DEATH......

NEVER

 

[j_hungary]

But why many in the west believe China would "attack" Taiwan with swarm drones?

China is menacing Taiwan with a drone swarm attack — and the US is playing catch-up

Taiwan and the US lack the capacity to battle a possible Chinese mass drone attack, say analysts.

www.businessinsider.com

‘Air-separation technology’: China claims new war drone can split and multiply

Once this new device reaches the target airspace it can split in the blink of an eye into two, three or even six smaller drones, depending on battle needs.

www.scmp.com

China unveils new aerial cluster drone for swarm attacks - Asia Times

Chinese scientists have developed a new type of war drone that can rapidly multiply midair, a tactical shock and awe phenomenon against potential

asiatimes.com

I have a question for you?

Do you actually believe EVERYTHING you read on paper??

How many people believe China will attack Taiwan with drone swamp DID NOT answer even one question on how it is actually achievable to do it to begin with.

Let me make you a deal, if you show me a valid battle plan where China will overwhelm Taiwan defence using drone swamp and drone swamp only, I will not only shut up about it and issue you with an apologies and I will actually ask the management to transfer my title of Professional to you. How about that?? If such things is a possibility, there will be a battle plane somewhere written about it, so if this is possible, it exist, so you can just quote me that battleplan instead of what people believe.

A valid Battle Plan must include TTP, SOP, PIR and also SPF. If you can give me that, I swear I will shut up and told EVERYONE you are correct.

By the way the last two reference is talking about the same thing, in fact, the third reference actually quoting the second reference.

 

[Beijingwalker]

I have a question for you?

Do you actually believe EVERYTHING you read on paper??

No. Do you?

 

[j_hungary]

No. Do you?

I don't I analyse information myself.

I am asking you because you ask me why many people believe China can use Drone Swamp.

That is not answering my question on HOW you can use drone swamp when it does not fit into any ISTAR operational planning. You basically skipped I, S and R if you use drone swamp (Probably not R but I digress), and how can you compensate that? That's what I am asking. Not how many people believe China can drone swamp Taiwan into submission.

You can believe in anything does not mean it's true, I believe in Santa Claus and I believe I can have a date with a supermodel, that does not mean it's gonna happen.

 

[Beijingwalker]

You can believe in anything does not mean it's true, I believe in Santa Claus and I believe I can have a date with a supermodel, that does not mean it's gonna happen.

LOl, do you believe whatever I say or expect me to believe whatever you say? you are the last person I'll believe cause I always know the only thing you can do is coping and bullshitting.

 

[j_hungary]

LOl, do you believe whatever I say or expect me to believe whatever you say? you are the last person I'll believe cause I always know the only thing you can do is coping and bullshitting.

Dude, what I say you need to believe? I was asking a question. You either answer my question or you don't.

Or you believe that question is not valid? Again, how you can implement Drone Swarm in a battle space if it lack the ISTAR planning, you either answer that question by showing me how you can implement ISTAR planning in drone swarm or you can't. What there have to believe?

And telling me a bunch of people believe this does NOT answer that question I ask. I didn't ask you to believe this or that? You ask me why many people believe this is the case.

 

[BHAN85]

I dont know why here people talk like a China/USA war like something that it would happen in China coast.

China/USA war means world war, means ICBM flying to both continents.

Talking about that as only a naval war in China coast is stupid.

 

[Beijingwalker]

Dude, what I say you need to believe? I was asking a question. You either answer my question or you don't.

Or you believe that question is not valid? Again, how you can implement Drone Swarm in a battle space if it lack the ISTAR planning, you either answer that question by showing me how you can implement ISTAR planning in drone swarm or you can't. What there have to believe?

And telling me a bunch of people believe this does NOT answer that question I ask. I didn't ask you to believe this or that? You ask me why many people believe this is the case.

Lol, Taiwan soldiers can keep throwing stones at swarm drones

 

[j_hungary]

Lol, Taiwan soldiers can keep throwing stones at swarm drones

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Again, that's not answering my question.

and again, do you believe in everything paper said?

By the way, it IS a civilian drone as reported

'Humiliation': Footage of Taiwanese soldiers throwing rocks at drone posted on Chinese social media

Taiwan will begin deploying drone defence systems on its offshore islands after footage emerged of Taiwanese soldiers throwing stones at a Chinese drone that buzzed a guard post.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Beijingwalker]

 

[Beijingwalker]

and again, do you believe in everything paper said?

Do you think I believe eveything you say? the anwser is NOTHING.