Can the US win a war with China? Shocking new simulation reveals what could happen if Taiwan is attacked

[Beijingwalker]

 

[j_hungary]

Do you think I believe eveything you say? the anwser is NOTHING.

It's a civilian drone amagod



And again, I didn't ask whether you believe what I said, I ask how you can implement those drone in planning, so I guess that you CAN'T answer my question then?

 

[Beijingwalker]

China produces 80% of all the drones in the world, civilian drones can easily turn into military use, check out Ukraine war, most of them were originally Chinese civilian drones both sides purchased on Alibaba

 

[liuzhengdong]

If you attack in batch, then you are NOT attacking with 1000 aircraft, in batch of 10, you are attacking with 100 drone (Which is still alot) in reality, unless each drone can individually plot their own course and avoid each other, you can't have more than a pair of drone on any battlespace because you have 4 directions on top of a battle space, North, East, South and West, you need 1 way in and 1 way out, which mean at most you can criss-cross 2 pair of drones going at different direction to avoid collision, that mean if you have 1000 drone on a target, you are sending 500 attack with 2 drone each.

Battleline can't deceive, so the counter argument is also true and if Ukraine lose is so Great why Russia can't have a major breakthru? If Ukraine casualty is high, then who is exactly fighting the Russian? Lack of progress mean the Russian are either incapable or incompetant, especially so when Russian have majority on force number. So if Ukraine loses is high, by that logic Russian would and should already overwhelm Ukraine by now.

It wouldn't even need to be a military genius to see Ukraine is trading territories with time, at this rate, it will take about 25 years for Russia to control the entire Donbas Ukraine have land, what they don't have is time, if they can get a preferable deal by holding Russian troop at bay, then trading land with that time is not a bad idea to help them get what they want, they want NATO membership so they won't be attack again, and they can lose the entire Donbas if that is what they get and they WILL get NATO membership before losing the entire Donbas, they are effectively in NATO because NATO is not going to let Ukraine go back to Russia sphere of influence when they supplied EVERYTHING other than warship to them.

According to geolocation evidence collected by the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) in Washington, D.C., Russian troops occupied 4,168 square kilometers (1,609 square miles) of Ukrainian land in 2024. This will not take 20 years.

Ukraine was able to invade Russia because the Russian army in Kursk Oblast was understaffed and the main force of the Russian army was transferred back to Kursk Oblast, and the Ukrainian army's offensive stopped. Now the Ukrainian army is in a passive situation in Kursk Oblast.

If you go to YOUTUBE to watch more videos of Taiwan's military exercises, you will know that their tactics are still in the last century.

No matter how small Taiwan Island is, it has 1,200 kilometers. The total length of the five beaches where the million Allied troops landed in the Normandy Campaign in World War II was less than 50 kilometers.


300,000 troops plus 1 million drones and unmanned combat vehicles are enough to capture Taiwan. The Chinese Navy has 4 amphibious assault ships, 8 dock landing ships, more than 70 tank landing ships, hundreds of landing craft, hundreds of large roll-on/roll-off cargo ships, and thousands of civilian ships, which are enough to support the landing operations of a million troops.

China's intelligent system allows drones to independently plan their own routes and avoid each other.

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[Pingle]

The PLA artillery fought in the campaign MB84 and PLA started to try electronic warfare in Project Blue Sword-B. So it's wrong to say PLA Has no experience of modern war.

Will study on this and reply bro...,

 

[Pingle]

NEVER

We can have a detailed discussion

 

[Waz]

@Waz can you come take care of this guy @Han Patriot Told him not to quote me anymore yet he keeps doing it. And now it basically achieve harassment level.

I don't have time to deal with kid that don't know how to speak or express their idea in a civil way or can't take a hint. And now he is simply just trolling. He is acting like a crazy ex-girl friend who just wouldn't let go.....God help whoever he is dating or married to...........

Can you tell me where he has quoted you and he will get a thread ban. Warning was given....

 

[Han Patriot]

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Special landing barges that can directly connect to coastal roads. Can also connect to RORO ships, there is not even a need for landing beaches.

 

[j_hungary]

Can you tell me where he has quoted you and he will get a thread ban. Warning was given....

He quote me 5 times after your last post (All from my alert) and your post warned him at #384

Post #429

Hey Gary,

Try deconflicting this. Lolol


Video of the Day: Dragon drone show in China
YouTube · BYU Universe
Jul 4, 2023

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Post #414

Make sure your popcorn is not delivered in a pipeline mate. Lol
Post #396

Strategic think tank? If this is how Australia is getting advice, from someone who can't tell the difference between an imaging sat and a GPS, I fear for their future！ LOL

Post #394

hey Gary,

Talking about stupids, are

1) Imaging sats and GPS sats the same? You were talking so expertly on satellite movements, orbit bla bla copy pasting from site, so why not explain to us how they are the same satellite.

2) Care to explain to us why you said MSC/MAERSK are still delivering directly to Ukrainian ports?

3) Please explain to us how tomahawks from your whole friggin fleet can destroy 'Chinese cities'?

You said I did not provide reference? I remember I gave you an article showing you the calculation for both building damage and human fatalities radius, I also provided you the latest vessel tracking for Ukrainian ports showing NO commercial ships present. Here let me refresh you memory BELOW. I also showed you an article proving to you the Houthis admitted to attacking a previously BRITISH owned vessel that was flagged in PANAMA.

View attachment 96278

SEE THAT BIG EMPTY VOID. uH HUH, naval blockade does not involve PORTS huh! =)

Remember the calculator for blast radius for a single TOMAHWAK with 500kg warhead, here let me attach it AGAIN to refresh your memory since you said I gave you NO REFERENCE.

Blast Damage Estimation | International Ammunition Technical Guidelines

unsaferguard.org

View attachment 96279

100 Burkes x 128 missiles = 12800 missiles x 400sqm
= 5'000'000 sqm
= 5 sqkm

Size of Xiamen = 1700 sqkm
Assuming 1/4 are buildings = 400 sqkm

Total destruction assuming 100% success
and assuming 0 A/D = 5/400 x 100
= 1.25%

With so much allowance, you can only destroy 1.25% of Xiamen. That's also assuming all your missiles are used for attacking China using heavy 500kg warheads, none are left for AD and AS and Chinese Navy/AF is tying their hands behind their backs and not sinking your ships. LOL

Btw, are LNGs still transported in pipelines?LOL

Post #390

weird as in thinking you can wipe out coastal China? Alot EASIER huh, so much so that we don't see US 'defending' Ukraine? Heck the Russian don't even have a proper navy now. LOL

Post #375 - This is after I told him not to quote me again

Fine, I won't use the word fking but friggin okay mate? Lol. I also spelt satellite wrong, and then what? You can notice the typo but can't seem to be able to answer my questions?

1) How are Imaging and GPS says the same??

2) Can MSC or Maersk deliver to Ukriane directly. I proved to you there are zero vessels near any Ukrainian ports now.

3) Why naval blockade does not involve a port?

4)How do you destroy 'coastal' Chinese cities when I calculated the damage radius of a typical 500kg Tomahwak warhead x by all the Tomahawks in your fleet? It couldn't even destroy a single city let alone cities. LOLOLOL

 

[Han Patriot]

According to geolocation evidence collected by the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) in Washington, D.C., Russian troops occupied 4,168 square kilometers (1,609 square miles) of Ukrainian land in 2024. This will not take 20 years.

Ukraine was able to invade Russia because the Russian army in Kursk Oblast was understaffed and the main force of the Russian army was transferred back to Kursk Oblast, and the Ukrainian army's offensive stopped. Now the Ukrainian army is in a passive situation in Kursk Oblast.

If you go to YOUTUBE to watch more videos of Taiwan's military exercises, you will know that their tactics are still in the last century.

No matter how small Taiwan Island is, it has 1,200 kilometers. The total length of the five beaches where the million Allied troops landed in the Normandy Campaign in World War II was less than 50 kilometers.
View attachment 96396

300,000 troops plus 1 million drones and unmanned combat vehicles are enough to capture Taiwan. The Chinese Navy has 4 amphibious assault ships, 8 dock landing ships, more than 70 tank landing ships, hundreds of landing craft, hundreds of large roll-on/roll-off cargo ships, and thousands of civilian ships, which are enough to support the landing operations of a million troops.

China's intelligent system allows drones to independently plan their own routes and avoid each other.

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This is very good analysis. Most of Taiwan looks like this, very suitable for those landing barges. This opens up a few hundred km of landing options.

 

[Han Patriot]

3,000 AI drones reportedly sent to Russian army in Ukraine

bulgarianmilitary.com

Guess what the Russians are already using AI drones for autonomous tracking after target lock in by operator.

 

[MzdsFan]

We can have a detailed discussion

In the battle of Laoshan in 1984, PAVN organized 6 regiments & 2 battalions and planned to recapture Hamlet of Na La so they launched MB84 Campaign. PLA defending troops repelled them with artillery and modern military equipments (including night vision device and target finding radars.)
The commander of the 9th Regiment of the 40th Division which joined this battle: Zhang Youxia is the first-ranked vice chairman of the Central Military Commission, He saw how strong artillery is so he advocates Artillery Informatization, his idea really influence the Chinese army now.

 

[Han Patriot]

In the battle of Laoshan in 1984, PAVN organized 6 regiments & 2 battalions and planned to recapture Hamlet of Na La so they launched MB84 Campaign. PLA defending troops repelled them with artillery and modern military equipments (including night vision device and target finding radars.)
The commander of the 9th Regiment of the 40th Division which joined this battle: Zhang Youxia is the first-ranked vice chairman of the Central Military Commission, He saw how strong artillery is so he advocates Artillery Informatization, his idea really influence the Chinese army now.

Well now you can use drone for target acquisition, the power of artillery is amplified. The key is recon and guidance, the glonass and their recon sats are limited only China and US has global scale recon and GPS.

 

[MzdsFan]

Well now you can use drone for target acquisition, the power of artillery is amplified. The key is recon and guidance, the glonass and their recon sats are limited only China and US has global scale recon and GPS.

明白
国人交流可以不用洋文

 

[Han Patriot]

明白
国人交流可以不用洋文

International forum bro. Ppl need to understand too.