liuzhengdong
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Yes, the United States has defined the subsonic B-21 as a sixth-generation aircraft, and the supersonic Chinese J36 does not meet the sixth-generation aircraft standard.
Can the US win a war with China? Shocking new simulation reveals what could happen if Taiwan is attacked
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Han Patriot
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I told you, he thinks in a special way. Drones works both ways, and it is especially useful if you are the attacker on the move. A defender not attacking is defending, and you know they are somewhere in that city, just need to recon them out. So the key is target acquisition, just as the attacker is looking for the defender, the defender is also looking for the attacker.
The problem with Russia is they lack imint sats to get near real time Intel, the Muricans were supplying the Ukrainians even using commercial images. Imagine, Russia had to even buy satellite imagery from private Chinese companies. That's why China having the world's largest imint sigint radar sat network is crucial to win this war.
j_hungary
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Did I not explain it on that post?
Drone don't go seek out and attack target by themselves (Not even AI drone like MQ-28 can do that), you don't just launch them and expect a kill, you need 1 target correspondent with 1 drone, and you can't circle it around and look for target either.
And this is all you see as a drone ground station operator.
You literally need a ISR asset to spot a target for your attack drone to attack and that would multiply in workload if you are talking about operating 80 or 100 drone at the same time, because you have about 8000-12000 interaction if you have a 1 pass kill.
Defensive side, you KNOW where your enemy is going to be, you DON'T need to look for them because they are coming to attack you. That took the entire ISTAR chain out of the equation, basically you just position your asset in ASR/MSR and wait for the enemy to show up.
How hard is it to understand, attacker's position is fixated. If you need to attack a target, you ARE going to converge on that target eventually, but defender can be anywhere, it does not even have to be on the line.
j_hungary
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Again, that's the same point @Beijingwalker raised before. That's call Airspace Management and Deconfliction
You can't send 1000 drone on a target, because there are only 1 attacking lane on any given target, 1 way in and 1 way out. You can stack 1000 drone at the same airspace but only the bottom one can attack, otherwise the top one would attack the lower one in the same air space.
And also, if Ukraine really loss a lot of people Russia wouldn't have issue taking town, and the very fact that Russian LOST Russian territories to Ukraine when they are the one attacking is appalling, because that mean you either seriously underestimate your enemy and did not put troop on your border with THE NEIGHBOUR THEY ARE INVADING, or you don't have enough troop to secure the border, either of which is not really a good thing.
majesticpug
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I hope the US will get involved militarily. It's the only to see if it's a horse or an a$$. This applies to China as well as the US. China is to see if Xi is really serious and determined to defend China. US of course is to see if it's a paper tiger as Mao has once said.
j_hungary
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Currently there aren't much Ukrainian tank, again, they are defending, and you are talking about 14 to 1 ratio (14 video of Russian tank destroyed by drone to 1 Ukrainian video on their tank destroyed by Russian drone). I can play a game with you, you show me 1 video of Ukrainian Tank being destoryed by Russian drone and I show you 1 video of Russian tank being destroyed by Ukrainian drone, and we see who last longer?
And you can think whatever you think, but if you think whatever they show you then I can say EVERYONE is stupid
The main goal for an exercise is visibility, we all did that, that just show your unit is in the area, if they are hidden, the higher up watching the exercise won't be able to see what they are doing.......
liuzhengdong
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How can one release 1,000 drones at once? 1,000 aircraft attacked in batches. The People's Liberation Army's swarm AI drones have been in service for many years.
If Ukraine’s losses were not so great, it would not have abandoned its territory. The battle line cannot deceive people.
Han Patriot
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Did you see the drone swarm failure in US during new years eve. No wonder boy genius thinks there is a need for 'space deconfliction' as if they are jet fighters. Lololol.
Jets can't hover like drones (unless you are landing like harriers) , hence they might end up crashing with one another because they have to keep flying. Drones with synchronised maneuvers can be programmed in swarms.
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Han Patriot
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Hey Gary,
Try deconflicting this. Lolol
Video of the Day: Dragon drone show in China
YouTube · BYU Universe
Jul 4, 2023
liuzhengdong
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Only the side that suffered heavy losses will abandon the territory. The battle line cannot deceive people.
The military exercise videos you released are not from Taiwan. You can go and watch other military exercise videos from Taiwan to prove how stupid they are. Taiwan is such a small place. Where can they hide under the electro-optical reconnaissance of the PLA's reconnaissance satellites and drones? ? Taiwanese soldiers' pistol aiming is unique.
liuzhengdong
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Han Patriot
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Okay, I was wrong.
You are arguing with a genius who thinks GPS and Imaging sats are the same, apparently those sats are called INTEL Sats. LoLOlol.
The Russians even had to import infrared sensors from China. Imagine a drone swarm programmed to drop a mortar based on infrared imaging, with AI chip they can discern humans from exhaust pipes. Dji already sell those for power line inspections minus the AI ability.
Han Patriot
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Sixth gen fighters or 5th gen fighters should not be used until their defences are tenderized. Special forces, unconventional warfare must first be used, starve them out, cut off their fuel supply, their comms, use propaganda to spread the news that the rich and powerful left them to die. Destroy their snowflake spirit. War is not just about weapons, it is logistics as well, convert our civilians tankers and container carriers into supply ships and troop carriers. Activate the fifth column, bribe those low paid commanders, promise them confiscated properties and lifelong pension. Their oath was to defend the Republic of China, remind them of their oath.
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Beijingwalker
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Happy Chinese New Year！
j_hungary
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Have you ever heard of the term "Tactical Withdrawal"?
When a defensive position become untenable, you withdraw, it didn't matter if you suffer 1000 casualty or 0. You can't defend the place, you withdraw.
If what you said is the case, then Ukraine will NEVER be able to counter attack INTO Russia, because hey the Russian must have lose more people than Ukraine when they went into Russia by your definition, but then they can't be both losing and winning at the same time........
Again, that's how exercise work, when you are exercising you want to be visible and Taiwan is small, but not that small, and smaller battlefield means you can't put large number of troop as an attacker, you don't have enough room to maneuver, and Taiwan being an island would mean whatever attack coming from China would have to come piecemeal by assault ship, unless you are suggesting China send 1 million soldier to swim across, you can't land 10,000 assault ship at the same time at Taiwan coast, which mean they would have local superiority to the Chinese.
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