Can the US win a war with China? Shocking new simulation reveals what could happen if Taiwan is attacked

It sticks?Then alot of those medical and Engineering drop outs can become doctors and engineers? HAHAHAHAHAHA. They will still need to give you? Show me your diploma in IT? There is a saying in my Uni, if you can't finish Engineering, go for IT, if you can't finish IT go for business, that's for the dmb kids. LOL
I'm laughing out loud here. In order to have authoritative arguments in any debate (from medicine to IT, naval and air warfare), this guy needs to use subterfuge to fool the idiots. He was an infantry officer, an intelligence officer, a general staff planner, all his cousins are USN aviators (he used that argument with me haha), USN submariners, among others. I don't even answer him anymore, the guy is a joke.
 
Strategic think tank? If this is how Australia is getting advice, from someone who can't tell the difference between an imaging sat and a GPS, I fear for their future! LOL
You have to respect the guy. On top of that, he used to work for a strategic think tank. The man is a multitasker.

Lol
 
wait till 2025 when China will field 6 Carrier Task Groups
 
You have to respect the guy. On top of that, he used to work for a strategic think tank. The man is a multitasker.

Lol
Yea and I think the so called 'think tank' received funding from USAID. He is probably jobless now. I bet he is a 'Chinese Expert ANALyst". That guy had the technical knowledge of a janitor, his argument is US stronk, CHINA lose.
 
Can USA defeat China when China claims an Island which near the Chinese coast and there are ethnic Chinese people living in Taiwan who speak Mandarin as well?

Answer is:
Probably Not.

USA is a broke economy. America will eat grass if they will go against China 🕳️
 
China’s strength is undeniable inside the "Nine-Dash Line." But if you blockade them outside their AA/AD zones, it’s lights out for their trade routes and naval ambitions. No need to even fight in the South China Sea or mainland China.
This is the big question surrounding American involvement in Taiwan.

China has created an A2AD zone that no one can penetrate, but it also prevents China from exercising offensive dominance outside this bubble.

Here, the American strategy focuses on the fact that to break out of this bubble, China will have to make a forceful entry, operating against the assets of an allied A2AD system. The Americans and their allies are preparing to fight around the First Island Chain and thus degrade Chinese long-range capabilities.
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Look at the bubble created by Japan's deployment of long-range missiles:
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I will tell you all a little secret: TCM (traditional Chinese medicine) doctors are banned from prescribing anti-parasite drugs. The reason is very simple: TCM doesn't kill the parasite all at once, it leaves some alive to travel to other parts of the body.

Imagine the TCM only irritates the parasites in the lungs and cause them to flee to the brain... dum dum dum, that's teh end of that person's life! What can kill all the parasites at once leave none alive to migrate to other parts of the body are Western medicines and drugs. This is why it's illegal for TCM to treat parasitic infections!

If you just reunify Taiwan, that's like treating a parasite infection with TCM. What you actually want is all the parasites in the Asia Pacific dead all at once. China isn't just building up all her military might to retake Taiwan. She's actually preparing to administer "Western anti-parasitic" drugs on the whole Asia Pacific region!
 
The chain is only as strong as its weakest link. In a modern war with near transparency, it is easy to find the weakest link. American is now actually talking about disperse force.
 
This discussion is boring. everybody or people with a bit sense of reality knows Taiwan defence depends on US’s will to defend or at least provide military assistance if be attacked by the PLA.

if Trump loses interest like he does with Europe or NATO then Taiwan will lose. Taiwan military capability is probably on par with the Philippines. Almost 0.
 

what could happen if Taiwan is attacked​

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17:00, 23 Nov 2024, updated 17:00, 23 Nov 2024By JAMES REINL, SOCIAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT, FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

  • Casualties would quickly hit 10,000 on all sides in simulations of a war in 2026
House lawmakers this week weighed the prospects for a 2026 conflict between the US, Japan, and China over Taiwan in a war simulation that warned of devastating costs for all involved.

Exercises gamed out by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) showed how the US and its allies could derail an amphibious Chinese assault - but not without taking heavy losses themselves.

Fighting would claim some 10,000 casualties on all sides, CSIS projected. The US would lose 10-20 warships, two aircraft carriers, 200-400 warplanes and some 3,000 troops in just the first three weeks of fighting.

But China comes off worse, failing to regain Taiwan and losing most of its amphibious fleet, 52 major warships and 160 warplanes - a military humiliation that would imperil the country's communist leaders.

The grim war simulations come at a time of political upheaval, with Taiwan's President Lai Ching-te taking a tougher line on China, which sees Taiwan as a renegade province to be unified with the mainland, by force if necessary.

China has ramped up its military activities around Taiwan in the past five years, and President Xi Jinping has reportedly asked his generals to prepare to retake the island of 24 million people as soon as 2027.

US President Joe Biden has vowed to defend the territory. But the US is not under any treaty obligations to do so, and president-elect Donald Trump has signaled he is less willing to bankroll a war in Asia in pursuit of his 'America First' policy.

Against this tense backdrop, the CSIS this week showcased 25 possible simulations of the conflict to the members of the House China Select Committee, which is led by Michigan Republican John Moolenaar.

Ready for action: A Taiwanese conscript launches rockets during an exercise at a military base in Tainan, Taiwan

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Ready for action: A Taiwanese conscript launches rockets during an exercise at a military base in Tainan, Taiwan
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The big unknown: Would Chinese President Xi Jinping (right) launch an attack on Taiwan, and would president-elect Donald Trump defend the island? Pictured: a meeting of the two leaders in 2017

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'We walked through one simulation of what might happen in a worst-case scenario conflict with China and learned ways we can work together, in a bipartisan manner, to ensure that America is prepared,' Moolenaar told Fox News.

'No matter where or when, the US and our allies must have the military means to defeat our adversaries,' he said, adding that America may have to be the world's 'arsenal of democracy once more if called upon.'

The Chinese defense industry is operating on a 'wartime footing,' and has ramped up its shipbuilding capacity 230 times greater than America's, reducing the military advantage the US has enjoyed for decades against the rising Asian power, the CSIS warns.

Analysts urged lawmakers to be ready to act fast against a Chinese assault on Taiwan - saying the 'Ukraine' strategy of gradually upping support to that country to repel Russian invaders would not work in the South China Sea.

Taiwan would have to hold the line against an assault, and the US would need to join the fight immediately, operating through its bases in Japan, says Matthew Cancian, a Naval War College professor and lead author of the project.

'If the US were not to join the fight for two weeks [after an invasion], it would be too late,' says Cancian, a Marine veteran.

'China would already have too strong a footing.'

Washington also needs to send more anti-ship missiles to Taiwan to defend itself against an attack, the report says.

CSIS said Japan's role in any such conflict was paramount and called for quickly bolstering US-Japan ties, as South Korea would likely not get involved in a war over Taiwan.

Cancian said it would be 'very helpful if South Korea stood shoulder-to-shoulder with us.'

Analysts also warned that North Korea may use a Taiwan crisis as an opportunity to invade the South, perhaps using the troops currently getting combat experience backing Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Taiwan President Lai Ching-te (center) is taking a tougher line on independence from China than his predecessors

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Taiwan President Lai Ching-te (center) is taking a tougher line on independence from China than his predecessors
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A M60A3 tank fires live rounds in Penghu, Taiwan, in a simulation of a response to an attack from China's Coast Guard vessels and militia boats
War exercises gamed out by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) showed how the US and its allies could derail an amphibious Chinese assault

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War exercises gamed out by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) showed how the US and its allies could derail an amphibious Chinese assault
Defence minister reports Chinese aircrafts near Taiwan in army drills

Cancian warned that US forces could not defend Taiwan from afar and would have to be deployed on the island to halt any Chinese attack.

That's because China's anti-tank and anti-air missiles would threaten US shipments of weapons to the island.

'US forces would have to be directly involved,' said Cancian.

'There is no way to achieve denying a takeover of Taiwan while also keeping US forces safe.'

Researchers warned that China is outproducing the US on airplanes, ships, and missiles.

Beijing's land attack missiles and anti-ship missiles would be particularly devastating to US and allied forces there.

The Pentagon must ramp up production of Harpoon anti-ship missiles, coastal defense cruise missiles and other munitions to defend Taiwan, it is claimed.

Washington's current stockpile of some 440 anti-ship missiles would run out in less than seven days in a war with China, researchers warned.

They urged Taiwan's admirals to stop ordering large ships that China can easily target and destroy, and focus on smaller vessels and stealthy submarines.

The US has long maintained a policy of 'strategic ambiguity' over whether it would step in to defend Taiwan from a Chinese assault.

The policy makes Taipei unwilling to provoke a war by formally declaring independence from China, while at the same time deterring Beijing from invading the island, for fear of ending up at war with a superpower.

In the war game scenario, Trump, who is set to be president in 2026, comes to the defense of Taiwan.

The US is Taiwan's most important international backer and arms supplier, despite the lack of formal diplomatic recognition.

It is not clear what Trump would do under such a scenario - he has in the past suggested Taiwan should pay Washington for giving it defensive aid.

The war-gaming took place against the backdrop of mounting tensions between Taiwan, China, and the US.

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Taiwanese soldiers stand guard during the 'Chen-Chiang' nighttime military exercises, in Penghu, Taiwan
Taiwan President Lai Ching-te visits a military camp in Taoyuan, Taiwan, in May 2024, soon after taking office

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Taiwan President Lai Ching-te visits a military camp in Taoyuan, Taiwan, in May 2024, soon after taking office
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A member of the honour guards is seen during a ceremony commemorating the 75th anniversary of the Battle of Guningtou in Kinmen, Taiwan
Taiwan military on high alert as Chinese drills encircle the island
Taiwan's President Lai will visit Taipei's three remaining diplomatic allies in the Pacific on a trip starting at the end of the month, his office said on Friday.

But the government declined to give details on any transit stops by the president on US soil.

Taiwanese presidents usually use visits to allies to make what are officially stop-overs in the US, where they often meet with friendly politicians and give speeches, which anger Beijing.

On two occasions in the past two years, China staged military drills around Taiwan after presidential or vice-presidential stopovers in the US.

Taiwan's government rejects Beijing's sovereignty claims and says it has a right to engage with outer countries and for its leaders to make foreign trips.


In August of last year, China held a day of military drills around Taiwan after then-vice president Lai returned from the US, where he officially made only stopovers but gave speeches on his way to and from Paraguay.

In April of last year, China also held war games around Taiwan in anger at a US trip by then-president Tsai Ing-wen, who met then-US House of Representatives Speaker Kevin McCarthy in Los Angeles.
USA never fights a war it can't win. So based on the current Chinese power, their will be no active war between USA and China. USA will remain limited to trade wars.
But one point that is very very important to note here : Europe was the source of power for USA. Inventions ideas strategic manpower, it's all flew from there to USA. But now as this connection is about to get broken we will observe these things:
1) The resurrection of ancient devil from within Europe
2) The fall of USA as power
3) Wars between Islamic world and Europe
4) Attacks on nations on global scale.
5) UK will obviously lead this situation

But what if Russia destroyed UK ? 😁

We will be left with Israel only.
 
This discussion is boring. everybody or people with a bit sense of reality knows Taiwan defence depends on US’s will to defend or at least provide military assistance if be attacked by the PLA.

if Trump loses interest like he does with Europe or NATO then Taiwan will lose. Taiwan military capability is probably on par with the Philippines. Almost 0.
Taiwan military can beat Vietnam military hands down and it can obliterate the Filipin military with minimum fraction of the strength. Taiwan with Power Index of 0.3988 is ranked 22 of 145 out of the countries considered for the annual Global Firepower review, Vietnam 23 and Filipin with Power Index of only 0.6987 is ranked 41. Filipin military is like bandit, nobody, its elite special military force can't even stand Chinese Coast Guards as shown few months ago.
 
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Taiwan military can beat Vietnam military hands down and it can obliterate the Filipin military with minimum fraction of the strength. Taiwan with Power Index of 0.3988 is ranked 22 of 145 out of the countries considered for the annual Global Firepower review, Vietnam 23 and Filipin with Power Index of only 0.6987 is ranked 41. Filipin military is like bandit, nobody, its elite special military force can't even stand Chinese Coast Guards as shown few months ago.
You trust global power index?

you are a hopeless case.

in Far East only China poses a threat the rest can be ignored. seriously, if we in Viet Nam just have a fraction of chinese military power, let say 1/10, we would take Taiwan in a week or less.
3 day special military ops
 
You trust global power index?

you are a hopeless case.

in Far East only China poses a threat the rest can be ignored. seriously, if we in Viet Nam just have a fraction of chinese military power, let say 1/10, we would take Taiwan in a week or less.
3 day special military ops
Just one reference of firepower, not necessary military capability. Yeah, Vietnam is nobody similar to Filipin in the ranking.
 
You trust global power index?

you are a hopeless case.

in Far East only China poses a threat the rest can be ignored. seriously, if we in Viet Nam just have a fraction of chinese military power, let say 1/10, we would take Taiwan in a week or less.
3 day special military ops
Vietnam is good at land warfare, but still has a long way to go in air and sea warfare
 

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