Deino is not god Even some of die-hard SDF said last year they delivered 75 and this year production reached 100 copies before that 75 used an Al-31F engine.
Right now there are confirmed 14 or 15 brigades operating J-20 if you average just 20 considering some of them are not full strength you have 300
The point is maybe I'm not good (or good enough for you
), but (at least) I would still rate me one of the most reliable OSINT spotters in the West. Again, while you take each and every rumour for granted I try to be careful and rate a unit only as "confirmed" when it is confirmed.
Therefore fact that you don't agree with my estimation & calculation is surely due to you being too "overambitious" and my method of rating a unit as confirmed only via an image of a certain serial number and satellite imagery of J-20s at a certain base and not only once.
In essence I agree, that the production in 2023 was about 65-80 and in 2024 will reach maybe slightly +100: As such, there are indeed almost 300 built, but if all are delivered and in service is a different story and even more not all units are known.
But since we are on it: what are your units? ... I have:
- the 172nd & 176th as FTTC unit with not a full complement = 2 Brigades (about 12 J-20 each = 24)
- the 1st, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th, 41st, 56th, 97th & 111th as confirmed = 9 Brigades (about 24 ac. each = 216)
- the 55th as highly likely and both the 54th and 19th as reportedly = 3 Brigades (maybe 8 J-20 at the moment)
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altogether I would come to 272+ in service
- additionally there are rumours about the 131st and 2nd one preparing for conversion
What is your 15th confirmed unit then?
Does anyone here know whether the current production J-20s are being fitted with WS-15 or still WS-10C?
@Deino
@Hendarto
For now, all current serial production J-20s are just J-20 which are powered by the WS-10C. The J-20A with WS-15 is not yet in serial production for operational units, but I expect that soon we will see the first LRIP ones for additional trials and maybe a FTTB brigade.
PS: can we leave out this stupid discussion on Flankers and what's indigenous or Russian?!