Chinese Naval Platform & PLAN discussions

[FuturePAF]

The use of naval escort formations for combat, as well as multi-purpose fighter jets and missile bombers that need to strike surface vessels, is currently the most effective means of countering attempts by surface vessels to launch a salvo of anti-ship missiles. Taking the US military as an example, dozens of drones and anti-ship missiles attempting to strike the US carrier battle group is nothing but a fantasy.
The US military's Aleburk class destroyer has the ability to simultaneously detect 400 batches of targets and guide carrier based anti-aircraft missiles to launch simultaneous attacks on dozens of them. Our J-16 fighter jet also has the ability to launch anti-ship attacks in coastal waters, carrying anti-ship missiles to strike surface combat vessels and possessing extremely strong anti-ship assault capabilities in coastal waters

Offense will not be a good enough defense, unless this is a matter of attritional warfare.

 

[guangdongt]

Offense will not be a good enough defense, unless this is a matter of attritional warfare.

Saturation attack and salvo are themselves a war of attrition, and single or two supersonic cruise missiles cannot play much role in facing escort formations. Faced with dense defense and multiple interceptions, the hit rate sharply decreases. Even if the United States simulates a confrontation with China, it still emphasizes saturation attack. In the US military's vision, once it engages in combat with the Chinese Navy in the Asia Pacific region. So the B-1B supersonic bomber can launch massive AGM-158C stealth anti-ship missiles against the Chinese Navy, together with combat vessels from the US Navy, forming a saturation attack. The US military is fighting against saturation attacks, releasing strong electromagnetic interference. They use target missiles to simulate large-scale attacks and test their defense systems, and China is no exception.I also have a special question to mention. Pakistan has introduced four 054a， and it is unknown whether their regular training will be disclosed. However, when facing Brahmos in India, there is definitely target plane simulation for large-scale salvo, specifically testing the multi-layer air defense system of the 054a，I would never say that in the face of a large number of stealth anti-ship missiles or advanced supersonic anti-ship missiles launching in multiple batches, there is missile system in the world that can intercept 100%. That is just a propaganda myth. What we need to do is to continuously increase the number and upper limit of missiles that can be intercepted in one performance during training.

 

[FuturePAF]

Saturation attack and salvo are themselves a war of attrition, and single or two supersonic cruise missiles cannot play much role in facing escort formations. Faced with dense defense and multiple interceptions, the hit rate sharply decreases. Even if the United States simulates a confrontation with China, it still emphasizes saturation attack. In the US military's vision, once it engages in combat with the Chinese Navy in the Asia Pacific region. So the B-1B supersonic bomber can launch massive AGM-158C stealth anti-ship missiles against the Chinese Navy, together with combat vessels from the US Navy, forming a saturation attack. The US military is fighting against saturation attacks, releasing strong electromagnetic interference. They use target missiles to simulate large-scale attacks and test their defense systems, and China is no exception.I also have a special question to mention. Pakistan has introduced four 054a， and it is unknown whether their regular training will be disclosed. However, when facing Brahmos in India, there is definitely target plane simulation for large-scale salvo, specifically testing the multi-layer air defense system of the 054a，I would never say that in the face of a large number of stealth anti-ship missiles or advanced supersonic anti-ship missiles launching in multiple batches, there is missile system in the world that can intercept 100%. That is just a propaganda myth. What we need to do is to continuously increase the number and upper limit of missiles that can be intercepted in one performance during training.

Layered defensive strategies and good training are vital but so are improving missiles to increase the probability the Low RCS missiles like LRASM or supersonic sea skimmers like Brahmos are intercepted with a high enough probability.

P.s. the missile developed for the navy could create the tech to build long range A2A missiles.

 

[Beijingwalker]

Even so, it resulted in the deaths of 70 of your sailors. One can only speculate about what might occurred during wartime. LMAO

Why Indian media is so pathetic?

 

[guangdongt]

The new comprehensive technology experimental ship has been put on trial voyage

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[Harbyharb]

The new comprehensive technology experimental ship has been put on trial voyage

I noted the new stealth housing for the HHQ-10 on the aft deck. Hopefully, we will get to know what kind of VLS and sensor suite comes with the ship also.

Looks like a proof-of-concept for an expendable, minimally-crewed, high-survivability littoral corvette project. We shall see how it goes.

 

[guangdongt]

I noted the new stealth housing for the HHQ-10 on the aft deck. Hopefully, we will get to know what kind of VLS and sensor suite comes with the ship also.

Looks like a proof-of-concept for an expendable, minimally-crewed, high-survivability littoral corvette project. We shall see how it goes.

I think I am more interested in new cannons and waiting for new public news

 

[Han Patriot]

Why Indian media is so pathetic?

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Indian media is even worse than WMSM. They normally will exaggerate the issue.

 

[altafahmed]

PLAN is not a blue water navy as they operate only a handful of FSS and logistic bases around the world. It's not the size of the fleet, it's the ability to project it anywhere in the world. Imagine a CBG arriving off the coast of New York before heading to Rio de Janeiro. This is the first step

The Defense Counterintelligence and Security Agency of the United States has defined the blue-water navy as "a maritime force capable of sustained operation across the deep waters of open oceans. A blue-water navy allows a country to project power far from the home country and usually includes one or more aircraft carriers.

 

[ety]

The Defense Counterintelligence and Security Agency of the United States has defined the blue-water navy as "a maritime force capable of sustained operation across the deep waters of open oceans. A blue-water navy allows a country to project power far from the home country and usually includes one or more aircraft carriers.

Anything from China different to their master US, the Indians will call it not qualified.

 

[guangdongt]

 

[johncliu88]

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What model is this one? For export?

 

[guangdongt]

What model is this one? For export?

A comprehensive experimental vessel

 

[guangdongt]

China's aviation industry has officially released beautiful photos

 

[guangdongt]

This is a picture of the 168 destroyer that I collected before it was renovated，20 years ago, when the 168 was first put into service, I regretted that it did not have VLS. Now that the renovation has been completed, it finally has HQ16, which is better than the renovation of modern class destroyers. The anti-ship missile is a bit regrettable. The number of YJ12 missiles is half that of YJ83 missiles, and the previous 16 missile attacks are also very good. I remember that the domestic 054a still uses yj83