And a production license in Egypt, and the Chinese refused at the time. Egypt requested in 2010 a license to produce the J-10A/S aircraft. The Chinese side also refused, and the same thing happened for the J-10B aircraft.
As a result of the continued Chinese refusal, Egypt rejected the Chinese offer for the L-15 aircraft.
When the Chinese policy changed in releasing the sale of acceptable weapons technologies, Egypt responded to Egypt to meet its needs. Rather, the Chinese themselves offered special solutions, such as a unified engine for the J-10/20 fighters, which is the WS-15, and an improved airframe for the aircraft to raise its level. This will not happen except in the next batches of J-10 aircraft purchases.
Arms sales deals are linked to political and economic consensus and alliances. Egypt also balances its relationship between the East and the West, i.e. Egypt's entry into BRICS. In return for huge economic cooperation, China will invest $20 billion in Egypt. It has already bought two industrial cities and requested land for factories in El Alamein They have a huge industry in Egypt in high-tech fields that are not announced. China released this technology in exchange for alliances between the two countries.
China's trade volume with Egypt exceeds $20 billion, and even the loans provided to Egypt exceed $10 billion, whether announced or unannounced
Egypt has been a back door for Western technology since the eighties.
You ignore all of this and deny signing any deals.
Everyone was denying that Egypt obtained LHD MISTRAL ships. Everyone was denying.
You also denied that Egypt obtained SCLAP missiles. In the first deal, instead of Egypt obtaining 50 missiles as an initial deal, Egypt obtained 100 despite American pressure.
The Americans themselves know that Egypt decided to replace the F-7 aircraft with J-10C aircraft and perhaps also replace the F-16A/B. You deny the deal, although no negotiations have been announced for two years in all media outlets, apart from YouTube. Your denial is related to Turkey's failure to develop its air force and its inability to anger America again and buy a batch of J-10C aircraft at a price of $65 million with the best technical specifications available to India or parallel deals to what Pakistan obtained at a value of $50 million instead of deals worth $23 billion. China is not Naive, but it targets the largest package of deals for the Egyptian Air Force with 4++ aircraft, fifth generation aircraft, transport aircraft, tankers,
and perhaps Chinese AWACS aircraft such as the KJ-700. Israel bought aircraft from America worth 21 billion dollars, and Egypt is targeting parallel deals. This will work to return the spread of Chinese fighters in African and Asian countries after obtaining an air force with a global reputation such as the Egyptian Air Force, which does not compromise on specific levels of quality, so they spread like the spread of the sale of Rafale fighters after Egypt bought them.
Another important matter is China's approval to produce the PL-15 missile in Egypt. In the past, Egypt had assembled the Chinese PL-7 missile under license from China for use on the F-7 & K-8E fighters. That is, Egypt is looking for a complete package of armaments, and China has finally approved it.
I publish different fighters from different platforms and not an anonymous YouTuber as you claim. The first to publish the news were Israeli sites, then Western sites and Chinese statements. I said that Egypt will conclude some weapons deals at the El Alamein Air Show, and this is inevitable because it is simply not possible to hold an air show without major deals that encourage countries to participate in the next editions in the hope of deals with the country hosting the show. Let us note that America released C-130J aircraft to Egypt to show that they are still present in the Egyptian defense market and that they want to sell more CH-47F II aircraft as well as complete the development of the AH-64E and commercial aircraft deals. During the show, France announced backward deals to manufacture parts for the Rafale, and an effective center for the repair and maintenance of French engines. Expanding cooperation between Egypt and France is a natural thing, and each country at the show was highlighting something specific and its role in the Egyptian arms program as a promotion for its industry, and Egypt, in the same vein, tried to show the beginnings of capabilities to develop its air industry and meet part of its defense needs. Increasingly locally
You ignore these matters and just like children deny it, and since when did Egypt officially announce its deals with China since 1976, the announced Chinese deals between Egypt and China were mainly the K8-E training aircraft because it uses the American Honeywell engine, while the cooperation package between Egypt and China includes a series of missile systems from anti-tank to ballistic missiles and drones, only a small part of the cooperation is announced.
The increasing participation of China in the exhibition, whether through the air show or companies representing a package of Chinese defense or air companies that includes 30 companies, is not for a walk to spend millions of dollars or even an air show of a plane and 7 fighters, is not a compliment, but is only done through there is a well-established defense cooperation, China presents its products and also supports this air show and highlights the importance of the Egyptian defense market to China, and also provides an opportunity to promote its products to the rest of the African countries, as Egypt has hosted many defense ministers and commanders of the air forces of many countries.
So the matters are not just news or something else From some to comprehensive cooperation programs in many fields, Egypt is a cornerstone of China's Belt and Road Initiative.
Other than the compliments, there is a conflict of interests between Egypt and America. America wants to implement Israel’s plans for expansion, and America wants to divide the Arab and African countries and keep them as areas of permanent tension. Therefore, it is natural for arms cooperation between Egypt and America to decrease continuously and gradually so that there is no weakness in the Egyptian military capabilities. Unlike ten years ago, Egypt bought arms packages from Russia, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, South Korea and China gradually instead of 90% of the weapons that were purchased from America. The confrontations between Egypt and Israel are inevitable, not only for Israeli reasons and their Torit dreams, but also because the inevitability of Egypt eliminating Israel in Israel’s prophecies and the imminent fall of their state requires Egypt to prepare for any conflict they are working to ignite through military uses and the necessary armament for that. Any matter is not childish jealousy and denial by some naive people for fear of the lack of military air balance with their state’s ambitions in the eastern Mediterranean and North Africa. We are a state that has known for thousands of years. How do we neutralize some enemies for a while so that we are ready for the conflict to ensure the achievement of our goals?
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25 billion, 40 J-10CEs, Egypt's appetite is not ordinary, AVIC is expected to make a lot of money
250亿，40架J-10CE，埃及的胃口不是一般大，中航有望大赚一笔
埃及今年破天荒的举办了首届航空展，我们也破天荒地派出了规模庞大的实机展示阵容，在这个阵容中虽然八一飞行表演队早已是外访常客，但Y-20大型运输机的飞行表演却是海外首次。
这两个破天荒合在一起就不简单了，为什么我们捧场力度这么大？所谓不见兔子不撒鹰，果不其然，还真是有大手笔。
Egypt held its first air show this year, and we also sent a large-scale lineup of real aircraft for display, which was unprecedented. Although the August 1st Flying Team has long been a frequent visitor to foreign countries, the flight performance of the Y-20 large transport aircraft was the first overseas.
These two unprecedented events together are not simple, why do we support them so strongly? As the saying goes , you don’t release the eagle until you see the rabbit . As expected, there is really a big deal.
Recently, Egyptian President Sisi visited the air show and came to the AVIC exhibition area. He wrote his blessings for the continued cooperation between China and Egypt in the autograph book.
Representatives of AVIC also held discussions with Sisi, covering the following four aspects:
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1. The Egyptian Air Force is equipped with 120 K-8 intermediate trainer aircraft and is the largest overseas customer of my country's K-8;
2. The Egyptian Air Force is equipped with 34 Wing Loong-1 reconnaissance and strike drones and is also the largest overseas customer of Wing Loong products. It plays an important role in Egypt's anti-terrorism, riot control, border patrol and other fields;
K-8 intermediate trainer aircraft equipped by the Egyptian Air Force
Egypt's Wing Loong-1 reconnaissance and strike drone
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3. my country's L-15 advanced trainer aircraft is bidding for Egypt's advanced trainer aircraft project. AVIC is confident about this because our products have advanced performance and mature technology. China and Egypt also have a good cooperation foundation for the K-8 trainer aircraft.
4. On August 19, China and Egypt signed a cooperation agreement between the two countries and their militaries on the advanced fighter jet project . This is a project that President Sisi is personally concerned about, and the two countries are currently making every effort to promote the project.
The most important of the four points in the conversation between the two is the fourth point, "Advanced Fighter Project". The advanced fighter jets currently exported by my country are J-10CE and FC-31.
An Egyptian blogger revealed on a social media platform that during the conversation, when President Sisi mentioned the advanced fighter jet project, his eyes were focused on the J-10CE model. In addition, the FC-31 model, which often appeared at overseas air shows in the past, did not appear this time. The purpose behind this is obvious.
Based on this, many overseas media believe that the agreement signed between China and Egypt is about the introduction of the J-10CE. Currently, the Egyptian Air Force is equipped with more than 200 F-16 fighters, of which 40 F-16A/B models are relatively old models with little upgrade value. The purpose of introducing the J-10CE is to replace these old fourth-generation aircraft one-to-one.
F-16 fighter jets equipped by the Egyptian Air Force
According to the latest international generation standards, the J-10CE belongs to the fourth-generation and a half fighter . It is equipped with a multi-functional, high-power airborne active phased array radar with powerful multi-target tracking capabilities and can perform multi-domain combat missions such as air, ground and sea.
The J-10CE has a powerful subsonic instantaneous hovering performance, and can achieve a tail-biting attack in a much shorter time than the opponent in close combat. Pakistani J-10CE pilots said that the tail-biting maneuver is very deadly and almost impossible to resist. In addition, it is also very good in supersonic interception capability and has the ability of "intermittent supersonic cruise".
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Compared with the basic version of J-10, the biggest change in the appearance of J-10CE is the adoption of DSI supersonic inlet without boundary layer isolation. There are only two countries in the world that have mastered this inlet technology, and we are the one with the most experience in engineering application.
J-10CE
The advantages of the DSI inlet are quite a lot. For example, it can significantly reduce the weight of the airframe structure, which can give weight resources to other airborne loads, making the aircraft more adaptable to multiple missions, and can also reduce windward drag, and use the bulge to shield to a certain extent to achieve low detectability (stealth). What is more interesting is that in the minds of some Pakistani pilots, the J-10CE has become a stealth aircraft.
For the Egyptian Air Force, Rafale fighters, improved F-16s, and J-10CE are all options. However, the J-10CE has a core technical advantage that the other two models do not have, and that advantage is the ultra-long range of the PL-15 air-to-air missile.
In contrast, the Rafale fighter jets of the Egyptian Air Force are only equipped with Mica air-to-air missiles with a range of 80 kilometers. The United States has only given Egypt AIM-7 air-to-air missiles with a range of only 50 kilometers. Its intention is to ensure the technological advantage of the Israeli Air Force. From this we can see that the United States often has the bad habit of attaching conditions when selling weapons.
An Egyptian Air Force Rafale fighter jet with a Mika air-to-air missile mounted on the wingtip pylon.
PL-15E is the export model of my country's self-use version of PL-15. Although its range is reduced compared to the self-use version, it can also reach a range of 125 kilometers +. More importantly, we will not attach any conditions for use, because we can provide a systematic export version of the airborne weapon system, whether you want medium- and long-range air-to-air missiles, air-to-ship missiles, air-to-ground missiles, precision-guided munitions, it can be said that we have everything, and there are always a few that suit you.
The J-10CE dual composite pylons are equipped with four PL-15E medium- and long-range air-to-air missiles
In addition to the J-10CE, Egypt is currently also seriously considering introducing the Y-20 large transport aircraft. The introduction of this type of aircraft will have an immediate effect on enhancing a country's air force strategic capabilities.
Having a large aircraft is completely different from not having one. First of all, the Y-20 is the only large aircraft model that can be mass-produced in the world, because the C-17 transport aircraft has been discontinued and the Il-76 series has limited production capacity.
Y-20 pulsating production line
Y-20 performing a flight show at the Egypt Air Show
In addition, the competitive advantage of the Y-20 is quite large. The model for export will not be the Y-20A equipped with the D-30KP-2 medium bypass ratio turbofan engine, but the Y-20B equipped with a domestically produced high bypass ratio turbofan engine. The maximum take-off weight of the aircraft is 220 tons and the maximum carrying capacity can reach 66 tons. The most important thing is that owning the Y-20B is equivalent to owning the YU-20B, because the aircraft can realize the convenient expansion of the aerial refueling function by adding a refueling component.
Y-20B model at the AVIC exhibition area at the Egypt Air Show
Y-20B
Y-20B equipped with aerial refueling mission kit
Owning the Y-20B has at least three benefits for Egypt:
1. Further enhance strategic air transport capabilities, so that they can not only quickly reach the entire territory, but also achieve cross-regional delivery throughout the Middle East;
2. Combined operations with the J-10CE will further enhance the J-10CE's rapid deployment capability and form a "rapid J-10CE" capability similar to the US military's "rapid raptor";
3. Large aerial refueling aircraft greatly expand the combat capability of the Egyptian Air Force in remote airspace.
High cost-effectiveness has always been an advantage of my country's military product exports. However, since the beginning of the new century, my country's military foreign trade has long moved from the low-end and mid-end to full coverage of the high, medium and low-end. The J-10CE is obviously a high-end military sale, and high-end military sales have always been high value-added. Taking the 40 J-10CEs that Egypt plans to introduce as an example, what will the total price be once this contract is finally implemented?
The answer to this question can be found from Pakistan. The country is the first overseas customer of the J-10CE fighter. In the past, they were tight-lipped about the data and information related to this arms sale, but the omnipotent military fans still dug up useful information.
Pakistan Air Force’s public J-10CE procurement documents
A Pakistani Air Force document disclosed the purchase quantity and price of the J-10CE. The order included 20 J-10CE fighters, 10 WS-10B engines, and 240 PL-15E medium- and long-range air-to-air missiles. In addition, there were costs for pilot and ground crew training, logistics support, and other projects, totaling 12.87 billion yuan.
From this, we can see that including various supporting equipment, the purchase price of each J-10CE is 643.5 million yuan. Without considering exchange rate changes, the total price for Egypt to purchase 40 J-10CEs should be around 25 billion yuan.
The J-10CE has been fully domestically produced, and the engine problems that were criticized in the past are no longer present. As a high-end model with high added value, even if the profit is half and half, the profit of this transaction will be in the tens of billions.
The J-10CE uses the WS-10B engine
Imagine if there were no foreign trade military industry, relying solely on the national defense budget, a defense budget of 10 billion would have to correspond to at least 1 trillion GDP output to be allocated. This shows how effective the foreign trade military industry is in feeding back the accelerated development of the country's military industry.
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