Egypt Orders J-10C To Replace Ageing F-16s

[Sami_1]

Is France going to supply BVRs as part of any new deal?

Let me tell you something, France gave METEOR missiles to India, Egypt to Greece urgently, but in small quantities, such as 20 missiles for each country, starting with the contract for the second batch, as confirmation of the transfer to Egypt, in addition to the deal of 200 METEOR missiles as a complementary ammunition deal.

 

[Sami_1]

Egypt has been working for years to add various packages of air ammunition to Egyptian fighters. Simply put, Egypt is working to develop various guided bombs with higher performance than American bombs in terms of penetration and destructive capacity by specific percentages. And converting rocket artillery into air-to-ground missiles with 122/300/400 mm calibers. Egypt is working to produce two missiles, the MICA-NG missile and the Chinese PL-15 missile. India is offering Egypt several types of Indian ammunition such as the ASTRA-MK2 missile and the SAAW projectile, which will be transformed into a family of them, a projectile with a range of 250 kilometers as a miniature cruise missile, in addition to supplying the Egyptian MiG-29 and Rafale with various Indian ammunition in addition to French ammunition. There is a point that some ignore. Any country that buys fighters in numbers of more than 60 fighters seeks to integrate ammunition other than the original source. Therefore, there is an Egyptian-French understanding on this point. Why was it not? The agreements are satisfactory to Egypt when it contracted for French fighters regardless of some mentally hostile to Egypt for other purposes that do not concern us.

Let us remember India, which integrated Russian missiles into the Mirage 2000 fighters such as the KH-29/R-73, and India's request to integrate the Russian KH-31 missile into the Rafale as a purchase condition. Some do not know that the same missile is also integrated into the Egyptian Rafale. Russian missiles have become accurate and at a low price.

Several years ago, Egypt and Saudi Arabia were negotiating with China over the CM-400AKG missile, although the two countries do not possess Chinese fighters. It is true that China manufactures adapters to integrate missiles into non-Chinese fighter carriers SWFCS.

Stand alone weapon and fire control system
These systems only appear in times of war and not in international maneuvers. It is not normal for countries to use huge numbers of fighters with very old ammunition that makes them ineffective in air combat. What country possesses a type 200 missile that does not have ammunition integrated into it? PAVEWAY bombs are used by countries to find various solutions to overcome the restrictions of manufacturing countries, as long as the supplying countries may turn against the enemy at any moment. Let us remember when America imposed a ban on spare parts for the Pakistani F-16, Pakistan found a solution to obtain them from Egypt. This is a natural thing. Any country is looking for solutions, and not everything is announced.

 

[air marshal]

 

[StormOfTruth]

Well I am all the more happy for the Chinese making their mark in the jet fighter market as well as the Egyptians modernizing their Airforce but what is to be the impact on JF-17 exports once the J-10 start getting major orders like this?

 

[MirageBlue]

Even those are still without BVR

They have MICA EM missiles.

 

[Dalit]

F16s will be there for decades to come

In 20-30 years May be a waterdown version of f35 as long as Elsisi is there or aome other puppet guy

The acquisition of J-10s is particularly significant when considering the current state of the Egyptian fighter fleet, which has long been considered almost totally incapable of fighting a major inter-state war. The close to 200 F-16s that form the backbone of the fleet are considered among the least capable fourth generation fighters in the world, and have been heavily downgraded and restricted to using obsolete Cold War era weaponry - and no beyond visual range air to surface weapons whatsoever. This combined with the United States’ control over spare parts supplies, and its tight restrictions imposed on how the aircraft can be operated, seriously limits Egyptian air power.

Egypt Orders J-10C Fighters to Replace Ageing F-16s - Reports

The Egyptian Defence Ministry has reportedly placed its first ever order for Chinese fourth generation fighters, with an unspecified number of J-10C fighters reported to

militarywatchmagazine.com

I don't know what purpose these Egyptian F-16s have served.

As for the Rafale:

Alongside its F-16s, Egypt’s French-supplied Rafale fighters ordered since 2015 also suffer from significant downgrades to performance, most significantly the lack of Meteor air to air missiles which seriously limits their combat potential.

 

[UKBengali]

As for the Rafale:

Alongside its F-16s, Egypt’s French-supplied Rafale fighters ordered since 2015 also suffer from significant downgrades to performance, most significantly the lack of Meteor air to air missiles which seriously limits their combat potential.

There is no confirmation or evidence of Meteor coming to Egyptian Rafales.

The "qualitative edge" of the Zionist entity is supreme for the westerners.

J-10CE with PL-15E would make so much financial and military sense for Egypt than expensive Rafales without Meteor.

 

[Dalit]

There is no confirmation or evidence of Meteor coming to Egyptian Rafales.

The "qualitative edge" of the Zionist entity is supreme for the westerners.

J-10CE with PL-15E would make so much financial and military sense for Egypt than expensive Rafales without Meteor.

The F-16 diplomacy succes is finally dying out.

Israel and the Americans will probably not allow France to supply the Meteor missiles to Egypt.

 

[Dalit]

Read this:

The F-16 Is Being Replaced by China's J-10C Fighter in 1 Air Force

Egypt has decided to replace its aging fleet of U.S.-made F-16 Fighting Falcons with Chinese J-10C Vigorous Dragon fighters, underscoring a shift in its defense strategy.

nationalinterest.org

 

[UKBengali]

The F-16 diplomacy succes is finally dying out.

Israel and the Americans will probably not allow France to supply the Meteor missiles to Egypt.

Egyptian F-16 is downgraded in every way apart from the airframe. The 1980s Sparrow has range of only 70km.

Without long-range(100km+) active radar guided missiles, you are pretty much flying a coffin.

Let us hope that Egypt can somehow move to Chinese airplanes like J-10CE and then J-31 so that it can fully defend itself and take on the entity as an equal.

 

[Dalit]

Egyptian F-16 is downgraded in every way apart from the airframe. The 1980s Sparrow has range of only 70km.

Without long-range(100km+) active radar guided missiles, you are pretty much flying a coffin.

Let us hope that Egypt can somehow move to Chinese airplanes like J-10CE and then J-31 so that it can fully defend itself and take on the entity as an equal.

That is true. What I am most interested in is US response. Thus far very muted.

 

[majesticpug]

I don't know what purpose these Egyptian F-16s have served.

These F-16s is just an emblem of APS (American Poodle Society). US created many clubs for their so-called allies or partners. The Shephard and Rottweiler Societies receive better-graded weapons and more relaxed/flexible use directives. Taiwan for example with loads of money get better F16Vs because they have been paying premium prices for obsolete or not-needed eqipment but they still can't get the Rottweiler-grade weapons like UK, Japan, and Israel can.

 

[GatlingGun]

@GoMig-21 your insights needed here.

 

[onlinpunit]

Egyptian armed forces are trusted ally of USA. Will chinese fake the risk of J 10 C and PL 15 getting inspected by USA ?

 

[ety]

If the US wants to buy Chinese J10C/FC31 now, China will sell the same.

No. Unrealistic and unlikely in current relationship, it's not the US-Soviet cold-war era.