Egyptian Armed Forces

We are in the middle of 2024 and yet
Egypt did not announce that it was canceling the deal
SU-35
Egypt did not contract contracts F-15 and EURO FIGHTER TYPHOON deals
But it was only announced
Egypt purchased the second batch of Rafale fighters and announced that Egypt had purchased METEOR missiles

The Russians produced large numbers of SU-35 fighters after the completion of production of the Egyptian aircraft, meaning simply more than 28 aircraft in addition to the Russian Air Force and also numbers if they were for Iran.

The United States has conflicting interests with Egypt, and the United States is interested in it
1 - Failing the Silk Road project
2 - Stopping the Suez Canal to disrupt Chinese-European trade and raise the cost of maritime transport to China
3 - The United States is the one that uses the functional state of Israel and thus maintains its superiority


Egypt has a permanent policy. I hear nothing is a canceled but postponed deal

Egypt demands more than 60 heavy aircraft, not just 32 SU-35 aircraft
Simply put, Egypt has various solutions. Russian fighters. The Russians not announcing export deals does not mean that the Russians have stopped, especially since they regained their production capacity before the end of 2022.
Chinese solutions are available

For Egypt, the American sanctions do not represent a problem because Egypt is actually under American sanctions
The Americans did not succeed in luring the Egyptians. There were solutions by which America could attract the Egyptians, such as providing 48 F-15E aircraft upgraded to the F-15EX level at the cost of development for Egypt only and through aid, and this was not done.

The Egyptian Air Force has development timings that should not be exceeded, especially since the number of fighters is not sufficient. Egypt developed more than 13 airports previously and added new airports, and these airports accommodate many fighters, and the level of threats increased after the fall of Libya and Sudan and the emergence of the GERD dam problem.
Air-to-air missiles The solutions for Egypt are many. To replace 1,300 SPARROW missiles, a tender was announced, and the news was talking about China being the most fortunate. Despite cooperation with China in missiles of various types, fighter jet deals were halted due to Egyptian technical requests.
Any Egyptian contract for Western fighters requires 4 years for delivery from now

As a result of these data, it is not concluded that the SU-35 deal was cancelled, but rather that there was an additional deal
Egypt does not suffer from a shortage of foreign currencies, but rather mismanagement of many destinations that have an internal supply of dollars. In fact, Egypt does not have a dollar shortage.
We always know who the real enemy of Egypt is. Will Egypt obey its enemy who wants to weaken it? The period from 2003-2013 made it clear that the United States, with its hostile policy related to weakening the Egyptian army, made the Egyptians not declare themselves as an enemy, but they deal with America as an enemy in practical application, and Egypt cannot even change its arms policy and return to slaughter. For a simple reason, the American army has increased the momentum of diversification and employment of every weapon within the Egyptian army. Egypt has been giving signals that its armament has been diversified for a long time, and Egypt’s purchase of F-15 fighters makes Egypt restricted in the over hull programs for fighters that must take place inside the United States. One of the reasons for removing the F-4E fighter early is the need for reconstruction. It is outside Egypt and the United States has closed the over hull route for it. Therefore, what will Egypt do when it purchases F-15 fighters, as they have begun to go out of service in the United States? Where will Egypt rebuild them and even obtain spare parts for them after 20 years? Therefore, this makes this option for Egypt very bad, in addition to weapons. The American price is very high. Egypt obtained 52 MIG-29M fighters at a price of 2,200 million dollars, which included multiple missiles in large quantities, KH-31/35/36 GROM/R-77/R74, and perhaps other unannounced missiles, and a large series of Russian guided bombs, in addition to the Russian fighters. AASM bombs are used and the Russians used them through MIL-STD-1553B to use Western equipment, and we all saw how Western ammunition was integrated into Ukrainian MIG-29 fighters.
Consequently, the same thing applies: the SU-35 fighters were purchased at a price of 2850, then an additional 550 million dollars was added for modernization, as well as the ammunition packages, which are really large, so that Egypt can obtain the volume of ammunition and equipment that Egypt contracted for in the SU-35. With any Western fighter, it will be twice the price of the Russian deal. At the very least, these factors have an impact. The deal for 30 Rafale fighters is at a price of 4.5 billion dollars, in addition to the cost of ammunition, which is not less than 2 billion dollars. Even if Egypt had obtained 24 Euro fighter Typhoon fighters, it would have been at a price of 3 billion euros. The price rose without ammunition. Things are not easy. Western Europe is almost dependent on... Supplying weapons to Egypt They are convinced that Egypt has become stronger than it should be, as all intelligence agencies know the level of Egyptian armament, which is large and undeclared, for deals with the Russians, China and India, so it is not only disrupting new deals, but slowing down the delivery of previous deals.
Relations with the Russians cannot be stopped until the announced deals are completed, because it is simply an integrated system of fighters, air defense systems, and radars, all of which are integrated to form a specific network that cannot be neglected because its defensive impact will be great.

Therefore, all Western news about canceling the SU-35 deal is not believable unless the state announced its cancellation, and cancel did not announce its support and did not announce the acceptance of the alternative.
 
We are in the middle of 2024 and yet
Egypt did not announce that it was canceling the deal
SU-35

This is true, but where is there any indication that they're still available?

The Russians produced large numbers of SU-35 fighters after the completion of production of the Egyptian aircraft, meaning simply more than 28 aircraft in addition to the Russian Air Force and also numbers if they were for Iran.

Where did you get this "more than 28" number from? Sorry but there is no official release by the VVS suggesting any number. As a matter of fact, they even purposely blur the serial numbers on the new jets they introduce into operations specifically so that the enemy or anyone else (hint hint US/NATO/UKRAINE lool) has no idea exactly how many new Su-35Ss are being put into operation. Makes all the sense in times of war you want to avoid giving any unnecessary intel to your enemies, especially the likes of the aforementioned. You can see the blurred serial numbers in the pics below of newly introduced Su-35Ss into the VVS just 3 weeks ago.

And that is exactly why there is no way to know Sukhoi produce a number over 28 units. Instead, it's much more plausible that they are in fact reworked EAF jets. Considering Russia's embroiled war they claim is an SMO, they didn't even exhibit any aircraft in this year's Victory Day parade except a few Su-25s and no armor except a couple T-34s and the huge ICBMs they bring out every year. Not even a single T-14 Armata.

Many are saying it's because people complained last year that there was a war, and they shouldn't be flaunting stuff while soldiers are dying so Putin did exactly that, limited the showing off.

I happen to also think that the war is a financial & logistical burden on the Russian armed forces which makes even more sense that Sukhoi is not actually producing brand new Su-35s from scratch but rather refurbish the ones that were destined for the EAF.

We saw 22 EAFSu-35s that where finished and ready to be delivered (we saw them in storage at Komsomolsk on amur air base where we counted 22 out of the 30 ordered which was the most we ever saw on satellite in 2021 I believe) and ever since then, we've seen approximately 10 (that we know of based on the videos and tweets) new Su-35Ss being introduced into operations for the VVS which in several articles, they were hinting to the fact that they could very well be reworked Su-35s from the Egyptian jets because there was really no active production seen at Sukhoi factory. And the entire Iran inheriting them seems to be yet another wishful thinking so that's most likely out the door. So chances are much greater that those 10 VVS Su-35s were in fact Egyptian jets that were re-worked to fit VVS standards including the new Khibiny pylons they now sport which are obviously new & improved ones for the RuAF.

Of course I have no proof of this but looking at the 6th or 8th Su-35S with those new, larger Khibiny pods, with pointy tips now instead of the older round tips, and new blues livery but exactly the same camo pattern, with new blurred serial #s and red stars makes all the sense they would be ex-Egyptian ones. Why build new ones from scratch if they have 30 to change comms for Russian ground control and ADS as well as a few other avionics/modification and slightly lighter blues on the same camo patterns.

Look at that huge, new Khibiny pod with a pointy tip now instead of the old rounded one. Also look at the blurred serial numbers. Exactly why no one knows how many of these have entered the VVS nor would we know if they were in fact new ones and not reworked EAF ones.

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Egyptian ones from 2021.

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Look it, they even iodized the cockpit glass canopy with the yellowish anti-radar indium tin oxide filament. Such a shame those things were souped up for the EAF would've been a hugely massive boost and our buddy Nile Pheonix thought they were like Algeria's MiG-29SMTs! Crazy to even insinuate that. Those Algerian SMTs were a disaster for MiG corporation, and it wasn't the Algerians fault whatsoever. It was MiG and these are Sukhoi, totally different animal that has nothing remotely close to do with what happened with MiG on its record. These things would've been a devastating addition to the EAF and the zionist knew it and so did the US which is why they put the stranglehold on us. Bastards! But I digress, and please show us where they produced over 28 units for the VVS, even if it's an Arabic source.

Egypt did not contract contracts F-15 and EURO FIGHTER TYPHOON deals
But it was only announced
Egypt purchased the second batch of Rafale fighters and announced that Egypt had purchased METEOR missiles

Sami I'm sorry but you just can't say this, that and the other thing without showing any links to support that. Where did you see anything that the EAF has purchased the Meteor missiles with this new batch? Please post it so we can put this all to bed once and for all. Heck I will even sing it a lullaby to put it to sleep!

The United States has conflicting interests with Egypt, and the United States is interested in it
1 - Failing the Silk Road project
2 - Stopping the Suez Canal to disrupt Chinese-European trade and raise the cost of maritime transport to China
3 - The United States is the one that uses the functional state of Israel and thus maintains its superiority

No argument from me with all of that.

For Egypt, the American sanctions do not represent a problem because Egypt is actually under American sanctions
The Americans did not succeed in luring the Egyptians. There were solutions by which America could attract the Egyptians, such as providing 48 F-15E aircraft upgraded to the F-15EX level at the cost of development for Egypt only and through aid, and this was not done.

Source please, or it didn't happen.

The Egyptian Air Force has development timings that should not be exceeded, especially since the number of fighters is not sufficient. Egypt developed more than 13 airports previously and added new airports, and these airports accommodate many fighters, and the level of threats increased after the fall of Libya and Sudan and the emergence of the GERD dam problem.
Air-to-air missiles The solutions for Egypt are many. To replace 1,300 SPARROW missiles, a tender was announced, and the news was talking about China being the most fortunate. Despite cooperation with China in missiles of various types, fighter jet deals were halted due to Egyptian technical requests.
Any Egyptian contract for Western fighters requires 4 years for delivery from now

That all makes sense, especially if the news about reaching a deal with China on the local production of the PL-15E is true, that would be ballbag busting of epic proportions since it would put TREMENDOUS pressure on Dassault & MBDA particularly. @Parallel_Politics

Egypt has been giving signals that its armament has been diversified for a long time, and Egypt’s purchase of F-15 fighters makes Egypt restricted in the over hull programs for fighters that must take place inside the United States. One of the reasons for removing the F-4E fighter early is the need for reconstruction. It is outside Egypt and the United States has closed the over hull route for it.

This is 100% true, I'll give you that for sure. Those F-4 Phantom IIs were a headache and a half with those constant trips back to the US for those overhauls you mentioned.

Therefore, what will Egypt do when it purchases F-15 fighters, as they have begun to go out of service in the United States?

Where did you hear that? It's the opposite, the USAF is retiring a bunch of older, legacy Eagles (primarily the F-15C) and is introducing 104 new F-15EXs into the US air force along with more F-35s. See below.

The service plans to retire 801 tactical fighter aircraft over the next five years while bringing on 345 new F-35s and F-15EXs.

You see, you have to bring sources ya Sami to support your argument ya basha.

Consequently, the same thing applies: the SU-35 fighters were purchased at a price of 2850, then an additional 550 million dollars was added for modernization, as well as the ammunition packages, which are really large, so that Egypt can obtain the volume of ammunition and equipment that Egypt contracted for in the SU-35.

Source pleeeaaase, please bring any source so I/we can read it. I searched all the Egyptian sources and found nothing of the sort and am really wondering where you get this information from. We cannot take it seriously unless you can verify it, habib alby and I'm not talking about FACECRAP posts. Even state media releases would be fine for me but I'm pretty sure I've been following most of those and saw nothing of the sort.

The deal for 30 Rafale fighters is at a price of 4.5 billion dollars, in addition to the cost of ammunition, which is not less than 2 billion dollars.

Again, sources please. You're telling me Egypt agreed to buy these next 30 Rafales for $4.5 billion PLUS what should be a HUUUGEAH weapons package for another $2.0 billion for a total of $6.5 billion?! Either that's absurdly high or they're getting 1000 Meteors and MICA NGs and 1000 SCALPs plus 1000 ASM HAMMER PGMS. I hope that's the case because if those numbers are right and we don't see a single Meteor......A7A!
 
This is true, but where is there any indication that they're still available?



Where did you get this "more than 28" number from? Sorry but there is no official release by the VVS suggesting any number. As a matter of fact, they even purposely blur the serial numbers on the new jets they introduce into operations specifically so that the enemy or anyone else (hint hint US/NATO/UKRAINE lool) has no idea exactly how many new Su-35Ss are being put into operation. Makes all the sense in times of war you want to avoid giving any unnecessary intel to your enemies, especially the likes of the aforementioned. You can see the blurred serial numbers in the pics below of newly introduced Su-35Ss into the VVS just 3 weeks ago.

And that is exactly why there is no way to know Sukhoi produce a number over 28 units. Instead, it's much more plausible that they are in fact reworked EAF jets. Considering Russia's embroiled war they claim is an SMO, they didn't even exhibit any aircraft in this year's Victory Day parade except a few Su-25s and no armor except a couple T-34s and the huge ICBMs they bring out every year. Not even a single T-14 Armata.

Many are saying it's because people complained last year that there was a war, and they shouldn't be flaunting stuff while soldiers are dying so Putin did exactly that, limited the showing off.

I happen to also think that the war is a financial & logistical burden on the Russian armed forces which makes even more sense that Sukhoi is not actually producing brand new Su-35s from scratch but rather refurbish the ones that were destined for the EAF.

We saw 22 EAFSu-35s that where finished and ready to be delivered (we saw them in storage at Komsomolsk on amur air base where we counted 22 out of the 30 ordered which was the most we ever saw on satellite in 2021 I believe) and ever since then, we've seen approximately 10 (that we know of based on the videos and tweets) new Su-35Ss being introduced into operations for the VVS which in several articles, they were hinting to the fact that they could very well be reworked Su-35s from the Egyptian jets because there was really no active production seen at Sukhoi factory. And the entire Iran inheriting them seems to be yet another wishful thinking so that's most likely out the door. So chances are much greater that those 10 VVS Su-35s were in fact Egyptian jets that were re-worked to fit VVS standards including the new Khibiny pylons they now sport which are obviously new & improved ones for the RuAF.

Of course I have no proof of this but looking at the 6th or 8th Su-35S with those new, larger Khibiny pods, with pointy tips now instead of the older round tips, and new blues livery but exactly the same camo pattern, with new blurred serial #s and red stars makes all the sense they would be ex-Egyptian ones. Why build new ones from scratch if they have 30 to change comms for Russian ground control and ADS as well as a few other avionics/modification and slightly lighter blues on the same camo patterns.

Look at that huge, new Khibiny pod with a pointy tip now instead of the old rounded one. Also look at the blurred serial numbers. Exactly why no one knows how many of these have entered the VVS nor would we know if they were in fact new ones and not reworked EAF ones.

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Egyptian ones from 2021.

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Look it, they even iodized the cockpit glass canopy with the yellowish anti-radar indium tin oxide filament. Such a shame those things were souped up for the EAF would've been a hugely massive boost and our buddy Nile Pheonix thought they were like Algeria's MiG-29SMTs! Crazy to even insinuate that. Those Algerian SMTs were a disaster for MiG corporation, and it wasn't the Algerians fault whatsoever. It was MiG and these are Sukhoi, totally different animal that has nothing remotely close to do with what happened with MiG on its record. These things would've been a devastating addition to the EAF and the zionist knew it and so did the US which is why they put the stranglehold on us. Bastards! But I digress, and please show us where they produced over 28 units for the VVS, even if it's an Arabic source.



Sami I'm sorry but you just can't say this, that and the other thing without showing any links to support that. Where did you see anything that the EAF has purchased the Meteor missiles with this new batch? Please post it so we can put this all to bed once and for all. Heck I will even sing it a lullaby to put it to sleep!



No argument from me with all of that.



Source please, or it didn't happen.



That all makes sense, especially if the news about reaching a deal with China on the local production of the PL-15E is true, that would be ballbag busting of epic proportions since it would put TREMENDOUS pressure on Dassault & MBDA particularly. @Parallel_Politics



This is 100% true, I'll give you that for sure. Those F-4 Phantom IIs were a headache and a half with those constant trips back to the US for those overhauls you mentioned.



Where did you hear that? It's the opposite, the USAF is retiring a bunch of older, legacy Eagles (primarily the F-15C) and is introducing 104 new F-15EXs into the US air force along with more F-35s. See below.

The service plans to retire 801 tactical fighter aircraft over the next five years while bringing on 345 new F-35s and F-15EXs.

You see, you have to bring sources ya Sami to support your argument ya basha.



Source pleeeaaase, please bring any source so I/we can read it. I searched all the Egyptian sources and found nothing of the sort and am really wondering where you get this information from. We cannot take it seriously unless you can verify it, habib alby and I'm not talking about FACECRAP posts. Even state media releases would be fine for me but I'm pretty sure I've been following most of those and saw nothing of the sort.



Again, sources please. You're telling me Egypt agreed to buy these next 30 Rafales for $4.5 billion PLUS what should be a HUUUGEAH weapons package for another $2.0 billion for a total of $6.5 billion?! Either that's absurdly high or they're getting 1000 Meteors and MICA NGs and 1000 SCALPs plus 1000 ASM HAMMER PGMS. I hope that's the case because if those numbers are right and we don't see a single Meteor......A7A!

Russia reveals a huge leap in weapons production

2024-05-25

During a meeting with directors of enterprises of the military industrial complex in Korolyov, a suburb of Moscow, Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed that his country has significantly increased military production over the past two years. This included:

Increased ammunition production 14 times.
Increasing drone production 4 times.
Increased production of armored vehicles 3.5 times.

The Russian President noted that “most defense industry companies meet government defense requests on time and with high quality, and some even exceed the specified dates.”

During his trip, Putin is scheduled to visit a number of defense production facilities, including a ground test assembly center. He will also discuss with attendees the progress made in delivering the most sought-after weapons.
 
Increased ammunition production 14 times.
Increasing drone production 4 times.
Increased production of armored vehicles 3.5 times.

No fighter jets, that's the problem, ma bro.

I realize Putin raised the annual budget by 25% which amounts to approx. $9.25 billion, but it's all mostly going to drones, ammo and armor. As a matter of fact, that's one of the major problems with MiG not being able to produce the MiG-35 (it has no money coming in) for the VVS which doesn't even seem to want to order any in significant numbers despite the new Zhuk-AE/AM AESA radar being available.

MiG is actually in trouble if it can't build any MiG-35s, it'll have to develop its new, single engine stealth prototypes but even those need money from the state which is not in a hurry to give any out for obvious reasons.

The only thing that might be their saving grace is the Su-75 is going to take Sukhoi at least another 8 - 10 years before it sees anything remotely close to production and with the VVS' Su-24s & 25s dwindling in numbers, it's only left with its large, heavy fighters in the Su-30SMs, Su-35S, Su-34 and MiG-31s, all expensive to operate for roles where smaller MiG-29s can fulfill and they already have a slew of MiG-29s for that. So MiG and the MiG-35 are in a bit of trouble ATM.

P.S. thanks for jumping in on that thread. Did you see that crap? Absolutely disgusting, isn't it?
 
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Things aren't looking good. Even Sky News Arabia reported it.
 
This is true, but where is there any indication that they're still available?



Where did you get this "more than 28" number from? Sorry but there is no official release by the VVS suggesting any number. As a matter of fact, they even purposely blur the serial numbers on the new jets they introduce into operations specifically so that the enemy or anyone else (hint hint US/NATO/UKRAINE lool) has no idea exactly how many new Su-35Ss are being put into operation. Makes all the sense in times of war you want to avoid giving any unnecessary intel to your enemies, especially the likes of the aforementioned. You can see the blurred serial numbers in the pics below of newly introduced Su-35Ss into the VVS just 3 weeks ago.

And that is exactly why there is no way to know Sukhoi produce a number over 28 units. Instead, it's much more plausible that they are in fact reworked EAF jets. Considering Russia's embroiled war they claim is an SMO, they didn't even exhibit any aircraft in this year's Victory Day parade except a few Su-25s and no armor except a couple T-34s and the huge ICBMs they bring out every year. Not even a single T-14 Armata.

Many are saying it's because people complained last year that there was a war, and they shouldn't be flaunting stuff while soldiers are dying so Putin did exactly that, limited the showing off.

I happen to also think that the war is a financial & logistical burden on the Russian armed forces which makes even more sense that Sukhoi is not actually producing brand new Su-35s from scratch but rather refurbish the ones that were destined for the EAF.

We saw 22 EAFSu-35s that where finished and ready to be delivered (we saw them in storage at Komsomolsk on amur air base where we counted 22 out of the 30 ordered which was the most we ever saw on satellite in 2021 I believe) and ever since then, we've seen approximately 10 (that we know of based on the videos and tweets) new Su-35Ss being introduced into operations for the VVS which in several articles, they were hinting to the fact that they could very well be reworked Su-35s from the Egyptian jets because there was really no active production seen at Sukhoi factory. And the entire Iran inheriting them seems to be yet another wishful thinking so that's most likely out the door. So chances are much greater that those 10 VVS Su-35s were in fact Egyptian jets that were re-worked to fit VVS standards including the new Khibiny pylons they now sport which are obviously new & improved ones for the RuAF.

Of course I have no proof of this but looking at the 6th or 8th Su-35S with those new, larger Khibiny pods, with pointy tips now instead of the older round tips, and new blues livery but exactly the same camo pattern, with new blurred serial #s and red stars makes all the sense they would be ex-Egyptian ones. Why build new ones from scratch if they have 30 to change comms for Russian ground control and ADS as well as a few other avionics/modification and slightly lighter blues on the same camo patterns.

Look at that huge, new Khibiny pod with a pointy tip now instead of the old rounded one. Also look at the blurred serial numbers. Exactly why no one knows how many of these have entered the VVS nor would we know if they were in fact new ones and not reworked EAF ones.

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Egyptian ones from 2021.

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Look it, they even iodized the cockpit glass canopy with the yellowish anti-radar indium tin oxide filament. Such a shame those things were souped up for the EAF would've been a hugely massive boost and our buddy Nile Pheonix thought they were like Algeria's MiG-29SMTs! Crazy to even insinuate that. Those Algerian SMTs were a disaster for MiG corporation, and it wasn't the Algerians fault whatsoever. It was MiG and these are Sukhoi, totally different animal that has nothing remotely close to do with what happened with MiG on its record. These things would've been a devastating addition to the EAF and the zionist knew it and so did the US which is why they put the stranglehold on us. Bastards! But I digress, and please show us where they produced over 28 units for the VVS, even if it's an Arabic source.



Sami I'm sorry but you just can't say this, that and the other thing without showing any links to support that. Where did you see anything that the EAF has purchased the Meteor missiles with this new batch? Please post it so we can put this all to bed once and for all. Heck I will even sing it a lullaby to put it to sleep!



No argument from me with all of that.



Source please, or it didn't happen.



That all makes sense, especially if the news about reaching a deal with China on the local production of the PL-15E is true, that would be ballbag busting of epic proportions since it would put TREMENDOUS pressure on Dassault & MBDA particularly. @Parallel_Politics



This is 100% true, I'll give you that for sure. Those F-4 Phantom IIs were a headache and a half with those constant trips back to the US for those overhauls you mentioned.



Where did you hear that? It's the opposite, the USAF is retiring a bunch of older, legacy Eagles (primarily the F-15C) and is introducing 104 new F-15EXs into the US air force along with more F-35s. See below.

The service plans to retire 801 tactical fighter aircraft over the next five years while bringing on 345 new F-35s and F-15EXs.

You see, you have to bring sources ya Sami to support your argument ya basha.



Source pleeeaaase, please bring any source so I/we can read it. I searched all the Egyptian sources and found nothing of the sort and am really wondering where you get this information from. We cannot take it seriously unless you can verify it, habib alby and I'm not talking about FACECRAP posts. Even state media releases would be fine for me but I'm pretty sure I've been following most of those and saw nothing of the sort.



Again, sources please. You're telling me Egypt agreed to buy these next 30 Rafales for $4.5 billion PLUS what should be a HUUUGEAH weapons package for another $2.0 billion for a total of $6.5 billion?! Either that's absurdly high or they're getting 1000 Meteors and MICA NGs and 1000 SCALPs plus 1000 ASM HAMMER PGMS. I hope that's the case because if those numbers are right and we don't see a single Meteor......A7A!

You have a big problem, basing your opinion based on the information available to you
The Russians announced a doubling of production of SU-35 fighters

Foreign sources announced that the Russians doubled the fighter assembly line from 11 fighters at one time to 16 at one time.
The Egyptian order had already ended before May 2022. The United States has taken out large numbers of F-15C/D fighters and has already taken out F-15E fighters. You want me to send you the information because you do not want to research before you are denied. You must urge, read and learn until you build a sound opinion.

Generally
These sources are related to the increase and expansion of Russian production lines
Increase production to 200 fighters

Russia may scale up production to exceed 200 Su-35 Flankers




Expansion of production lines in the past

In 2020, we generally observed two planes at the Su-35 factory. The capacity for plane storage significantly increased in 2021, accommodating 11 to 16 planes at any given time.
You also see that the expansion of production lines took place some time before the Ukrainian war




The Russians have not stopped receiving the SU-35 fighter defenses in the years 2022, 2023 and 2023. Therefore, the planes are outside the factory hangars and their numbers do not mean that they are real production, but rather those that have not been received or are under development.

Following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, our system detected a surge in Su-35 plane production. By April of that year, the count had risen to 19 planes. Remarkably, by October, this number had soared to 30 fighter planes, all conveniently aligned next to the assembly buildings.
Satellite Watch: Su-35 production surges despite microchip ban Photo credit: Space Know

This trend continued in 2023, as satellite images revealed 31 Su-35 planes at the factory in September. The most recent photograph, taken in October 2023, displays 29 planes, all primed and ready to soar into the blue yonder.

That is, simply how can the deliveries continue and the numbers also increase? The news above shows that the production rate is 2 aircraft per month.


To explain simply, the Russians say in April 2024, number 2
In May, they received 2 SU-35 aircraft, meaning the production rate is clear


As for what you say, that the Russians are refurbishing the SU-35 fighters sold to Egypt for the Russian Air Force to receive, there is no evidence for this opinion, if the sources clarify that the production lines have already been expanded and that the chip ban did not prevent the increase in production. Your mind is standing on the planes outside the hangars, and the Russians were not surrendering the fighters. In defenses during the past years 2022, 2023 and 2024, why are the Russians inside the production lines? Every visit of Russian officials there is a plane in the production lines. So the matter is the opposite of what you expect. You are asking me to follow up on every plane that leaves the production line and bring a source as if I am a Russian official. The Russians themselves are an eastern country that does not announce information. All they want from the media is to show that deliveries are increasing
If the Russians lost like 8 SU-35 fighters, then in reality they received more, and the fifth order is in the delivery phase, that is, there are simply unannounced orders. Another matter, there was a schedule of deliveries until the year 2024, which includes 64 aircraft for customers, scheduled for the year 2021, of which the Egyptian order is 32 aircraft.

The delivery schedule for SU-35 fighters is available through platforms. For example, in 2023, we will find 4 to 5 batches that have already been delivered.




The topic: Egypt signed an insurance contract for 550 million dollars. This was announced years ago and is linked to the two-state agreement. Each country carries fighters with the other country. Between Russia and Egypt in general, I will search for what is available and I will send it.

5 BATCHES IN 2023


MAY 2024 BATCH

2022

Seven Su-35S fighters. According to available information, in 2022, the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant named after Y.A. Gagarin handed over seven Su-35S fighters to the Russian Aerospace Forces.

On September 9, 2022, KnAAZ delivered the first three Su-35S fighters of its 2022 production program - aircraft with blue tail numbers "01", "02" and "03". They became the final aircraft under the third contract with the UAC concluded on August 25, 2020 during the Army-2020 International Military-Technical Forum by the Russian Ministry of Defense for the supply, apparently, of only six Su-35S fighters. These three Su-35S entered the 116th Training Center for Combat Use of the 185th Center for Combat Training and Combat Use of Fighter Aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces at the Privolzhsky airfield in the Astrakhan region, becoming the first Su-35S aircraft as part of this Center. Earlier in December 2021, KnAAZ delivered the first three Su-35S aircraft under this 2020 contract, which became part of the 4th Red Banner Center for Military Tests and Training of Personnel of the Chkalov Aerospace Forces of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation at the Lipetsk airfield.

Four more Su-35S built in 2022 were handed over to KnAAZ of the Russian Aerospace Forces in early December 2022. The tail numbers of the aircraft in the distributed video and photo materials were retouched, however, according to available information, apparently these aircraft have blue tail numbers "04", "05", "06" and "07". Based on this line of numbers, it can be assumed that these aircraft also became part of the 116th Training Center for Combat Use of the 185th Center for Combat Training and Combat Use of Fighter Aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces at the Privolzhsky airfield in the Astrakhan region.

Presumably, these are the first four Su-35S fighters manufactured as part of the fourth contract concluded in 2021 by the UAC for the supply of Su-35S aircraft to the Russian Ministry of Defense. It is possible that this contract includes 24 aircraft with delivery until 2024.
Prior to that, under two previous contracts in 2009 and 2015, the Russian Aerospace Forces received 98 serial Su-35S aircraft from 2012 to 2020. Thus, the total number of serial Su-35S received by the Russian Ministry of Defense now amounts to 108 units.


This is in addition to export aircraft


Regarding the retirement of F-15 aircraft



Regarding the retirement of F-15 aircraft

57 F-15 fighters were retired this year
The Air Force also wants to retire 57 F-15 C and D fighters. Some of those Eagle jets are around four decades old, and are reaching the end of their lives. The Air Force plans to bring on new F-35s, as well as newly-made F-15EX Eagle II fighters from Boeing, to replace those retiring fighters.


The aircraft will be retired in 2022
The Fiscal 2022 National Defense Authorization Act allowed the Air Force to retire 48 F-15C/Ds and 47 Lockheed Martin [LMT] F-16C/Ds. The approved F-15C/D and F-16C/D retirements in fiscal 2022 were to bring the fighter inventory down from 2,094 to 1,999 – just above the level required for an Air Force justification of planned fighter

reductions.


48 F-15 UHL aircraft retired 2021/2022


F-15E retirements
Congress may stymie Air Force plan to start retiring F-15Es


The service aims to save $2.9 billion by getting rid of 119 fighter jets.


You say it is strange that America did not succeed in supplying F-15E fighters to Egypt. I am not asked to prove that, at least nothing happened, but rather it is evidence that what I am saying is true.


If you want to prove what everyone knows, how much you understand things. You show you every word in Egypt. This is not a method of discussion. Also, for everything you say, you must provide evidence for it.

How much is Egypt's purchase of the Rafale worth?


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Again, sources please. You're telling me Egypt agreed to buy these next 30 Rafales for $4.5 billion PLUS what should be a HUUUGEAH weapons package for another $2.0 billion for a total of $6.5 billion?! Either that's absurdly high or they're getting 1000 Meteors and MICA NGs and 1000 SCALPs plus 1000 ASM HAMMER PGMS. I hope that's the case because if those numbers are right and we don't see a single Meteor......A7A! ,

واضح انك تربية وسخة اية لاسفالة والحقارة الى بتقولها دى
اتربى يا عدم الادب والتربية والاصل الكلمة دى تقوله لامك لما تعرفك من ابوك خاجة وسخة

An ammunition package worth 2 billion dollars makes sense

Meteor’s last quoted cost was for India in 2022 at $3.2m per missile.

Each missile costs approximately 2.6 million Euro (about 3M USD).


the price of the METEOR missile exceeds 3 million dollars

The price for the MICA-NG version in development reaches one million dollars, so Egypt's factories are limited to the MICA missile

MICA = 2,160,000 EUR (French National Assembly report, program unit cost as of 2003) / 1,118,000 EUR (French National Assembly report, production unit cost as of 1999)The price for the MICA-NG version in development reaches one 6 million dollars, so Egypt’s requirements for the MICA missile are limited
You ignorant person, the price of the METEOR missile exceeds 3 million dollars


MICA = 2,160,000 EUR (French National Assembly report, program unit cost as of 2003) / 1,118,000 EUR (French National Assembly report, production unit cost as of 1999)
The price for the MICA-NG version in development reaches one million dollars, so Egypt’s requirements for the MICA missile are limited

France Ramps Up Support for Ukraine with Delivery of 600 Precision-Guided AASM Bombs in 2024.​


The cost of the AASM program, including the development and delivery of 2,348 kits, is estimated at €846 million, with a per-weapon cost of around $300,000. This cost is significantly higher than comparable American JDAM kits, mainly due to lower production volumes. However, economies of scale could potentially lower the cost of the French munition if larger contracts are signed.


Added to this is the cost of maintenance units for these missiles, so very simply the prices of ammunition reach huge numbers. Being ignorant does not allow people like you to contemplate the lack of education in the responses. We do not work with those who lack education and literature.
 
واضح انك تربية وسخة اية لاسفالة والحقارة الى بتقولها دى
اتربى يا عدم الادب والتربية والاصل الكلمة دى تقوله لامك لما تعرفك من ابوك خاجة وسخة
Calm down sami...he was saying it jokingly nothing more.
 
Calm down sami...he was saying it jokingly nothing more.

Thanks for jumping in and clearing up what apparently was a pretty unexpected misunderstanding by our friend, Sami. Funny thing is I never said anything except A7A! lol and that was directed at the possibility of the EAF getting ripped off if the information was true and nothing related or directed at him whatsoever. Oh well, thanks again for stepping in, PP.

واضح انك تربية وسخة اية لاسفالة والحقارة الى بتقولها دى
اتربى يا عدم الادب والتربية والاصل الكلمة دى تقوله لامك لما تعرفك من ابوك خاجة وسخة

Then to actually bring up my upbringing and mother and father and how I must've been raised and if I would use that word to my mother and that unnecessary yet typical Egyptian crap lol.

That's what you call 'flipping out over nothing and losing your mind over something that never happened or existed. Apparently you're not used to being challenged on your information and to be asked (not told but asked) to bring sources for some of the information you're talking about is beneath you or something?! Which in the grand scheme is contrary to the information that is prevalent out there, it's only normal that someone would ask you to bring sources to back up what you're saying. Especially when it comes to Meteors already being in EAF inventory when everything else points to the opposite.

Plus this is common forum etiquette in the first place, and on any forum not just this one. If someone thinks they can just blurt out information and expect all of us common folk to just believe it and go with the grain, they're sadly mistaken. Oh well, and I actually thought there was some good info there worth discussing with you EVEN challenging you about it but now I certainly know better LOL. Relax, it wasn't as bad as you took it.
 
You have a big problem, basing your opinion based on the information available to you
The Russians announced a doubling of production of SU-35 fighters

Foreign sources announced that the Russians doubled the fighter assembly line from 11 fighters at one time to 16 at one time.
The Egyptian order had already ended before May 2022. The United States has taken out large numbers of F-15C/D fighters and has already taken out F-15E fighters. You want me to send you the information because you do not want to research before you are denied. You must urge, read and learn until you build a sound opinion.

Generally
These sources are related to the increase and expansion of Russian production lines
Increase production to 200 fighters

Russia may scale up production to exceed 200 Su-35 Flankers




Expansion of production lines in the past

In 2020, we generally observed two planes at the Su-35 factory. The capacity for plane storage significantly increased in 2021, accommodating 11 to 16 planes at any given time.
You also see that the expansion of production lines took place some time before the Ukrainian war




The Russians have not stopped receiving the SU-35 fighter defenses in the years 2022, 2023 and 2023. Therefore, the planes are outside the factory hangars and their numbers do not mean that they are real production, but rather those that have not been received or are under development.

Following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, our system detected a surge in Su-35 plane production. By April of that year, the count had risen to 19 planes. Remarkably, by October, this number had soared to 30 fighter planes, all conveniently aligned next to the assembly buildings.
Satellite Watch: Su-35 production surges despite microchip ban Photo credit: Space Know

This trend continued in 2023, as satellite images revealed 31 Su-35 planes at the factory in September. The most recent photograph, taken in October 2023, displays 29 planes, all primed and ready to soar into the blue yonder.

That is, simply how can the deliveries continue and the numbers also increase? The news above shows that the production rate is 2 aircraft per month.


To explain simply, the Russians say in April 2024, number 2
In May, they received 2 SU-35 aircraft, meaning the production rate is clear


As for what you say, that the Russians are refurbishing the SU-35 fighters sold to Egypt for the Russian Air Force to receive, there is no evidence for this opinion, if the sources clarify that the production lines have already been expanded and that the chip ban did not prevent the increase in production. Your mind is standing on the planes outside the hangars, and the Russians were not surrendering the fighters. In defenses during the past years 2022, 2023 and 2024, why are the Russians inside the production lines? Every visit of Russian officials there is a plane in the production lines. So the matter is the opposite of what you expect. You are asking me to follow up on every plane that leaves the production line and bring a source as if I am a Russian official. The Russians themselves are an eastern country that does not announce information. All they want from the media is to show that deliveries are increasing
If the Russians lost like 8 SU-35 fighters, then in reality they received more, and the fifth order is in the delivery phase, that is, there are simply unannounced orders. Another matter, there was a schedule of deliveries until the year 2024, which includes 64 aircraft for customers, scheduled for the year 2021, of which the Egyptian order is 32 aircraft.

The delivery schedule for SU-35 fighters is available through platforms. For example, in 2023, we will find 4 to 5 batches that have already been delivered.




The topic: Egypt signed an insurance contract for 550 million dollars. This was announced years ago and is linked to the two-state agreement. Each country carries fighters with the other country. Between Russia and Egypt in general, I will search for what is available and I will send it.

5 BATCHES IN 2023


MAY 2024 BATCH

2022

Seven Su-35S fighters. According to available information, in 2022, the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant named after Y.A. Gagarin handed over seven Su-35S fighters to the Russian Aerospace Forces.

On September 9, 2022, KnAAZ delivered the first three Su-35S fighters of its 2022 production program - aircraft with blue tail numbers "01", "02" and "03". They became the final aircraft under the third contract with the UAC concluded on August 25, 2020 during the Army-2020 International Military-Technical Forum by the Russian Ministry of Defense for the supply, apparently, of only six Su-35S fighters. These three Su-35S entered the 116th Training Center for Combat Use of the 185th Center for Combat Training and Combat Use of Fighter Aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces at the Privolzhsky airfield in the Astrakhan region, becoming the first Su-35S aircraft as part of this Center. Earlier in December 2021, KnAAZ delivered the first three Su-35S aircraft under this 2020 contract, which became part of the 4th Red Banner Center for Military Tests and Training of Personnel of the Chkalov Aerospace Forces of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation at the Lipetsk airfield.

Four more Su-35S built in 2022 were handed over to KnAAZ of the Russian Aerospace Forces in early December 2022. The tail numbers of the aircraft in the distributed video and photo materials were retouched, however, according to available information, apparently these aircraft have blue tail numbers "04", "05", "06" and "07". Based on this line of numbers, it can be assumed that these aircraft also became part of the 116th Training Center for Combat Use of the 185th Center for Combat Training and Combat Use of Fighter Aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces at the Privolzhsky airfield in the Astrakhan region.

Presumably, these are the first four Su-35S fighters manufactured as part of the fourth contract concluded in 2021 by the UAC for the supply of Su-35S aircraft to the Russian Ministry of Defense. It is possible that this contract includes 24 aircraft with delivery until 2024.
Prior to that, under two previous contracts in 2009 and 2015, the Russian Aerospace Forces received 98 serial Su-35S aircraft from 2012 to 2020. Thus, the total number of serial Su-35S received by the Russian Ministry of Defense now amounts to 108 units.


This is in addition to export aircraft


Regarding the retirement of F-15 aircraft



Regarding the retirement of F-15 aircraft

57 F-15 fighters were retired this year
The Air Force also wants to retire 57 F-15 C and D fighters. Some of those Eagle jets are around four decades old, and are reaching the end of their lives. The Air Force plans to bring on new F-35s, as well as newly-made F-15EX Eagle II fighters from Boeing, to replace those retiring fighters.


The aircraft will be retired in 2022
The Fiscal 2022 National Defense Authorization Act allowed the Air Force to retire 48 F-15C/Ds and 47 Lockheed Martin [LMT] F-16C/Ds. The approved F-15C/D and F-16C/D retirements in fiscal 2022 were to bring the fighter inventory down from 2,094 to 1,999 – just above the level required for an Air Force justification of planned fighter

reductions.


48 F-15 UHL aircraft retired 2021/2022


F-15E retirements
Congress may stymie Air Force plan to start retiring F-15Es


The service aims to save $2.9 billion by getting rid of 119 fighter jets.


You say it is strange that America did not succeed in supplying F-15E fighters to Egypt. I am not asked to prove that, at least nothing happened, but rather it is evidence that what I am saying is true.


If you want to prove what everyone knows, how much you understand things. You show you every word in Egypt. This is not a method of discussion. Also, for everything you say, you must provide evidence for it.

How much is Egypt's purchase of the Rafale worth?


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Again, sources please. You're telling me Egypt agreed to buy these next 30 Rafales for $4.5 billion PLUS what should be a HUUUGEAH weapons package for another $2.0 billion for a total of $6.5 billion?! Either that's absurdly high or they're getting 1000 Meteors and MICA NGs and 1000 SCALPs plus 1000 ASM HAMMER PGMS. I hope that's the case because if those numbers are right and we don't see a single Meteor......A7A! ,

واضح انك تربية وسخة اية لاسفالة والحقارة الى بتقولها دى
اتربى يا عدم الادب والتربية والاصل الكلمة دى تقوله لامك لما تعرفك من ابوك خاجة وسخة

An ammunition package worth 2 billion dollars makes sense

Meteor’s last quoted cost was for India in 2022 at $3.2m per missile.

Each missile costs approximately 2.6 million Euro (about 3M USD).


the price of the METEOR missile exceeds 3 million dollars

The price for the MICA-NG version in development reaches one million dollars, so Egypt's factories are limited to the MICA missile

MICA = 2,160,000 EUR (French National Assembly report, program unit cost as of 2003) / 1,118,000 EUR (French National Assembly report, production unit cost as of 1999)The price for the MICA-NG version in development reaches one 6 million dollars, so Egypt’s requirements for the MICA missile are limited
You ignorant person, the price of the METEOR missile exceeds 3 million dollars


MICA = 2,160,000 EUR (French National Assembly report, program unit cost as of 2003) / 1,118,000 EUR (French National Assembly report, production unit cost as of 1999)
The price for the MICA-NG version in development reaches one million dollars, so Egypt’s requirements for the MICA missile are limited

France Ramps Up Support for Ukraine with Delivery of 600 Precision-Guided AASM Bombs in 2024.​


The cost of the AASM program, including the development and delivery of 2,348 kits, is estimated at €846 million, with a per-weapon cost of around $300,000. This cost is significantly higher than comparable American JDAM kits, mainly due to lower production volumes. However, economies of scale could potentially lower the cost of the French munition if larger contracts are signed.


Added to this is the cost of maintenance units for these missiles, so very simply the prices of ammunition reach huge numbers. Being ignorant does not allow people like you to contemplate the lack of education in the responses. We do not work with those who lack education and literature.
No personal insults are allowed here.. be polite..@Gomig-21 is one of the most respected Egyptian members on PDF for a long time now!..We have never heard a personal insult from him ever..
 
No personal insults are allowed here.. be polite..@Gomig-21 is one of the most respected Egyptian members on PDF for a long time now!..We have never heard a personal insult from him ever..

Thank you, SC bro. I think it was just passion overload no big deal on my end of course. I consider @Sami_1 a bro of course. Man we're all in this together and only wish the best for the old country, om el dunya, baby! :D

Yallah ya Sami, let's get back on track ya basha. I'm still gonna take you up on some of the technical stuff you said in that post, don't think you're going to get away with it.... lol.

Bottom line, if the friggin Meteor actually is in EAF stock and they're playing games with us, talk about getting pissed off royally!

Who's in charge of PR in the EAF? Does everything go through Mohammad Zaki? Gonna have to sit down with the man and have a man-to-man chitchat with the man lol.
 
One of the things, that Egyptian Armed Forces must work, is the Marketing Team during exhibition. We have some problems in it
 
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Look at 23:11 to 23:14. TAI T625 Gökbey : maybe a good replacement for the Gazelle helis. We must retire those old Gazelle or we will end up having a lot of crashes (India with Aérospatiale Alouette III etc...)
 

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