Federal cabinet gives nod to imposition of emergency in KP; summary sent to president

[Master Chief]

In other words — you have a "problem" with adult citizens (18+) of Pakistan exercising their democratic rights — but no problem at all with a military establishment repeatedly imposing their will by taking away that inalienable right from the people for the past 70+ years?

What has been achieved with these democratic rights that you speak of?

Corruption, nepotism, inefficiency, siphoning of public funds, but worst of all - incompetence in public office.

Now that last trait has been demonstrated by a number of democratically elected leaders in Pakistan, of which Khan is the WORST case. Granted, he may have been poorly advised, but any educated and rational Pakistani would have been rolling their eyes (yes, like you do every other post) at his litany of diplomatic mis-steps during his term in office. Embarrassment after embarrassment, whether he was busy meeting Vlad or shunning the Saudis. Many of us had enough semblance of shame to balk at his tomfoolery. I wonder why you and your ilk saw fit to forgive the clownery just because he was handsome enough to draw a smile from Melania?!

The nation was left scrambling to defend his embarrassments while he marched ever onwards in his egotistical state of delusion.

With even a semi-competent global representative (and this is despite all my loathing of patwaris and the Sharifs and Bhuttos), such clownery can be averted and our officials can worry less about "diplomatic damage control" and instead actually get on with their jobs.

Yes, Pakistan needs to be controlled by a benevolent, non-egotistical, functional dictatorship. To hell with the demagoguery and jhalsas of the last three decades.

 

[Meengla]

Now that last trait has been demonstrated by a number of democratically elected leaders in Pakistan, of which Khan is the WORST case. Granted, he may have been poorly advised, but any educated and rational Pakistani would have been rolling their eyes (yes, like you do every other post) at his litany of diplomatic mis-steps during his term in office. Embarrassment after embarrassment, whether he was busy meeting Vlad or shunning the Saudis. Many of us had enough semblance of shame to balk at his tomfoolery. I wonder why you and your ilk saw fit to forgive the clownery just because he was handsome enough to draw a smile from Melania?!

He even alienated the Chinese. The Chinese! No wonder the Indians love him so much. As to the Americans, I have said a lot about the war mongering machine in Washington, DC but I also know the importance of trade with America and its European allies to Pakistan's economy. Imran's dumb, cultists should study the impact of some real American sanctions on Pakistan. But then many of them are expats in their comfortable Western bubbles. Like their Messiah Khan, they couldn't care less for Pakistan.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

He sounds just like a "governor" of Palestinian Territories occupied by military of Israel

Do you seriously believe that or are just in youhtiaaa phase of life?

 

[Forsvaret]

Yes, Pakistan needs to be controlled by a benevolent, non-egotistical, functional dictatorship.

The main problem with this approach is that you want Chinese kind of "functional" dictatorship which sets the country's best interests before anything else:


Instead, you ended up with a completely non-functional military dictatorship in Pakistan which sets its own self-interests before anything else:

 

[Forsvaret]

Do you seriously believe that...

I totally DO if one is to compare what "governor" of KPK just said about Pakistanis killed by the military being "collateral damage" with how Israeli military do it with Palestinians in the occupied territories:

The film’s title itself is telling. NAZA is a military acronym for the Hebrew nezek agavi, meaning “collateral damage”. It describes the estimated number of civilians expected to die in an attack.

NAZA: harrowing documentary shows how killing in Gaza became just another day’s work

Directors Yuval Abraham and Rachel Szor offer us a look inside the systems used by the Israeli military to target Palestinians.

theconversation.com

 

[PakAl]

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

I totally DO if one is to compare what "governor" of KPK just said about Pakistanis killed by the military being "collateral damage" with how Israeli military do it with Palestinians in the occupied territories:

NAZA: harrowing documentary shows how killing in Gaza became just another day’s work

Directors Yuval Abraham and Rachel Szor offer us a look inside the systems used by the Israeli military to target Palestinians.

theconversation.com

"If the tribes stand with us, terrorism will be eradicated in three months, Mehmood Jan Babar"


If you are on side of TTP and then cry being killed in operation, shame on you.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

preparation for operation zarb-e-azb 2.0 in full swing

 

[Goenitz]

If a masjid was illegally built on a land that was not supposed to be used for that purpose, what else is the option left then? TBH, I don't know what exactly is the case. I am just pointing out one possibility.

first of all, timing matters.
Then, why was an emergency imposed? to fight terrorism! not for construction and demolishing 'illegal' buildings.
Or are they exactly doing what they meant to? like occupying prime properties themselves?

 

[Goenitz]

He even alienated the Chinese. The Chinese! N

all lies. Chinese never complained! After the regime change, local media just created that news.

 

[Master Chief]

The main problem with this approach is that you want Chinese kind of "functional" dictatorship which sets the country's best interests before anything else:
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Instead, you ended up with a completely non-functional military dictatorship in Pakistan which sets its own self-interests before anything else:
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Granted that Pakistan has a long way to go. But even China started somewhere. If we were to take the first step of simply abolishing multiparty politics, that would be a huge step in the right direction.

 

[Goenitz]

all lies. Chinese never complained! After the regime change, local media just created that news.

This is May 2022 statement. If Imran Khan wasn't in good books, they wouldn't have mentioned it.

Cite one Chinese official statement against IK.

Ambassador Nong Rong: China and Pakistan iron-clad friendship is rock-solid

 

[Goenitz]

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preparation for operation zarb-e-azb 2.0 in full swing

KPK people first expel all terrorists to avoid collateral damage (by their own army within the country).
Then PA can step in like Lords to kill/accetpt surrender from terrorists.

Then why do we need an army? If locals are that strong and macho, they would have done that themselves.

 

[Meengla]

This is May 2022 statement. If Imran Khan wasn't in good books, they wouldn't have mentioned it.

Cite one Chinese official statement against IK.

Ambassador Nong Rong: China and Pakistan iron-clad friendship is rock-solid

I had seen a credible Pakistani analyst saying he heard the Chinese ambassador to Pakistan complained about the then PM Imran Khan. Of course the Iron Clad quote you are saying would be China's public posture; they are very careful with words--actually, legendary careful.
Anyway, you can believe what you want to. But given Imran's cavalier attitude in general--such as pissing off the Saudi prince needlessly-- I'd put faith in him making the Chinese upset.

 

[Meengla]

Granted that Pakistan has a long way to go. But even China started somewhere. If we were to take the first step of simply abolishing multiparty politics, that would be a huge step in the right direction.

Ironically, that was Imran's plan: An Erdogan like system. He was working with some top Generals to retain power for at least 10 years and make drastic reforms. Maybe his intentions were good but didn't work out for him: He is not the only one in the Musical Chair politics of Pakistan. The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions...