hyperman
INT'L MOD
Will it be the Best AC carrier in the world?
Can you guys stop baiting him? I don't want to have to do cleanup again with a derailing flame war. No trolling/sarcastic teasing.
First specs of Turkish AC project
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Can you guys stop baiting him? I don't want to have to do cleanup again with a derailing flame war. No trolling/sarcastic teasing.
altafahmed
Registered Member
If you can shed some light on the geopolitical situation of Turkiye in 10-15 years? What Turkiye need to focus on today and in future?I thought Turkey was going to become superpower in 2023 and Lausanne treaty would expire
You clowns never cease to amaze me.
What will happen in the next 10-15 years? Will the Turkish poplulation reach 500 million? Will the GDP reach 15 Trillion $ ?
I swear every time I read one of your verbal masturbations I lose a few brain cells. I'm a very creative guy but I'm running out of insults at this level of stupidity.
Most of the Turkish navy is 30+ years old Junk. We're still sailing with OHP frigates in 2024. We don't have enough money for the STM MPAC but you want this mockery of an "aircraft carrier"
Why? to brag. nothing more.
@Waz
Please ban this guy for all of our sanity's sake.
hodor
Registered Member
I think it's too early for the Turkish navy to have an aircraft carrier. We don't have the aircraft to put on an aircraft carrier. We only have TB3 and Kizilelma. There is no way Kaan can land on an aircraft carrier. There are no Tf-2000 air destroyers to protect the carrier.
In 20 years, we may think of an aircraft carrier, but such statements now call into question the seriousness of the Turkish defense industry.
In 20 years, we may think of an aircraft carrier, but such statements now call into question the seriousness of the Turkish defense industry.
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LegionnairE
Guest
Turkey is very volatile and unpredictable and nobody knows whatpost-erdogan political atmosphere will be like but if the current trends continue, I'm a bit pessimistic.
On the military side of things, right now the Turkish military is still run by people who were educated in the old system of military high schools and war academies. When that changes I expect a sharp drop in officer quality.
On the defence industry side, we can see how land systems development stalled and that branch of the industry became very stagnant. I expect the same in other fields. Once we start to believe we're good at something, we move on to other things. We don't keep innovating.
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Bigda_Jatt
Registered Member
We have made one for our nuclear submarine, 4 of them would generate enough to run a 65000 tons AC, our problem is the money part.
The carrier will gulp up $10-$12 Billion dollars
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LegionnairE
Guest
a poor country like India has no business spending that kind of money on "power projection"
Especially if it's STOBAR garbage I'm sorry.
RealNapster
Elite Member
Turkey can also "export" aircraft carriers to countries like KSA, UAE, Malaysia etc..
Bigda_Jatt
Registered Member
Bigda_Jatt
Registered Member
Arey sharma mat apna naam bhi likh de, kabhi na kabhi toh kahreedega na?
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LegionnairE
Guest
IMHO STOBAR = Garbage ...simple as
It can go down in a single torpedo salvo and take 40-50 planes with it along with 500 people on board. And what capability does it bring? planes taking off with limited fuel and payload, barely good enough for CAP missions.
India should invest into the well being of their own people.
So should Pakistan but at least I can understand Pakistan's concerns, they have borders with Afghanistan, a lawless hellhole and India a much bigger country with historic animosity.
What is India afraid of? China? China won't even attack Taiwan.
KSA hates us, UAE isn't interested in an AC (do they even have enough sailors to crew one?) and Malaysia has half the GDP of Turkey.
All of our customers are relatively poor countries.
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hyperman
INT'L MOD
No They don't.
UAE-Navy: Interest in procuring Turkish TCG Anadolu
The UAE is said to be interested in the Turkish TCG Anadolu amphibious assault ship.A UAE Navy delegation toured the ship while it was docked at the Tuzla shipyard in Istanbul in July 2023.Several asp...
www.tacticalreport.com
One of the reasons as to why they are interested in the Turkish design is b/c of the drone carrier concept, that as of right now is unique. TB3 sales have been discussed as well.
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LegionnairE
Guest
Yes they doNo They don't.
UAE-Navy: Interest in procuring Turkish TCG Anadolu
The UAE is said to be interested in the Turkish TCG Anadolu amphibious assault ship.A UAE Navy delegation toured the ship while it was docked at the Tuzla shipyard in Istanbul in July 2023.Several asp...
One of the reasons as to why they are interested in the Turkish design is b/c of the drone carrier concept, that as of right now is unique. TB3 sales have been discussed as well.
And we still haven't landed a TB3 on TCG Anadolu while Americans and brits have Already done it so...
hyperman
INT'L MOD
They don't. they just bought $3-5 Billion worth of Bayraktar drones.
Even when relations were bad, the beef was between Turkey and UAE, not really much with Saudi.
The TB3 will take off eventually from tcg anadolu, It should happen in the coming months this year. I wouldn't be too worried, UAE already operates the TB2 its more likely to go with the TB3 for commonality.
RealNapster
Elite Member
Those that are poor won't stay poor for ever. And those who are not on good terms may turnout to be good friends in future. In geopolitics and with this much volatile global political environment you can't be certain of anything.
But then again we are talking of a future that may not occur
altafahmed
Registered Member
What are the current trends that makes you pessimistic?
What I can see is Erdogan is following sovereign foreign policy which can only get better in both ways
1 if post-Erdogan policy shift to more appeasing toward west, Turkiye will get good incentives
2 if the same policy continues, sovereign policy is always a good thing to have.
