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[Persian Gulf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1806653576149688569

Fabian estimates that this test occurred between July-November 2011

 

[Immortals]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1806653576149688569

Fabian estimates that this test occurred between July-November 2011

It’s been 13 years. That engine is already obsolete in the world of tech.

 

[Persian Gulf]

It’s been 13 years. That engine is already obsolete in the world of tech.

for a SLV or ICBM it is not obsolete if it can perform its job

main bulk of American Russian Israeli ICBMs use old engines from the 1960s-70s. this team was far ahead of the curve in Iran and performed miracles for their time and available equipment

 

[jauk]

It’s been 13 years. That engine is already obsolete in the world of tech.

You make a false assumption that Iran has stood still.

 

[Immortals]

You make a false assumption that Iran has stood still.

I am inferring this obsession with Ghaem needs to end. Iran has more advanced engines as satellite imagery of burn marks outside of Shahrud have shown.

Yet people here sit and talk about Qaem as if it was Iran’s Avangard.

Let’s move on people. Tehrani is dead and different teams have picked up the mantle and moved in their own directions.

 

[Immortals]

for a SLV or ICBM it is not obsolete if it can perform its job

For an SLV it’s a stupid design. Cryogenic engines are future of SLVs and large SLVs are the future as you can see with SpaceX, Blue Origin, UAL, and others. He had an SLV design in mind to take 13 tons to LEO that was his next project. Not sure who took that project on or if it went to dustbin.

And again Ghaem for ICBM is a stupid design. Look at your typical ICBM and the diameter it is and the TELs they require to keep them road mobile (a key component for any survivability). Ghaem wouldn’t have made a good ICBM. If your goal is to build an advanced one thst is. Or else if your goal is to to slap enough stages together to build a missile to reach ICBM, well that can be done already.

main bulk of American Russian Israeli ICBMs use old engines from the 1960s-70s. this team was far ahead of the curve in Iran and performed miracles for their time and available equipment

Apples and oranges.

America and Russia started building missiles in 50’s a whopping 50 years before Iran started the Shahab-3 mass production line. Van Buren the father of Nazi’s BM program and the V-1 and V-2 missiles was their head of development after his capture. So adding his knowledge means America really had BM tech knowledge dating back to 1930’s from captured Nazi scientists. Iran still isn’t that close to Minuteman engine tech btw.

Russia has upgraded their ICBMs with Avangard and America is in the process, but it’s expensive process and not a dire need.

Lastly, for Russia and America (America in particular) missiles are not the obbessive central component of their defense doctrine like it is for Iran. Both those former countries really on the troika doctrine (land, sea, and air) to deliver their nuclear weapons, thus ensuring MAD doctrine remains intact via second strike capability. Hence they aren’t in a rush to upgrade their ICBM missiles like for example NK is.

Iran nearly their entire defense doctrine relies on Axis of Resistance and their BM/CM arsenal.

 

[Flames In The Desert]

Exclusive: Satellite photos show Iran expanding missile production
By Jonathan Landay and Parisa Hafezi

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/satellite-photos-show-iran-expanding-missile-production-sources-say-2024-07-08/
WASHINGTON/DUBAI, July 7 (Reuters) - Recent satellite imagery shows major expansions at two key Iranian ballistic missile facilities that two American researchers assessed are for boosting missile production, a conclusion confirmed by three senior Iranian officials.

The enlargement of the sites follows an October 2022 deal in which Iran agreed to provide missiles to Russia, which has been seeking them for its war against Ukraine. Tehran also supplies missiles to Yemen's Houthi rebels and the Lebanese militia Hezbollah, both members of the Iran-backed Axis of Resistance against Israel, according to U.S. officials.

Images taken by commercial satellite firm Planet Labs of the Modarres military base in March and the Khojir missile production complex in April show more than 30 new buildings at the two sites, both of which are located near Tehran.

The images, reviewed by Reuters, show many of the structures are surrounded by large dirt berms. Such earthworks are associated with missile production and are designed to stop a blast in one building from detonating highly combustible materials in nearby structures, said Jeffrey Lewis of the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey.

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The expansions began at Khojir in August last year and at Modarres in October, Lewis said, based on images of the sites.
Iran's arsenal is already the largest in the Middle East, estimated at more than 3,000 missiles, including models designed to carry conventional and nuclear warheads, experts say.
Three Iranian officials, who asked not to be identified because they were not authorized to speak publicly, confirmed that Modarres and Khojir are being expanded to boost production of conventional ballistic missiles.

"Why shouldn't we?" said one official.
A second Iranian official said some of the new buildings would also allow a doubling of drone manufacturing. Drones and missile components would be sold to Russia, drones would be provided to the Houthis and missiles to Hezbollah, the source added.
Reuters was unable independently to confirm the Iranian officials' comments.
Iran's mission to the United Nations did not respond to a Reuters request for comment on the expansion of the complexes. Tehran has previously denied providing drones and missiles to Russia and the Houthis. Hezbollah's media office did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Houthi spokesperson Mohammed Abdulsalam said a boost in Iran's weapons manufacturing would not have any impact in Yemen because the Houthis develop and manufacture aircraft independent of Iran.
Lewis analyzed the Planet Labs imagery with Decker Eveleth, an associate research analyst at CNA, a Washington thinktank, as part of a Middlebury project that monitors Iranian missile infrastructure.
"We know that Russia is on the hunt for low-cost missile capabilities, and it has gone to Iran and North Korea," said Lewis.

Moscow and Pyongyang have denied the transfer of North Korean missiles to Russia. The Russian embassy in Washington and North Korea's mission to the United Nations did not immediately respond to requests for comment for this story.

The two U.S. researchers said in separate interviews that it was not clear from the photos what kinds of missiles would be produced at the new facilities, which still appeared to be under construction.

Any increase in Tehran's missile or drone production would be concerning to the United States, which has said that Iranian drones help sustain Russia's assault on Ukrainian cities, and to Israel as it fends off attacks from Iran-backed groups, including Hezbollah.

The U.S. Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment on the reseachers' analysis.

A U.S. National Security Council spokesperson declined to confirm their assessment, adding that the United States has implemented various measures, including sanctions, intended to constrain Iranian missile and drone production and exports.

Reuters in February reported that Iran had sent surface-to-surface ballistic missiles to Russia for use against Ukraine. Iran denied providing the weapons. Washington said it could not confirm the transfers but it assumed Tehran intended to provide missiles to Moscow.

NEW BUILDINGS, DIRT BERMS​

Shahid Modarres and Khojir are overseen by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), the elite paramilitary organization that plays a central role in Iran's missile and nuclear programs. It controls large segments of the Iranian economy and answers directly to Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

The complexes have long been associated with the development and production of Iran's short- and medium-range ballistic missiles and rockets for the country's space program.

On Nov. 12, 2011, a massive explosion destroyed a large swath of Shadid Modarres associated with solid fuel missiles, killing 17 IRGC officers. They included Gen. Hassan Moqaddam, regarded by Iran as the "architect" of its ballistic missile program.

Construction at Shahid Modarres, which began again after the 2011 explosion, accelerated last year, the second Iranian official said.
"I think the Iranians may have chosen not to berm the buildings (before the explosion) because they didn’t want to draw attention to them," said Lewis. "They learned the hard way."

Eveleth and Lewis said the sites' long history with Iran's missile program – Shahid Modarres is considered by some experts as its birthplace - and the numerous dirt berms support their assessment that Tehran is expanding ballistic missile production.

"When we see where you basically have an entire production line that is bermed like that, that's usually missiles," said Eveleth.

 

[Flotilla]

Moscow and Pyongyang have denied the transfer of North Korean missiles to Russia. The Russian embassy in Washington and North Korea's mission to the United Nations did not immediately respond to requests for comment for this story.

That´s something questionable. AFAIK Russia has used in combat in Ukraine North Korean ballistic missiles (KN23)

El misil balístico KN-23 de Corea del Norte voló 460 kilómetros y alcanzó Zaporizhzhia en Ucrania. – Galaxia Militar

Al parecer, en la región ucraniana de Kharkiv se han descubierto restos de un misil balístico norcoreano KN-23 [Hwasong-11Ga]. Los fragmentos encontrados pertenecen al extremo de la cola del misil

galaxiamilitar.es

But we don´t have any evidence of using any Fateh solid or even older liquid versions of iranian ballistic missiles in Ukraine. Evidence is 0. Even not launchers detected. And it is more than a year telling everybody that Russia is purchasing ballistic missiles from Iran.

 

[Immortals]

But we don´t have any evidence of using any Fateh solid or even older liquid versions of iranian ballistic missiles in Ukraine. Evidence is 0. Even not launchers detected. And it is more than a year telling everybody that Russia is purchasing ballistic missiles from Iran.

Giving drones with 25KG/warhead and giving missiles with 500-750KG are two very different things.

Iran seems very reluctant to take that step. I’m sure it has been discussed with Russia. But for Iran to begin delivering BMs to Russia, it would need to receive something worth the political blowback (and possible fake war crime charges) that the west will bring on Iran.

Just delivering some SU-35s isn’t enough to start BM supply. Iran likely has a much higher price tag for such an exchange in mind (or at least I hope they do) and not sure Russia will meet it.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I think I shared news of a second missile mass production site identified in satellite imagery but it was lost. here it is again:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1812181526936780868

 

[Persian Gulf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1814325039874854983

new underground missile mega city in central Iran

mountain height offers as much as 500m of protection

 

[Mehdipersian]

Iran anti ship ballistic missiles in combat:

H I Sutton - Covert Shores

 

[Persian Gulf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1816583530471711114

Yemeni anti-ship ballistic missile

Likely anti-ship version of Fateh-100 (Khalij-e Fars)

 

[lightning f57]

So far the anti ship ballistic missiles seem ineffective. US and genocide supporting allies have managed to deal with them without any damage.

 

[Persian Gulf]

So far the anti ship ballistic missiles seem ineffective. US and genocide supporting allies have managed to deal with them without any damage.

several have impacted the commercial ships