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7 Div ops...
Firm base was established by 65 Brigade during night 5/6 Sep....this way 7 Div lost surprise....moreover it was a time consuming process of establishing a firm base...even though there was no requirement of making it in INDIAN territory which was already secured....
48 Bde took the lead, advanced and contacted PA defences on Hudiara Drain...later capturing Nurpur and Hudiara...however Hudiara bridge was partially blown by PA.
On 7 Sep, 65 Bde took over the advance from 48 Bde, with 4 Sikh in the lead....however, there was a communication failure within 48 Bde and its units....Barki was captured on 10 Sep, however, Barki bridge was destroyed by the defenders.....
7 Div offensive then stopped, with troops moving towards Khem Karan....
7 Div ops...
Firm base was established by 65 Brigade during night 5/6 Sep....this way 7 Div lost surprise....moreover it was a time consuming process of establishing a firm base...even though there was no requirement of making it in INDIAN territory which was already secured....
48 Bde took the lead, advanced and contacted PA defences on Hudiara Drain...later capturing Nurpur and Hudiara...however Hudiara bridge was partially blown by PA.
On 7 Sep, 65 Bde took over the advance from 48 Bde, with 4 Sikh in the lead....however, there was a communication failure within 48 Bde and its units....Barki was captured on 10 Sep, however, Barki bridge was destroyed by the defenders.....
7 Div offensive then stopped, with troops moving towards Khem Karan....
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Noted.There was and there will be no rules of engagement btw both..... Pakistan initiated wars to capture specific areas. Indians attack or responded or fight against us with this faith or ideology "let entirely remove Pakistan from the map". Both sides failed.... In the bigger picture, with a 1X4 ratio, the biggest failure of India despite large force, failed to completely destroy Pakistan.
Not in 47-48. Indian troops fought to vacate aggression, and to recover those parts of the state of J&K that had been lost. Not enough a peanut shell fell outside these areas.Indians attack or responded or fight against us with this faith or ideology "let entirely remove Pakistan from the map"
You are 110% right about the SSG raids. Indians had to move entire formations for search and mop-up/pacification efforts when the airborne attacks were carried out. Having actually spoken to some of the SSG officers who took part in these raids, this was the one common theme they all mentioned. I.e. the effect of their tactical operations (the purpose of which was to neutralize IAF assets on the ground) was more on the strategic side as Indians had to rebalance the employment of quite a few of their formations thus improving the situation for Pakistani defenses. So these attacks were well worth the immense sacrifice all these officers and ORs made in this Kamikazi mission.
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Many thanks.
It did seem redundant for 65 Brigade to create a firm base on a flank with so much activity giving away their intentions just to lunge for the bridge the next morning. The fierce fire received by 48 Brigade constituent battalions 6/8 Gorkhas and 19 Maratha LI the next morning was only to be expected. It is also a painful thing reading again and again of frontal attacks delivered without artillery support (or none mentioned) or tank fire as a substitute, some in broad daylight. Also, everyone seems to have marched to their targets all the way; not just the last mile, but all the way from their rail-head.
This has been covered, on the lines narrated; I started last night arranging the material segregating 47-48, 65 and 71, with your remarks on these as introductions to each chapter. The discussion on the individual actions is being presented as an afterword to each chapter. Once it looks fair and equitable and balanced on both sides, I will try - this in the medium time range after all the narrative is there in PDF - to put in citations; for which purpose, I have asked jbgt90 for the books he has to be sent to me urgently.
Naturally my focus is on finishing the narrative; now 4 Mountain Division and I Corps at hand, all the rest described above to follow, once we have your critique of actions narrated.
A few words about the defending PA 11 Division.THE TERRAIN
The layout of the actions that took place can be described simply, and concentrating on the Indian side, starts with the town of Valtoha, where 4 Mountain Division had set up HQ.
62 Brigade was mustered 10 to 12 kms forward from Valtoha, so these intimidating distances from Valtoha need to be reduced by the radial distance between Valtoha and their locations; very approximately –
- About 22 kms away, in the West by South West direction, lay Kasur in Pakistan, one of the primary targets.
- Waigal, on the Rohi Nullah, was 14 kms away from Valtoha, in a West by North West direction;
- Bedian was 17.5 kms away, north west of Valtoha.
- Ballanwala, on the India-Pakistan border was 15 kms away, West by South West, more or less in the exact same compass bearing as Kasur, further behind within Pakistan.
Waigal - 3 kms
Bedian - 6.5 kms
Ballanwala - 4 kms
When we looked at 7 Division, we were faced with an additional obstacle in front of the Ichhogil Canal, the Hudiara water obstacle. Here, too, we have the Rohi Nulla, or the Kasur Nalla. This Nulla came in from India into Pakistan, and flowed parallel to the Ichhogil Canal for some distance. It was aligned with a bund; a bund is a double wall aligning a water course, one wall on each side that holds in the waters of that water course. The water course flows between the parallel lines of the bund.
OBJECTIVES
In line with the general XI Corps objective to position the units under its command along the Ichhogil Canal and use it as a defensive barrier turned against the Pakistan Army, the plan for 4 Mountain Division, brought in to plug the gap between 7 Division and the 67 Infantry Brigade at Hussainiwala, was to use one brigade, 62 Brigade, to capture the crossing points over the Rohi Nulla at two locations and form a plug to prevent any Pakistani advance from those points.
In this first phase, 62 Brigade was to capture the bridge over the Nulla on the Khem Karan-Kasur Road and another crossing over the Nulla further south, on a road from Khem Karan to Ganda Singh Walla.
They also needed to form a ‘plug’.
Just to insure against any irruption from those two bridges, the brigade was under orders to form a firm base more or less between the two axes, from which any entry from either side could be contested. In addition to its constituent battalions, 9 J&K Rifles, 13 Dogra and 18 Rajrif, 62 Brigade was given the Deccan Horse and 1/9 Gorkha Rifles.
In the second phase, the other brigade, 7 Brigade, was to fan out and use its two battalions remaining (1/9 Gorkhas having gone to 62 Brigade) to attack the three points on the Rohi Nulla mentioned earlier, Bedian to the north, Waigal in the centre and Ballanwala to the south.
62 Brigade were to move forward from its positions on the Nulla, secure the east bank of the Canal, and destroy all bridges in their sector (the entire divisional sector).
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FOREWORD
At that time, Pakistan had its 12 Division in Kashmir, 7 Division in Chhamb, hastily raised 6 Armored Division and 9 Division as reserves located in the Sialkot sector, 15 Division at Sialkot, 10 Division at Lahore, 11 Division at Kasur along with crack 1 Armored Division nearby, 8 Division in Sind, and 14 Division in East Pakistan. The 11 Division, like the 6 Armored, had been hastily raised. The two armored divisions on strength belied the reality that Pakistan had actually converted its106100 Independent Armored Brigade into a division by breaking out reserve tanks without US permission, by diluting tank crews in other regiments and by incorporating its self-propelled tank destroyers into new armored regiments. This hodge podge arrangement meant that Pakistan’s armor was much less effective than a seasoned armored division and an independent armored brigade.
Pakistan’s 7 Division had to be pulled back to the Sialkot-Lahore sector when Indian Xl corps crossed the international border. Its 6 Armored Division and 15 Infantry Division were opposing the advance of Indian 1 Corps from Kathua- Samba. Its 10 Division was opposing the advance of Indian 15 Division out of Amritsar. Its 8 Division was opposing Indian 11 Division in the desert, plus an independent brigade. That left its reconstituted 7 and previously uncommitted 9 Divisions as reserves, and the 1 Armored and an Infantry Division opposed by Indian 4 Division and 2 Independent Armored Brigade.
Because Pakistan had almost reached Akhnur and because it had made a shallow penetration at Khem -Karan, it could declare itself it was winning. Particularly since its Navy had just smacked the nose of the much more powerful Indian Navy by shelling Dwarka, and its compact, efficient air force had inflicted disproportionate casualties on the larger, more diffuse, and still under raising Indian Air Force.
But now lets look at the line-up from the Indian side.
In the north India had 3 Infantry Division out of Leh, which could spare two brigade to attack the Pakistan northern areas. In Kashmir India had bigger 19 and 25 Divisions compared to just one large 12 division for Pakistan.
In the stretch between Akhnur and Pathankot India had no less than five divisions, equal to half of Pakistan’ s entire army. These divisions were 10 Division (Akhnur), 26 Division (Jammu) and I Corps with 1 Armored, 6 Mountain and 14 Divisions. Plus Jammu held the 3 Independent Armored Brigade. In the Punjab India had three divisions and an independent armored brigade under Xl Corps. But another division, 23 Mountain, had moved up and was entering action. And Pakistan’s 1 Armored Division had been rendered almost ineffective at Khem Karan. India had nine divisions including one armored and two independent armored brigades between Akhnur and Ferozepur while Pakistan was left with almost six divisions including one armored.
India also had the equivalent of another division in loose brigades, one under formation, and seven mountain divisions in the east. Of these seven, at least one could have been spared without weakening the Northeast defenses.
This would have given India an effective one armored and ten infantry divisions, plus one armored brigade (leaving aside 2 (I) Armored Brigade which we deduct on account of casualties, as we have deducted Pakistan 1 Armored Division). On Pakistan’s side there were 1 armored and 5 infantry divisions.
If we assign an infantry division a value of 1, an armored division a value of 3, and the independent armored brigade a value of 2 (as being more than half as strong as an armored division) we get a total of 15 for India and 8 for Pakistan. Using Lanchester’s equation, we square each side’s combat power and get 225 for India and 64 for Pakistan, or a 3. 5 to 1 superiority.
Assume further that after another two weeks of fighting India loses the equivalent of three infantry divisions and an independent armored brigade, whereas Pakistan loses two infantry divisions and half its remaining armored division. (India’s losses would be greater because it was attacking.) Then India’s combat power reduces to 100 and Pakistan’s to 20; or a 5:1 superiority. In the next two weeks this could have meant defeat for Pakistan.
Yes, none of this was going to happen overnight. The two countries had been at war for a little over two weeks, and probably another two weeks would have been required for the state of attrition described above to come about on land and in the air. So give another two weeks after that, say six weeks in all, Lahore and Sialkot would surely have fallen.
But of course, when India barely managed to psychologically hold out in a two-week war, with an extra few days added for the initial defence of Chhamb-Akhnur, then there was no question of a six-week war.
THE THIRD PRONG – 4TH MOUNTAIN DIVISION
Having seen 15 Division and 7 Division in action, it remains to observe the action of the southern-most division, 4 Mountain Division, of XI Corps.
A mountain infantry division is not intended to fight armour or mechanised infantry in the plains. It is intended to defend mountain territory against an enemy similarly equipped, not against an enemy who might have armoured elements, or heavy artillery deployed against it in the open. Its organisation in battalions and companies is different; it has no anti-tank weaponry (at the time of the events we are discussing, normal plains infantry divisions had the 106 mm recoilless rifle, or the less effective 57 mm recoilless rifle.
It is a measure of the times that the 4 Mountain Division was alerted early in September; issued 4 instead of the regulation 6 recoilless rifles per battalion; entrained at 02:00 HRS on 5th of September in the Simla hills and detrained at 22:00 HRS near Valtoha, where 4 Mountain Division had set up its HQ. That was a 370 kms train journey. The troops then marched 10 to 12 kms to their forming-up places for the attack, which was to start at 05:30 HRS on the 6th September.
The division also got the Deccan Horse, which joined the division at Ambala, and travelled with it 320 kms by road.
The divisional line-up was:
THE TERRAIN
- 4 Mountain Infantry Division
- Deccan Horse
- 7 Mountain Infantry Brigade – Brig. D. S. Sidhu
- 1/9 Gorkha Rifles
- 4 Grenadiers
- 7 Grenadiers
- 62 Mountain Infantry Brigade – Brig. H. C.Gehlaut
- 9 Jammu & Kashmir Rifles
- 13 Dogras
- 18 Rajputana Rifles
The layout of the actions that took place can be described simply, and concentrating on the Indian side, starts with the town of Valtoha, where 4 Mountain Division had set up HQ.
62 Brigade was mustered 10 to 12 kms forward from Valtoha, so these intimidating distances from Valtoha need to be reduced by the radial distance between Valtoha and their locations; very approximately –
- About 22 kms away, in the West by South West direction, lay Kasur in Pakistan, one of the primary targets.
- Waigal, on the Rohi Nullah, was 14 kms away from Valtoha, in a West by North West direction;
- Bedian was 17.5 kms away, north west of Valtoha.
- Ballanwala, on the India-Pakistan border was 15 kms away, West by South West, more or less in the exact same compass bearing as Kasur, further behind within Pakistan.
Waigal - 3 kms
Bedian - 6.5 kms
Ballanwala - 4 kms
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KEEPING THE COUNTER-OFFENSIVE AT BAY:
RE-GROUPING
By this time, between 21:00 HRS (when the Grenadiers broke and retreated) and 02:00 HRS, when J&K Rifles split into two and the CO hustled the coherent portion back to safety, Major General Gurbaksh Singh had seen two sets of soldiers arrive exhausted back at his HQ. He decided that this must mean that the Pakistani armour was in hot pursuit; it also meant that his own divisional artillery was in imminent danger of attack. He asked his artillery brigade commander, Brigadier J. S. Sandhu, to shell the rail and road bridges over the Rohi Mulla and the Canal, with everything he had. The brigadier was happy to oblige, and between 03:30 HRS, when the shelling started, and for the full day following, there was no enemy activity. This allowed 4 Division to fall back in good order and to take up positions to receive that attack that had been forestalled by Brigadier Sandhu’s shelling.
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A few closing points regarding the Lahore front...sort of analysis....
First, lets solve the riddle of Op Riddle...it did live up to its name...
It conception was at fault.....being that to defend and improve the defensibility of Indian Punjab by an advance up til BRBL....it was a very limited objective which was set....not the best way.
Moreover, since Pakistan had the advantage of interior lines in Lahore sector....it could radiate threat towards Amritsar, Patti or Ferozepur...therefore, GOC of IA XI had three choices
first--deploy minimum forces on ground for defence, while holding the max in reserve for a massive counter attack at the right moment.
Second--launch a pre-emptive attack towards Lahore, cross BRBL and attempt to tie down max PA reserves.
Third--Capture area till eastern bank of BRB...which was the safest and cautious option. However, this option meant that the offensive elements would be stretched all along the front in order to reach BRBL...this force-stretch would automatically invite a PA penetration attack.
Therefore, it can be said that IA was everywhere, but they were not strong anywhere, they were unable to mass their superiority in any one sector in order to achieve the required dominance to help them achieve their desired aims.
GOC IA XI Corps also remained torn between PA threats to Amritsar and Khem Karan.
With regards to IA 6 Sep offensive...
-It achieved tactical surprise.
-However, it lacked finesse and boldness in its execution.
-Best option would have been to stagger the attacks of 15 and 7 Divisions...this way the divisional reserves of PA 10 Division would have been employed against one IA prong, leaving the other prong with a free run.
Undue caution remained the hallmark of Op Riddle. IA, since they did achieve surprise, had the potential to capture the important bridges over BRB / Ravi, but caution didnt help them.
There are couple of theories whether Lahore indeed was the intended objective for IA in 1965.
Couple of points which go in its favour are...
-the plan of the IA to cross BRB and make a bridgehead doesnt make sense unless it was planned to go further towards Lahore.
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1965 War: The Inside StoryAs soon as the conflict flared up, General Chaudhuri and the Directorate of Military Operations gave final touches to Operation Riddle planned as an offensive action to secure the eastern bank of the Ichhogil Canal. It was felt that the mere presence of the Indian troops on the canal opposite Lahore would draw Pakistani forces from Sialkot and other areas and thus reduce its offensive capabilities in other sectors. Moreover, if India could establish a bridgehead over the canal, the Pakistan Army would be forced to fight there and that would lead to the attrition of her smaller army. By basing the defence line along the canal India would confine the war to Pakistani territory. Operation Riddle was planned to meet an eventuality like the one the Indians were facing on 4 September. That was the next move as noted by Chavan in his diary.
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The bold plan originally envisaged that I and XI Corps would launch simultaneous offensives in the Sialkot and Lahore Sectors respectively. While the XI Corps would establish a defence line along the Ichhogil Canal, I Corps would establish itself along with the MRL. The success of Operation Riddle was based on a surprise attack on two sectors simultaneously. However, by 4th September the Indian troops in the Chhamb-Akhnur area had come under unbearable pressure and a diversionary attack had become desperately essential as Pakistani forces were poised to launch attack towards Akhnur.
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After the reverses in the battle for Jaurian, the situation was getting desperate and the Indian commanders had to advance the attack by XI Corps for the night of 5/6 September, I Corps were still on the move to their concentration areas and Operation Riddle could not be launched as originally planned. Realising urgency, Chavan approved Chaudhuri's decision to launch the XI Corps into attack across the international border in the Punjab. This was a desperate move and carried high risks. Chavan recorded on 4 September that: the step will change the complexion of the entire sitation. "If we fail - and I cannot even imagine of it - the Nation fails.
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-PAF aircraft detected long convoys of engineer bridging vehicles east of Batapur. This indicates that IA wont stop at BRB but was planning to cross it for deeper objectives.
Some points which go against this theory....
-Both divisions (7 and 15) did not employ their full potential. They attacked with only two brigades each.
-Both these divisions were not having the required number of maps of this area, moreover, the maps which were available were outdated with old names.
-Their maps did not have any details of BRB.
-All attacking troops were employed from their line of march without rest or coordination which left them in no condition for operations across BRB*.
-And then the formations employed were not the best which were available.**
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For IA, armor was the worst handled outfit. All attacks were led by infantry instead of armour. All the bridges could have been speedily captured by armor. Armor was also not employed as a punch but was distributed in packets.
Coming to PA 10 Division.
They overall mounted a good defence of their area. Their rehearsals and thorough briefing did pay off. Initial allocation of resources, initial dispositions and location was Divisional reserves were also sound.
The most outstanding feature of 10 Division battle was their sound perception of IA ops. For this Divisional staff should be lauded.
Launching of Divisional reserves (22 Brigade) within 48 hours from an unexpected direction not only reflects on the accurate reading of the battle but also GOC's boldness. Due to the aggressive posture of 10 Division, IA 15 Division was thrown off balance.
However, 10 Division made some mistake as well...like units were frequently broken and dished out. Dograi debacle could have been avoided if the integrity of 16 PR could have been ensured. Its depth company, which was from another unit, vacated the defences without informing 16 PR which had dire consequences later on.
PAF and PA artillery played their customary roles and were instrumental in all the engagements.
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A few words about the defending PA 11 Division.
It was facing several problems of its own, since it had just been raised.
- It was {ed.} not {end ed.}having its R&S unit.
-It Engineer unit was short of all sorts of equipment, including bridges.
-Signal unit was also short of communication sets.
-It had no S&T unit.
-6 Lancers, the divisional armor unit, was equipped with the older version of M47 tanks.
-Divisional artillery was having mix calibres.
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Some reasons of 4 Mountain Division rout....
-They were thrusted straight into battle after an almost 320 km journey.
-No recce of their new area.
-They were not given clear info about PA deployments.
-Both its brigades were launched on a broad front front without any depth in their attack.
-Both brigades had staggered H Hours.
-Armor was misused as usual.
-Artillery hardly intervened, was unable to silence PA artillery.
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Amended in the quoted portion.I just corrected my post....11 Div was NOT having its integral R&S unit.

A word about 4 Mountain Division...
Their orders were
-secure area east of BRB
-destroy bridge on Khem Karan-Kasur road.
-Contain any PA offensive.
4 Mountain Division had also its fair share of problems...
-It had only two brigades*.
-It was a mountain division, not trained or organized to fight in the plains**.
-They had 75 mm RRs instead of 105/106...moreover these they had only at the rate of 4/unit instead of normal 6/unit**.
-9 H was placed under command at the last moment, once they started their move, therefore no coordination or marrying up could be done^.
-Its artillery was ill-organized for giving fire support in plains***.
I followed this thread diligently till now. I read an interesting speculation by Sukhwant Singh. He speculates that both PA and IA were British trained , most of their Sr Officers were at that time KCIOs and so highly influenced by British style of warfare which favoured defensive approach, achieving overwhelming superiority in numbers and firepower and trade space for time till such conditions are met. Also whenever attacking use attrition rather than manoeuvre to achieve victory.
He moreover argues that such tactic was bound to fail in short wars fought in the subcontinent hence was ill suited for both armies. He concludes saying that the same attitude actually bolstered the defensive potential of both armies at the cost of their offensive capabilities. So both performed better in defence than while attacking which manifested itself Asal Uttar and Chawinda battles to the less than satisfactory performance of both countries premier armoured formations.
All the events described above took place on the 6th of September, and by the night, Major General Gurbaksh Singh felt the need for moral sustenance and sent a messenger to the Army Commander, stating, effectively, that 4 Mountain Division had cracked up. For Gurbaksh (gifted by the Guru) to seek help from Harbaksh (gifted by God) was quite appropriate, but the GOC-in-C, after having been woken up at 3 in the morning with this message, decided to check for himself before taking any action.
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