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I don't need David Oulalalalalalalalaloo videos to help with the dissection ;)
No you don't need David Oulalalalalalalalaloo videos to help with the dissection.

But you do need access to the deal to do the dissection. And you don't have it as yet. So could you tell us on what basis you are calling the deal bad for India.
 
All deals trump does has big numbers, lets discuss when any of them materialises
On a slightly divergent note.
How popular are US franchise fast food chains in India?
India itself has an extremely robust fast food industry though not as structured in name brand and franchise.
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I am out of date here but your Udupi generic fast food appeared to be quite popular in South India ( I can only speak for Chennai and Bangalore).
 
Good news.
( Are you sure those screen shots were not from Flipkart or Amazon India)
I hope the Indian brands don't end up like the electronics consumer durables industry that was once quite robust in India.
Your brands like Murphy, Bush, Sonodyne, Texla, Uptron, Optima, BPL. have gone into the history books forever. Also relegated to the history books are your Allwynn and Kelvinator refrigerators, IFB washing machines too are history, Chinese brands rule . Ever hear of Indian manufactured toys for children. Not anymore.

As Pakistanis we can only smile 😊

IFB still are quite a big player especially in automatic front load WM and microwave
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On a slightly divergent note.
How popular are US franchise fast food chains in India?
India itself has an extremely robust fast food industry though not as structured in name brand and franchise.
I
I am out of date here but your Udupi generic fast food appeared to be quite popular in South India ( I can only speak for Chennai and Bangalore).

Very much, I had KFC with my kids a few days back, Subway a while back, Dominos home delivery last week
 
No you don't need David Oulalalalalalalalaloo videos to help with the dissection.

But you do need access to the deal to do the dissection. And you don't have it as yet. So could you tell us on what basis you are calling the deal bad for India.

You guys keep twisting my words in this thread: First, mixing the UNSC vote geopolitics with a trade deal, and now saying I said it is a 'bad' deal--which I don't think I did. There are some concessions Indian had to reluctanctly make after many months of negotiations and the concessions are still better than the bad relationships with the Trump admin, better than the slide of the Indian Rupees, and better than the economic uncertainty until the trade deal happened.
As to what has India conceded, I posted a Reuters link above. One link on Reuters even said something like 'the least bad option'--it was written by an Indian.
Now you guys stop twisting my words--I stand by what I have said not only about this deal but also about the general geopolitics, David Oulalalalalalalala will be posting a video soon about it ;)
 
You guys keep twisting my words in this thread: First, mixing the UNSC vote geopolitics with a trade deal, and now saying I said it is a 'bad' deal--which I don't think I did. There are some concessions Indian had to reluctanctly make after many months of negotiations and the concessions are still better than the bad relationships with the Trump admin, better than the slide of the Indian Rupees, and better than the economic uncertainty until the trade deal happened.
As to what has India conceded, I posted a Reuters link above. One link on Reuters even said something like 'the least bad option'--it was written by an Indian.
Now you guys stop twisting my words--I stand by what I have said not only about this deal but also about the general geopolitics, David Oulalalalalalalala will be posting a video soon about it ;)
Your words are

"I knew eventually India will largely accommodate Washington's demands and India has"

So I will again ask you what are you basing this comment on.
 
Your words are

"I knew eventually India will largely accommodate Washington's demands and India has"
So I will again ask you what are you basing this comment on.

Firstly, where is the 'bad' word that you had accused me of using??!!
As to your question, I had posted a Reuters article and also mentioned that even an Indian on Reuters said this is 'the least bad option' for India.
I am done with you guys in this thread! What a bunch of word twisting, insecure bunch some of you are!!
Where is the hitbrick icon on this forum?!!
 
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My 2 cents on the "Indo-US trade deal"- addressed to my more serious-minded friends on both sides of the border.

#As someone here pointed out Trump is Trump. God knows what enters his mind tomorrow and what he does to the deal. So, it is best to treat the deal with a pinch of salt.

#We only have the barest outline of the deal. We need to wait till the details, provisions and timelines of the deal come out. I suspect it may take weeks, if not months. Till then our take on it is all speculative.

#Let us accept the fact that IND has a weak hand. We don't have the manufacturing strength or supply chain leverage that PRC has over the world; or the gigantic resource base and military strength that RUS has. We will have to compromise.

Let us do a deep dive into what could be the possible compromises that India may have to make:

#On Agri-At the bare minimum we will have to give what we have given EU and NZ. Market access to fruits, veggies, luxury foods etc. Almost certainly some controlled market access for corn, soya and derived products. The maximum of course would be unhindered duty-free import of cereals, oilseeds, pulses and dairy products. THAT of course would be a complete disaster for the economy and create huge chaos socially and politically.

#Russian oil- Some scale back will certainly be required. We have already brought it down from a peak of 2 mbpd to around 1.2 mpbd. Perhaps we will have to commit a further reduction in graded manner to sub 1 mbpd levels. An immediate stop may not be technically feasible nor be desirable for either stakeholder.

#Boosting US imports- This is doable but will require US being able to supply goods and services at competitive rates. The GOI isn't a direct purchaser of much and all PSUs have to go through tenders. To the extent that US goods will have 0% tariff and others will have some tariff, it might give US some competitive edge. Another way out could be for IND to route some imports such as gold, silver and diamond through US (some Indian jewelers are already doing that to evade US taxes) to optically boost US exports.

Would like to hear from you learned Maulaners/Pundits here.

Regards
 

On the agricultural side, Greer said tariffs on a vast array of goods will also go to zero, while acknowledging that India — like every country in the world, including the United States — will retain protections in certain key areas.

“They’ll continue to control that, and we will continue to work on access. But for a variety of things — tree nuts, wine, spirits, fruits and vegetables — they’re going down to zero. This is a big win,”


Significantly no mention of cereals, dairy products, oilseeds etc

Regards
 
Very much, I had KFC with my kids a few days back, Subway a while back, Dominos home delivery last week
KFC ? 👍I am glad to know, it is still politically correct to be a non-vegetarian in Bangalore . Of course is Bangalore very cosmopolitan . Always has been. My favorite Indian city, though I will never visit again.

👍👍 Anyway, best wishes to you and your family. Stay safe
 
KFC ? 👍I am glad to know, it is still politically correct to be a non-vegetarian in Bangalore . Of course is Bangalore very cosmopolitan . Always has been. My favorite Indian city, though I will never visit again.

👍👍 Anyway, best wishes to you and your family. Stay safe

Thanks 🙂 I actually live in a smaller city close to Bangalore, more space, greenery, and a much better quality of life. That said, my wife and I still drop into Bangalore every other month to meet our old IT friends from a past life, do a bit of pub hopping, and hit some local joints.

You’d probably be surprised to know that a majority of the southern population eats meat, in some states it’s well over 90%. Bangalore being cosmopolitan just makes it more visible.
 

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Thanks 🙂 I actually live in a smaller city close to Bangalore, more space, greenery, and a much better quality of life. That said, my wife and I still drop into Bangalore every other month to meet our old IT friends from a past life, do a bit of pub hopping, and hit some local joints.

You’d probably be surprised to know that a majority of the southern population eats meat, in some states it’s well over 90%. Bangalore being cosmopolitan just makes it more visible.
Suburbs around Bangalore used to be nice and probably still are. Whitefield used to be a charming village. A little rural...but still exquisite. ..
Off topic:
Someone needs to start a thread on this forum where we can exchange information on non-political non-defense subjects, that pertain to our daily lives, culture, food habits etc. ; a kind of primitive "people to people" contact. The Americans British, French and Russians (Soviet Union) at the height of the Cold War would discuss music, ballet, art, literature,Sports and travel; even as thousands of nuclear warheads were pointed at each other's cities. I would love to tell Indians where Kumrat valley is.

We end up making off topic posts and getting our knuckles rapped by the mods,
 
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Don't know if India will be importing SPAM and Hormel canned products as well .

Why would india import sh1t like that? The crap they put in their tinned food is disgusting 🤮
 
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