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[panzerfaust 3]

Oh well, reality hits again....

Supply chain issues delay deliveries of LCA-Mk1A jets​

Supply chain issues delay deliveries of LCA-Mk1A jets

After some delay, the deliveries of the Light Combat Aircraft-Mk1A by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited to the Indian Air Force are now expected to begin by end of July

www.thehindu.com

We will se about that, whether it really holds any significance in the overall long run

It may be a minor issue and will be sorted out and may not have any effect on the overall production of airframes
But one thing is clear to me that there will be a significant increase in the overall production of the airframes

The f 404 engines not being delivered is however a major issue

 

[Yasser76]

We will se about that, whether it really holds any significance in the overall long run

It may be a minor issue and will be sorted out and may not have any effect on the overall production of airframes
But one thing is clear to me that there will be a significant increase in the overall production of the airframes

The f 404 engines not being delivered is however a major issue

Yeah, I would agree, lack of engine is a major issue. Unsure how despite HAL now admitting it MAY only deliver 1 aircraft end of July/August we still have people in all seriousness posting about 36 planes per year.

Even if you get the airframes it looks like GE can only produce 20 engines a year, and considering the fleet will need spare engines you are probably looking at 18 planes a year max. Still respectable figure, but in all probability means 10 years to get to a 180 planes Tejas MK1A fleet.

 

[panzerfaust 3]

Yeah, I would agree, lack of engine is a major issue. Unsure how despite HAL now admitting it MAY only deliver 1 aircraft end of July/August we still have people in all seriousness posting about 36 planes per year.

Looks like general electric will have to increase the production for the sake of hal

We will however achieve the rate of production , even after the initial setbacks

Even if you get the airframes it looks like GE can only produce 20 engines a year, and considering the fleet will need spare engines you are probably looking at 18 planes a year max. Still respectable figure, but in all probability means 10 years to get to a 180 planes Tejas MK1A fleet.

18 planes per year is not sufficient for us !
Truth is we need a second line of production,
The Tejas mk 2 is already in prototyping stage if we can't complete the orders of mk1A in time the production lines could not be modified for mk 2 production

It is one of the biggest concerns of hal and airforce, and I am sure they will be able to handle this issue

 

[Yasser76]

Looks like general electric will have to increase the production for the sake of hal

We will however achieve the rate of production , even after the initial setbacks

18 planes per year is not sufficient for us !
Truth is we need a second line of production,
The Tejas mk 2 is already in prototyping stage if we can't complete the orders of mk1A in time the production lines could not be modified for mk 2 production

It is one of the biggest concerns of hal and airforce, and I am sure they will be able to handle this issue

You have strong faith in HAL.....

 

[panzerfaust 3]

You have strong faith in HAL.....

Yes, maybe because there has been some major changes in DRDO and people have lots of expectations just like they have from ISRO

 

[Yasser76]

Yes, maybe because there has been some major changes in DRDO and people have lots of expectations just like they have from ISRO

Well, it is July and they have not delivered one plane so far, but I am sure you are right...

 

[Deino]

Looks like general electric will have to increase the production for the sake of hal

We will however achieve the rate of production , even after the initial setbacks

18 planes per year is not sufficient for us !
Truth is we need a second line of production,
The Tejas mk 2 is already in prototyping stage if we can't complete the orders of mk1A in time the production lines could not be modified for mk 2 production

It is one of the biggest concerns of hal and airforce, and I am sure they will be able to handle this issue

I think this all depends on what was negotiated and signed in the contract, but per my understanding the biggest limiting factor is not GE but HAL and how many aircraft they can actually build…. And given all my experience I have NO faith in HAL.

 

[Yasser76]

I think this all depends on what was negotiated and signed in the contract, but per my understanding the biggest limiting factor is not GE but HAL and how many aircraft they can actually build…. And given all my experience I have NO faith in HAL.

Indian posters on here are a strange bunch, imagine every few months jumping on a HAL statement, then a few months later always being let down, but continueing to believe every word they say to win an argument on the internet....

 

[Deino]

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Why am I not surprised only such a stupid post is your only reply?

Always hyping things up, always refusing to ignore reality, always blaming others for delays while at the same time blindly believing what HAL or any officials say even if they promise the same since years and nothing happens before ... but hey, wait: Yes, it's always the other's fault!

And still no facts .... actually I just feel sorry for you. Again I hit a nerve?!

 

[Yasser76]

Why am I not surprised only such a stupid post is your only reply?

Always hyping things up, always refusing to ignore reality, always blaming others for delays while at the same time blindly believing what HAL or any officials say even if they promise the same since years and nothing happens before ... but hey, wait: Yes, it's always the other's fault!

And still no facts .... actually I just feel sorry for you. Again I hit a nerve?!

I would leave it Deino, it is pretty obvious to everyone they have lost the argument, now they are just posting for postings sake to try and salvage some pride.

 

[Deino]

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Acting like a three year old toddler in the supermarket when dad denies a lolly ...

 

[panzerfaust 3]

Acting like a three year old toddler in the supermarket when dad denies a lolly ...

Maybe I don't want to reply to the person whose ego is so hurt thet he is always trying to pull me into some stupid argument!

And you have already tried so hard to get my neutral posts deleted, so that you can feel good about yourself?

 

[panzerfaust 3]

I think this all depends on what was negotiated and signed in the contract, but per my understanding the biggest limiting factor is not GE but HAL and how many aircraft they can actually build…. And given all my experience I have NO faith in HAL.

Who cares about your faith? Eh?


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