Indian Politics and Internal News

[Joe Shearer]

indians were smart they invested in human development and industry while khaki boys and their gang of theives were taking loans and build motorways just so they can make good commission!

Brilliant! A short, sharp executive summary.. Thanks, buddy.

 

[BananaRepublic]

indians were smart they invested in human development and industry while khaki boys and their gang of theives were taking loans and build motorways just so they can make good commission!

and now india is the third biggest economy and Pakistan is a fking joke!

Well! The buggers did get nukes!

Credit to them for that.

Otherwise the Sanghis would be even more unbearable!

I think the khaki boys fear internal enemies a lot more than external enemies.

They genuinely believe Pakistan would disintegrate without their iron grip!

 

[BananaRepublic]

Brilliant! A short, sharp executive summary.. Thanks, buddy.

As you know, I have the upmost respect for your khaki boys.

They always find ingenious ways to stay clear of politics lol

Despite the thugs, goons and outright murderers as political masters - they have preserved India’s border for over 75 years.

 

[BananaRepublic]

He is irrelevant. Forget it.

He refused to accept that his facts and my insight - could both be right.

 

[Pingle]

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Yes and in essence it is not a "fair competition" between small and densely packed BD and India/Pakistan.

Like I say India and BD will both have "world class" infrastructure within the next 5-10 years.

I am not sure on the opening post that said Indian infrastructure was the worst by some distance as India is too huge to make such a blanket statement and the poster was restricted to a small portion of India.

Off course bro we both are going to have best infrastructure in next decade....
BTW BD is also waking up and population growth is in fact no more be a problem..... you are a next South Korea of South Asia.....

 

[Pingle]

It’s taken BD a decade and a half to achieve universal access. At a cost of about 50 billion.

Due to size and spread of population - it’s going to take India most of this century and trillions to achieve the same.

Once you get there - you then have to maintain them at extortionate costs. Bangladesh’s running cost by comparison will be pittance.

@UKBengali and @SoulSpokesman, the unhinged anti-Indian Bangladeshi will not accept India has first world mobile and IT infrastructure. Airports are now beyond first world. Rail is fast getting there.

All of this makes India a very nice place for the middle class.

And the unhinged sanghi will not accept that Bangladesh has the best coverage for basic infrastructure like hospitals, schools, roads, water and power grid.

This makes Bangladesh a much better place than India for the underclass.

And given both countries have a massive underclass - @Joe Shearer you can see why Bangladesh has been able to avoid the internal conflicts that has paralysed India and Pakistan.

So another feather in the cap of Hasina for leaving BD in the state she did.

The woman is amazing and one day we’ll be able to crow about it loudly!

Agreed....

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

If you don't know anything about a society, try not to comment.

What does low-caste - caste in any way - have to do with sanitation?

Please don't give me fraction for telling this but castes play role

"Many rural Indians, especially Hindus, prefer open defecation due to caste-related beliefs about purity and pollution"

"Muslims in rural India are 19 percentage points less likely to defecate in the open than rural Hindus, despite being poorer on average"

Now add cows etc allowed go anywhere in Indian cities and you get poo poo problem.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

indians were smart they invested in human development and industry while khaki boys and their gang of theives were taking loans and build motorways just so they can make good commission!

and now india is the third biggest economy and Pakistan is a fking joke!

"Motorways" are fenced highways, India have lots of these.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Please don't give me fraction for telling this but castes play role

I don't, as a rule, act as moderator in a discussion where I am myself engaged, other than in exceptional cases.

I do retain the freedom to report breaches of the rules.

"Many rural Indians, especially Hindus, prefer open defecation due to caste-related beliefs about purity and pollution"

This is puzzling. Decidedly, there are inhibitions to intermingling, but none that I am aware of that affect defecation. Obviously that is avoided close to dwelling places without sanitary facilities - a latrine or toilet - but for anyone to shrink from using a clean latrine or toilet and use the open spaces instead is really bizarre.

Caste certainly doesn't come into it. Poverty and the inability to build a latrine does.

"Muslims in rural India are 19 percentage points less likely to defecate in the open than rural Hindus, despite being poorer on average"

Frankly bewildered. Never come across this before.

Now add cows etc allowed go anywhere in Indian cities and you get poo poo problem.

Fully agree.

By the way, this is due to the cheating and anti-social behaviour of the owners of the cows (or bulls). They let their cattle out into the open, to avoid investing in pens and byres.

 

[BananaRepublic]

By the way, this is due to the cheating and anti-social behaviour of the owners of the cows (or bulls). They let their cattle out into the open, to avoid investing in pens and byres.

Is it too easy to let them loose on the BD border where they can be celebrated in a biryani?

We can take your unwanted cows in return for allegedly taking 20 million of our unwanted humans?

 

[FuturePAF]

Agriculture is a highly risky business with very low margins, you can't make that the backbone of your economic growth. Industrialization with the goal to export that output is how Chinese were able to grow and take hundreds of millions out of poverty. It is the only viable model to follow...This is exactly what Vietnam is currently doing and what other SE Asian nations did to industrialize...

Industrialization is the goal, but you need a stepping stone to employ the majority of the population firstly, make sure they can sustain themselves, with no or very limited subsidies from the export earning side of the country, and from the profits of the internal economy alone, generate enough tax revenue to provide basic services; healthcare, education, electricity, water supply, internal security, etc.

Basically a sustainable internal market. Remember people like Shabbar Zaidi said area north of Hyderabad should be able to sustain themselves as an internal oriented market and the areas south should be oriented towards export. We need a plan for the majority of the country and population too.

From some of the profits, domestic infrastructure can be build, and human capital developed.

With a stable local market, when we seek investors for industrialization, they will also see a growing market that can absorb some of the potential exports should there be a downturn for some time.

So for boom parts of a cycle; Cheap labor for export and for downturns, a large enough market to buy at least some of the products, because they would have achieved the ability to afford it due to the growth of the buying power of the domestic market; richer farmers and richer service workers.

Exporting food products for example (from the internal economy) to the gulf countries will also support the port infrastructure needed on the coast to make competitive cities to attract FDI to restart industrialization.

Improvement to internal infrastructure can slowly be used to not just sustain but grow infrastructure beyond its current bounds; such as the canal network, to increase arable land.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

I don't, as a rule, act as moderator in a discussion where I am myself engaged, other than in exceptional cases.

I do retain the freedom to report breaches of the rules.


This is puzzling. Decidedly, there are inhibitions to intermingling, but none that I am aware of that affect defecation. Obviously that is avoided close to dwelling places without sanitary facilities - a latrine or toilet - but for anyone to shrink from using a clean latrine or toilet and use the open spaces instead is really bizarre.

Caste certainly doesn't come into it. Poverty and the inability to build a latrine does.

Frankly bewildered. Never come across this before.


Fully agree.

By the way, this is due to the cheating and anti-social behaviour of the owners of the cows (or bulls). They let their cattle out into the open, to avoid investing in pens and byres.

This is puzzling to you as a Indian? Like you are seriously telling me you have no idea about how caste play role?


"Ritual purity: Higher-caste Hindus often view latrines as impure and defiling, especially when located near living spaces or religious areas
https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/09/15/caste-is-stunting-all-of-indias-children/
This leads to a preference for open defecation, which is perceived as cleaner and more dignified."


"Pit emptying: The task of emptying latrine pits is associated with ritual impurity and historically relegated to the lowest castes
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7457703/
Many higher-caste individuals are unwilling to empty pits themselves or hire others to do so, leading to a reluctance to use latrines"
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7457703/

For high caste hindus its more pure to drink cow urine then having to clean their own toilet.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@BananaRepublic

Kola bhai,

Is it too easy to let them loose on the BD border where they can be celebrated in a biryani?

That is what was happening fairly openly pre 2014- farmers would sell their aged cattle to traders who would export them to butcheries in BD or Indian states (such as TN, WB, KL) where beef is legal. Sadly, since 2014 because of the karnameys of the go rakshaks with the active connivance of the Central and most BJP run state govts this window has closed. This has a bad impact on the economy as well.

Regards

 

[Thinking]

This is puzzling to you as a Indian? Like you are seriously telling me you have no idea about how caste play role?


"Ritual purity: Higher-caste Hindus often view latrines as impure and defiling, especially when located near living spaces or religious areas
https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/09/15/caste-is-stunting-all-of-indias-children/
This leads to a preference for open defecation, which is perceived as cleaner and more dignified."


"Pit emptying: The task of emptying latrine pits is associated with ritual impurity and historically relegated to the lowest castes
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7457703/
Many higher-caste individuals are unwilling to empty pits themselves or hire others to do so, leading to a reluctance to use latrines"
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7457703/

For high caste hindus its more pure to drink cow urine then having to clean their own toilet.

Ah PDF, thanks for all the sheer comic relief!


Anyhow, India is building infra as insane level. Where we are failing badly is teaching people how to use it. Ofcourse Urban Infra is total garbage.

India has likely spend close to a trillion USD on infra of all type (roads, ports, airports, power) in last 10 years. Private capex is on top of that.

And this will only grow in coming decade.

 

[Joe Shearer]

This is puzzling to you as a Indian? Like you are seriously telling me you have no idea about how caste play role?

How would I know? I'm just an Indian who has been sensitive to caste issues for going on to 58 years.
Obviously Hyderabadi Arabs know better.

"Ritual purity: Higher-caste Hindus often view latrines as impure and defiling, especially when located near living spaces or religious areas

Please tell me you are joking.


I could do my baking in this wasted, impure space.
Now why did I need PDF to think of this?