India's 𝗞𝗮𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗶 𝗗𝗿𝘆 𝗘𝗻𝗴𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝗛𝗶𝘁𝘀 𝟰𝟴.𝟱 𝗸𝗡 𝗶𝗻 𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮

[Corax]

Go and drink camel piss and be in jannat.

The only religion that advocates drinking animal urine is yours cow dung worshiper, now go molest your gaumarta and be happy in your little shithole

 

[mythbuster]

stay on topic this thread is about kaveri engine and its derivatives

Derivatives are in backwardation ( if you don't understand financial jargons , it means they are at a discount) .

 

[Pioneer]

That's why to Russia, atleast it wont leak to undesired enemies.

China also used to send their engines to test to Russia.

Also it is not right now Cutting Edge it is bit behind i.e. comparable to 2000's tech in comparison to 2020 - 2026 tech.

Anyhow, it provides insight what the trajectory will be in future.

 

[retaxis]

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These indians truly lie without any shame. Once caught they do not feel shame either and just continue lieing some more. No other culture on earth behaves like this no wonder everyone hates indians.

 

[Trailer23]

The only religion that advocates drinking animal urine is yours cow dung worshiper, now go molest your gaumarta and be happy in your little shithole

Our friend didn't last too long, huh.

He's probably...ehh...like that in real life .

Challo, we got our daily dose of entertainment at the expense of another Multi ID Rat.

Lets see what he regenerates into next...

 

[Shui]

lol wut.

 

[Deino]

so developing a 50kn Dry turbofan engine is no achievement ? if thats the case then why is India China US and France investing billions of dollars in this tech ?

Since they are developing 150+ kN engines and not 50 kN engines and brag about it.

 

[Mr X]

I must appreciate that at least Indians are constantly investing in engine project. They will eventually make it, not sure in 2030 or 2060… but the intentions are clear.

 

[Kaveri Engine]

Since they are developing 150+ kN engines and not 50 kN engines and brag about it.

It is the exact class needed for stealth bomber drone GHATAK UCAV. India had no such capability before. Building the core technologies (high-temperature materials, compressors, turbines, digital controls) is the hard part. Thrust rating is the application, not the only measure of difficulty.

US, and France develop engines across multiple thrust classes. They do not only work on 150 kN machines and ignore everything else. Dismissing a 50 kN dry engine as “no achievement” simply because bigger ones exist is a weak deflection. Progress is progress.

 

[r3alist]

Developing an indigenous turbofan engine is the most complex engineering challenge in aerospace, and India has spent decades building the expertise, infrastructure and technology required to achieve it.

It is,hence you don't have one viable final product

I know Pakistanis want to shit on India automatically, but honestly this is a pretty big achievement for any nation to make.

Its not just a matter of building an engine, but a matter of building an engine that's consistently reliable, and domestically produced.

The Kaveri engine, as it is now, may only be useful for light planes and drones, but that technology will only improve with time, leading to better engines.

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To Pakistanis, don't underestimate this. Pakistan has nothing close to this sort of achievement.

Sure, Pak is building miniature drone engines, but this is on another level.

Unless Pakistan has something to show, laughing is dumb. The Indians have once again proven they're ahead of Pakistan when it comes to domestic research and development in vital technology.

I partially agree, but this is not school project, military achievements are relative to your peers, when and how you do them.

Is India going to reduce it's western engine dependency for 4th and 5th generation..... Not any time soon, that is THE operative question.

Beyond that it's another huge big thorough about to make a difference.....


The improving it with time is actually the esoteric aspect of it, if the Chinese are playing catch up to Americans still then

 

[Kaveri Engine]

It is,hence you don't have one viable final product




I partially agree, but this is not school project, military achievements are relative to your peers, when and how you do them.

Is India going to reduce it's western engine dependency for 4th and 5th generation..... Not any time soon, that is THE operative question.

Beyond that it's another huge big thorough about to make a difference.....


The improving it with time is actually the esoteric aspect of it, if the Chinese are playing catch up to Americans still then

The Kaveri dry engine has completed Russian trials and has been certified for use in India’s stealth bomber GHATAK UCAV. That is a concrete, functional product in the exact thrust class required for UCAVs and Stealth Bombers.

Having a flying, certified dry engine after building the materials, manufacturing base, and design expertise from near-zero is not “no viable final product.” It is the first real indigenous turbofan capability India has ever fielded. Dismissing it because a full manned-fighter afterburning version is not yet operational ignores what has already been achieved.

 

[Kaveri Engine]

I must appreciate that at least Indians are constantly investing in engine project. They will eventually make it, not sure in 2030 or 2060… but the intentions are clear.

Kaveri 2.0 (the higher-thrust afterburning engine) is a separate, deliberate next step. Public reporting puts flight trials of the upgraded afterburning configuration on a Tejas testbed around 2030, with thrust targets in the 90–100 kN class. That is the realistic horizon for a fighter-grade indigenous engine, not some open-ended “maybe never” timeline.

One more point people need to understand: even if the Kaveri engine becomes fully functional, certified, and delivers higher thrust than the American GE F404, that does not automatically mean India will replace every American engine in the Tejas Mk1A with it. Changing an engine is a complex and expensive task involving airframe integration, flight testing, and certification.

The Kaveri will continue to power advanced trainer jets and large drones or bombers.

The next-generation engine that India is co-developing with France for the AMCA is the one bound to replace the American GE F414 engines in the Tejas Mk2 and the AMCA.

 

[retaxis]

Kaveri 2.0 (the higher-thrust afterburning engine) is a separate, deliberate next step. Public reporting puts flight trials of the upgraded afterburning configuration on a Tejas testbed around 2030, with thrust targets in the 90–100 kN class. That is the realistic horizon for a fighter-grade indigenous engine, not some open-ended “maybe never” timeline.

One more point people need to understand: even if the Kaveri engine becomes fully functional, certified, and delivers higher thrust than the American GE F404, that does not automatically mean India will replace every American engine in the Tejas Mk1A with it. Changing an engine is a complex and expensive task involving airframe integration, flight testing, and certification.

The Kaveri will continue to power advanced trainer jets and large drones or bombers.

The next-generation engine that India is co-developing with France for the AMCA is the one bound to replace the American GE F414 engines in the Tejas Mk2 and the AMCA.

Yeah we been hearing that for 50yrs and the wording still hasn't changed. When indians are pumping out a few hundred jet fighters a year with indigenous engines wake me up. Till then we had 50yrs of yap yap yap.

 

[Kaveri Engine]

lol wut.

The Ghatak UCAV is a stealth bomber roughly the size of a Super Hornet (F/A-18E/F). It performs the role of a B-52 while also being able to fire air-to-air missiles. It is more than capable of delivering munitions deep inside Pakistan, and the Indian Air Force plans to acquire more than 100 of them.

 

[r3alist]

The Kaveri dry engine has completed Russian trials and has been certified for use in India’s stealth bomber GHATAK UCAV. That is a concrete, functional product in the exact thrust class required for UCAVs and Stealth Bombers.

Having a flying, certified dry engine after building the materials, manufacturing base, and design expertise from near-zero is not “no viable final product.” It is the first real indigenous turbofan capability India has ever fielded. Dismissing it because a full manned-fighter afterburning version is not yet operational ignores what has already been achieved.

No it's not concrete, it's self certification, not actually inducted and operational

It doesn't remove the 4th and 5th gen bottle necks you have, which is far more important from a regional balance perspective, it's a linear step relative to your peers who are improving with a 30 year lead

Ok I can acknowledge this on face value as a step level in capability, on face value, in the narrow framing you ask.