Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

seems their solution is to hugely increase the number of missiles produced / launched to overcome deficiencies in accuracy
It's probably the best they can do within current limitations. As others have said concentrating a missile attack on one or two high value targets can yield results. Whether it be a navy ship, a base, a government building. A few rounds of this on important IDF nodes and they may cease to be able to continue their operations in Gaza.
 
seems their solution is to hugely increase the number of missiles produced / launched to overcome deficiencies in accuracy

Did we see their most powerful missiles in TP2?

I believe there's one with a 2000kg warhead and others with cluster munitions?

they still haven't used those?
 
Did we see their most powerful missiles in TP2?

I believe there's one with a 2000kg warhead and others with cluster munitions?

they still haven't used those?
only newer missile in service that we didn't see was Khorramshahr. but that is a much bigger and more expensive missile not produced by IRGC itself but ordered from MOD. not clear they have large numbers of it as they may prefer their cheaper smaller missiles

also Fattah-2 was not used but this likely has not entered into service yet

No, Iran's newer missiles are highly accurate.
Kheibar Shekan-1 and 2 were used in large numbers in TP1 and 2 and these did not prove to be "highly accurate". 70-80m CEP if we want to be extremely generous, though it is true this is an average of all missiles used and KS-2 itself may have slightly better accuracy (even so, only 4 direct hits on buildings out of 36 impacts were recorded at Nevatim)
 
It's probably the best they can do within current limitations. As others have said concentrating a missile attack on one or two high value targets can yield results. Whether it be a navy ship, a base, a government building. A few rounds of this on important IDF nodes and they may cease to be able to continue their operations in Gaza.
there are very important targets in Nevatim but it seems no attempts were made to hit these

I created a thread to collect key targets in Israel and I encourage others to contribute to it:

 
a missile programs without nuke is like a dick that can not have erection , completely useless in time of need .
well I say we can destroy their biggest power plants, desalination plants, main military industrial/production sites and HQs with 2000-3000 missiles

but pushing a rabid racist genocidal regime to such painful lengths is arguably not a wise decision when they have nuclear weapons and you do not
 
well I say we can destroy their biggest power plants, desalination plants, main military industrial/production sites and HQs with 2000-3000 missiles

but pushing a rabid racist genocidal regime to such painful lengths is arguably not a wise decision when they have nuclear weapons and you do not
Unless in the car of all out war and Iran is in a situation where the existence of the IRI is seriously threatened. This we can agree on except for the nuke part. This is basically my fundamental point in all the back an forth we had today 😅
 
Kheibar Shekan-1 and 2 were used in large numbers in TP1 and 2 and these did not prove to be "highly accurate". 70-80m CEP if we want to be extremely generous, though it is true this is an average of all missiles used and KS-2 itself may have slightly better accuracy (even so, only 4 direct hits on buildings out of 36 impacts were recorded at Nevatim)
It seems that you have not seen the images of the impacts. There are about 10 accurate impacts in nevatim air base.

The rest of the collisions that are not accurate are due to less accurate missiles such as Qadr and Emad.
 
over half a dozen B2 bombers and over a dozen C17 Globe masters have arrived in Diego Garcia in the last 24 hours

anyone know what's going on ?
 
Don't worry, Khamenei will give away both.
I don't think he has a choice. We had the chance to not end up like Ukraine, Libya or Iraq. We saw this coming from miles away, and our leadership did f- all to take the danger seriously. They will disarm Iran, they will incinerate our people on the city streets, and it will be because of these religious minded fools that have been steering the ship to oblivion while pilfering the nation.
 
This is correct. It proved the world that Iran's missiles are inaccurate and that Iran does not have the ability to deter or inflict damage. Any assumption of "this was just a warning" is copium. Iran has quantity (not 100K as some idiots believe, but maybe 3-5K) but the quality is worse than North Korea. With proxies shown to be paper tigers (except Hamas and Houthis), Iran has lost any and all credibility and it's shown its hand, now Israel and the US know what they can do, which is why they are on the warpath.
Iran still poses fair shair of credibility, and the fact that we are talking about misfortune of the proxies, in region full with bloody clashes after US military intervention phase last decades, not for Iran itself but proxies is by definition wisely guided long-term national politics...

Problem with strategic patience doctrine is that many, with honest attitude and best intentions will react in this way like you... But that doesn’t makes it wrong, this is too early to give any indication of future effects in this matter...

And I don't see problems with Iranian system itself, some presidents were left freehand in implementation of different approaches, one signed deal with usa president, deal that was created and intended to change everything...and failed, not to Khatami's obstructions and sabotage, but we know whole story about it...

So blaming the Supreme Leader for all uncomfortable issues is a bit unfair, when other factors failed in their plans and by default returned all the responsibilities to him... Some new ideas and platforms are needed for that matter, but with concept of what to bring and how to do it...
 
over half a dozen B2 bombers and over a dozen C17 Globe masters have arrived in Diego Garcia in the last 24 hours

anyone know what's going on ?
It's possible the C-17s are for ground ops to kill the Houthis for good. If not, it could be for taking and holding key strategic zones of Iran (islands, Khuzestan oil fields). It will be telling if more arrive.
 
I don't think he has a choice. We had the chance to not end up like Ukraine, Libya or Iraq. We saw this coming from miles away, and our leadership did f- all to take the danger seriously. They will disarm Iran, they will incinerate our people on the city streets, and it will be because of these religious minded fools that have been steering the ship to oblivion while pilfering the nation.

The IR is the whole reason Iran can defend itself

Have you seen the Shah and his supporters in the west, the most harami debauched, confused mofos you ever seen in your life

Whose aim it is to be be subservient to the west, you should be proud you have a government standing up for Iran and the region during a period of time where power lies in the west

History will note the cowardice of the Arab regimes and how Iran stood up
 

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