Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Did we see their most powerful missiles in TP2?

I believe there's one with a 2000kg warhead and others with cluster munitions?

they still haven't used those?
only newer missile in service that we didn't see was Khorramshahr. but that is a much bigger and more expensive missile not produced by IRGC itself but ordered from MOD. not clear they have large numbers of it as they may prefer their cheaper smaller missiles

also Fattah-2 was not used but this likely has not entered into service yet

No, Iran's newer missiles are highly accurate.
Kheibar Shekan-1 and 2 were used in large numbers in TP1 and 2 and these did not prove to be "highly accurate". 70-80m CEP if we want to be extremely generous, though it is true this is an average of all missiles used and KS-2 itself may have slightly better accuracy (even so, only 4 direct hits on buildings out of 36 impacts were recorded at Nevatim)
 
It's probably the best they can do within current limitations. As others have said concentrating a missile attack on one or two high value targets can yield results. Whether it be a navy ship, a base, a government building. A few rounds of this on important IDF nodes and they may cease to be able to continue their operations in Gaza.
there are very important targets in Nevatim but it seems no attempts were made to hit these

I created a thread to collect key targets in Israel and I encourage others to contribute to it:

 
a missile programs without nuke is like a dick that can not have erection , completely useless in time of need .
well I say we can destroy their biggest power plants, desalination plants, main military industrial/production sites and HQs with 2000-3000 missiles

but pushing a rabid racist genocidal regime to such painful lengths is arguably not a wise decision when they have nuclear weapons and you do not
 
well I say we can destroy their biggest power plants, desalination plants, main military industrial/production sites and HQs with 2000-3000 missiles

but pushing a rabid racist genocidal regime to such painful lengths is arguably not a wise decision when they have nuclear weapons and you do not
Unless in the car of all out war and Iran is in a situation where the existence of the IRI is seriously threatened. This we can agree on except for the nuke part. This is basically my fundamental point in all the back an forth we had today 😅
 
Kheibar Shekan-1 and 2 were used in large numbers in TP1 and 2 and these did not prove to be "highly accurate". 70-80m CEP if we want to be extremely generous, though it is true this is an average of all missiles used and KS-2 itself may have slightly better accuracy (even so, only 4 direct hits on buildings out of 36 impacts were recorded at Nevatim)
It seems that you have not seen the images of the impacts. There are about 10 accurate impacts in nevatim air base.

The rest of the collisions that are not accurate are due to less accurate missiles such as Qadr and Emad.
 
over half a dozen B2 bombers and over a dozen C17 Globe masters have arrived in Diego Garcia in the last 24 hours

anyone know what's going on ?
 
Don't worry, Khamenei will give away both.
I don't think he has a choice. We had the chance to not end up like Ukraine, Libya or Iraq. We saw this coming from miles away, and our leadership did f- all to take the danger seriously. They will disarm Iran, they will incinerate our people on the city streets, and it will be because of these religious minded fools that have been steering the ship to oblivion while pilfering the nation.
 
This is correct. It proved the world that Iran's missiles are inaccurate and that Iran does not have the ability to deter or inflict damage. Any assumption of "this was just a warning" is copium. Iran has quantity (not 100K as some idiots believe, but maybe 3-5K) but the quality is worse than North Korea. With proxies shown to be paper tigers (except Hamas and Houthis), Iran has lost any and all credibility and it's shown its hand, now Israel and the US know what they can do, which is why they are on the warpath.
Iran still poses fair shair of credibility, and the fact that we are talking about misfortune of the proxies, in region full with bloody clashes after US military intervention phase last decades, not for Iran itself but proxies is by definition wisely guided long-term national politics...

Problem with strategic patience doctrine is that many, with honest attitude and best intentions will react in this way like you... But that doesn’t makes it wrong, this is too early to give any indication of future effects in this matter...

And I don't see problems with Iranian system itself, some presidents were left freehand in implementation of different approaches, one signed deal with usa president, deal that was created and intended to change everything...and failed, not to Khatami's obstructions and sabotage, but we know whole story about it...

So blaming the Supreme Leader for all uncomfortable issues is a bit unfair, when other factors failed in their plans and by default returned all the responsibilities to him... Some new ideas and platforms are needed for that matter, but with concept of what to bring and how to do it...
 
over half a dozen B2 bombers and over a dozen C17 Globe masters have arrived in Diego Garcia in the last 24 hours

anyone know what's going on ?
It's possible the C-17s are for ground ops to kill the Houthis for good. If not, it could be for taking and holding key strategic zones of Iran (islands, Khuzestan oil fields). It will be telling if more arrive.
 
I don't think he has a choice. We had the chance to not end up like Ukraine, Libya or Iraq. We saw this coming from miles away, and our leadership did f- all to take the danger seriously. They will disarm Iran, they will incinerate our people on the city streets, and it will be because of these religious minded fools that have been steering the ship to oblivion while pilfering the nation.

The IR is the whole reason Iran can defend itself

Have you seen the Shah and his supporters in the west, the most harami debauched, confused mofos you ever seen in your life

Whose aim it is to be be subservient to the west, you should be proud you have a government standing up for Iran and the region during a period of time where power lies in the west

History will note the cowardice of the Arab regimes and how Iran stood up
 
The IR is the whole reason Iran can defend itself

Have you seen the Shah and his supporters in the west, the most harami debauched, confused mofos you ever seen in your life

Whose aim it is to be be subservient to the west, you should be proud you have a government standing up for Iran and the region during a period of time where power lies in the west

History will note the cowardice of the Arab regimes and how Iran stood up
Reza Pahlavi supporters are mostly Jews or cucked, low-IQ Iranian libertines who can barely speak Persian. In the case of the latter, they are the dalghaks of our race, in the case of the former, they aren't Iranian, and should not be considered Iranian. Any future government of Iran should hasten the deportation of the remaining 25,000 Jews in Iran, they have their own country now.

Here's the problem. The Shah (Mohammad Reza) built Iran into a state of the art military with a GDP growing by 14%, it was faster growth than South Korea, his White Revolution was about fixing Iran culturally, infrastructrually, technologically, and land-wise to prepare Iran not only for survival in the modern world, but to attain great power status. Interference of foreign intelligence and subversive elements in Iran prevented this, but most of all falling out of favor with the Washington-Sanhedrin nexus as this would have meant Iran could play hardball, as Iran did with the 1973 oil crisis. During his reign countries like Iraq didn't dare force Iran, things were solved diplomatically, although he conceded too much in my opinion. Once he was gone and Khomeini rid the military of its best minds, changed the entire military doctrine and exalted a group of fanatical volunteers over the professionals, Saddam invaded with sheer force, speed and brutality, and nearly destroyed us.

The Islamic Republic should have learned from this. They've shown weakness. A weird Shi'ite tendency of showing weakness, provoking, then playing out the masochistic martyrdom posture, a cycle reminiscent of Hussein's needless rebellion which resulted in his and his tribes undisputed, senseless, completely avoidable slaughter. This story is like a programming script in the mind of Shi'ites, especially revolutionary ones- rebel, protest, provoke a far stronger foe, get killed, die, achieve martyrdom, and cry about it. Jews have a similar internal programming where they aspire to power, mistreat the Goyim, subvert them, and then antagonize them, get clapped to oblivion, and cry about it for centuries, adding it to the tally of their deprivations since escaping Egypt. For both groups its cultural, philosophical, and programmed.

The Islamic Republic provoked the US and Israel, two superior powers. When it came to be, it provoked the USSR as well. Iran was unable to get spare parts or weapons to fight Iraq. We sent thousands of boys to be slaughtered by Iraqis, in a desperate bid to break the invaders' morale. Why did Iranian government do this? Because they are painfully Shi'ite in the sense that this programmed cycle is what guides them in life. We did not need to shoot ourselves in the foot, but we did. And every Shi'ite movement from 1979 onward has done this, every movement that sprung forth from Khomeini and Shariati's ideas. No matter the pretensions to regional power, the Islamic Republic had defeated itself from the start. And taken all of us Iranians along for the ride.
 
It seems that you have not seen the images of the impacts. There are about 10 accurate impacts in nevatim air base.

The rest of the collisions that are not accurate are due to less accurate missiles such as Qadr and Emad.
I recently posted a full analysis of the satellite images

10 accurate impacts includes runways/side roads, not buildings. only 4 buildings/structures were hit at Nevatim (2 with severe damage, and 2 with very light damage).

Tel Nof we saw video evidence of 10+ impacts including one serious impact but no satellite imagery was released.
 
Reza Pahlavi supporters are mostly Jews or cucked, low-IQ Iranian libertines who can barely speak Persian. In the case of the latter, they are the dalghaks of our race, in the case of the former, they aren't Iranian, and should not be considered Iranian. Any future government of Iran should hasten the deportation of the remaining 25,000 Jews in Iran, they have their own country now.

Here's the problem. The Shah (Mohammad Reza) built Iran into a state of the art military with a GDP growing by 14%, it was faster growth than South Korea, his White Revolution was about fixing Iran culturally, infrastructrually, technologically, and land-wise to prepare Iran not only for survival in the modern world, but to attain great power status. Interference of foreign intelligence and subversive elements in Iran prevented this, but most of all falling out of favor with the Washington-Sanhedrin nexus as this would have meant Iran could play hardball, as Iran did with the 1973 oil crisis. During his reign countries like Iraq didn't dare force Iran, things were solved diplomatically, although he conceded too much in my opinion. Once he was gone and Khomeini rid the military of its best minds, changed the entire military doctrine and exalted a group of fanatical volunteers over the professionals, Saddam invaded with sheer force, speed and brutality, and nearly destroyed us.

The Islamic Republic should have learned from this. They've shown weakness. A weird Shi'ite tendency of showing weakness, provoking, then playing out the masochistic martyrdom posture, a cycle reminiscent of Hussein's needless rebellion which resulted in his and his tribes undisputed, senseless, completely avoidable slaughter. This story is like a programming script in the mind of Shi'ites, especially revolutionary ones- rebel, protest, provoke a far stronger foe, get killed, die, achieve martyrdom, and cry about it. Jews have a similar internal programming where they aspire to power, mistreat the Goyim, subvert them, and then antagonize them, get clapped to oblivion, and cry about it for centuries, adding it to the tally of their deprivations since escaping Egypt. For both groups its cultural, philosophical, and programmed.

The Islamic Republic provoked the US and Israel, two superior powers. When it came to be, it provoked the USSR as well. Iran was unable to get spare parts or weapons to fight Iraq. We sent thousands of boys to be slaughtered by Iraqis, in a desperate bid to break the invaders' morale. Why did Iranian government do this? Because they are painfully Shi'ite in the sense that this programmed cycle is what guides them in life. We did not need to shoot ourselves in the foot, but we did. And every Shi'ite movement from 1979 onward has done this, every movement that sprung forth from Khomeini and Shariati's ideas. No matter the pretensions to regional power, the Islamic Republic had defeated itself from the start. And taken all of us Iranians along for the ride.

Some of what you say is true, but other is false

Without the I.R, Iran would be another defeated puppet in the middle east no different to Egypt and the other Arabs

The odds were stacked against you from the beginning, and in the current world order the U.S and west reign supreme, although we are now seeing the cracks and possibly the start of the down fall alongside the demographic crisis brewing in the west and across the world

Even with the odds stacked for heavily against Iran, iran under the circumstances has done incredibly well just to survive and keep going

This is a civilisational battle, and this is no time to break rank and pussey out
 

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