Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

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[ToddE]

There was no patriotism in these two Pahlavi kings.

One saved Iran from Ottoman+Russian+British March into Iranian territory, took over the nation when 10 million people were dead from Femine in north west. Kicked the foriegners out, stablized the economy and state. The other re-took Russian stolen Azerbaijan and Kurdistan, built worlds 4th largest AF, 5th largest standing Army, that saved Iran from Entire Arab league., created world 15th Largest Economy at its peak.

They saw Iran as their property and the people of Iran were considered their servants.

IRI Mullahs did same and actually worst, they wasted 100s of Billions of USD of Iranian nation's wealth on their Arab pets in Levant only to lose them null n void, they got hundreds and thousands of Iranian die because of them getting Iran involved in Intra-semite fight of Jews and Arabs. What did our boys die for in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq ? Currency ruined, power shedding, brain drain, economy halved ... Pahlavis, Qajars, Afshars, Zands, Safavid, Qovanlus .... list goes on but no no one did this to Iran. I am not an Imperialist by any means, Phuk monarchy but IRI is turning into the weakest form of Iran.

They were two kings, but they ran away from Iran 3 times like mice, and in World War II, enemies easily occupied Iran and killed millions of Iranians.

and IRI lost hundreds of billions of USD on Hamas (hates Iranians, fought against iran in Iraq war and in Syria), Hezbollah, Iraqi militias, Yemen, Afghans, dozens of Lewas, got hundreds and thousands of soldiers of Iran die for there stupid pet projects.

Please provide any imperial king of Iran be it Pahlavi or Qajar or Afshar doing this level of damage to Iran.

 

[ResurgentIran2]

One saved Iran from Ottoman+Russian+British March into Iranian territory, took over the nation when 10 million people were dead from Femine in north west. Kicked the foriegners out, stablized the economy and state. The other re-took Russian stolen Azerbaijan and Kurdistan, built worlds 4th largest AF, 5th largest standing Army, that saved Iran from Entire Arab league., created world 15th Largest Economy at its peak.



IRI Mullahs did same and actually worst, they wasted 100s of Billions of USD of Iranian nation's wealth on their Arab pets in Levant only to lose them null n void, they got hundreds and thousands of Iranian die because of them getting Iran involved in Intra-semite fight of Jews and Arabs. What did our boys die for in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq ? Currency ruined, power shedding, brain drain, economy halved ... Pahlavis, Qajars, Afshars, Zands, Safavid, Qovanlus .... list goes on but no no one did this to Iran. I am not an Imperialist by any means, Phuk monarchy but IRI is turning into the weakest form of Iran.



and IRI lost hundreds of billions of USD on Hamas (hates Iranians, fought against iran in Iraq war and in Syria), Hezbollah, Iraqi militias, Yemen, Afghans, dozens of Lewas, got hundreds and thousands of soldiers of Iran die for there stupid pet projects.

Please provide any imperial king of Iran be it Pahlavi or Qajar or Afshar doing this level of damage to Iran.

What is the solution then?
Surely you are not advocating for the Shah's son Reza Pahlavi to be installed?

 

[Persian Gulf]

What is the solution then?
Surely you are not advocating for the Shah's son Reza Pahlavi to be installed?

nationalist government that abandons Palestinians and nuclear program and makes peace with Israel

somehow need to hope that this new regime (if it survives a civil war and partition) doesn't become a US vassal and is able to continue the missile project or just become another UAE/KSA

 

[ToddE]

What is the solution then?

will write that later.

Surely you are not advocating for the Shah's son Reza Pahlavi to be installed?

Read my posts on His Majesty Shahanshah Reza Pahlavi the Third, in this thread below.

https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...-talabs-a-genuine-question.20424/#post-596117

 

[Mehdipersian]

One saved Iran from Ottoman+Russian+British March into Iranian territory, took over the nation when 10 million people were dead from Femine in north west. Kicked the foriegners out, stablized the economy and state. The other re-took Russian stolen Azerbaijan and Kurdistan, built worlds 4th largest AF, 5th largest standing Army, that saved Iran from Entire Arab league., created world 15th Largest Economy at its peak.



IRI Mullahs did same and actually worst, they wasted 100s of Billions of USD of Iranian nation's wealth on their Arab pets in Levant only to lose them null n void, they got hundreds and thousands of Iranian die because of them getting Iran involved in Intra-semite fight of Jews and Arabs. What did our boys die for in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq ? Currency ruined, power shedding, brain drain, economy halved ... Pahlavis, Qajars, Afshars, Zands, Safavid, Qovanlus .... list goes on but no no one did this to Iran. I am not an Imperialist by any means, Phuk monarchy but IRI is turning into the weakest form of Iran.



and IRI lost hundreds of billions of USD on Hamas (hates Iranians, fought against iran in Iraq war and in Syria), Hezbollah, Iraqi militias, Yemen, Afghans, dozens of Lewas, got hundreds and thousands of soldiers of Iran die for there stupid pet projects.

Please provide any imperial king of Iran be it Pahlavi or Qajar or Afshar doing this level of damage to Iran.

Your prejudice against these two Pahlavi traitors is strange. They were dictators, corrupt, bloodthirsty, dependent on other countries, cowardly in front of Iran's enemies. What is the worst possible type of government?

 

[ToddE]

They were dictators

Like Mullahs imposing their own "principles" on entire nation.

corrupt,

Like Mullahs and cronies doing cash embezzlement, smuggling. Literally a can of worms can be opened in this category.

bloodthirsty

Like Mullahs have killed tens of thousands of Iranians be it political opponents or just stupid ass protestors.

dependent on other countries

Like Mullahs are dependent upon selling Iranian nations oil cheaply to China and get weapons from Russia.

cowardly in front of Iran's enemies.

Like IRI chickened out of attacking US over Soleimani assasination or attacking Israel over bombing IRGC Generals in Syria, killing of Nasrullah, killing of Haniyeh ?

What is the worst possible type of government?

The one that ruins currency, destroys economy, mass murders their own youths in name of politics, fights for those who hate Iran.

 

[Mehdipersian]

Like Mullahs imposing their own "principles" on entire nation.



Like Mullahs and cronies doing cash embezzlement, smuggling. Literally a can of worms can be opened in this category.



Like Mullahs have killed tens of thousands of Iranians be it political opponents or just stupid ass protestors.



Like Mullahs are dependent upon selling Iranian nations oil cheaply to China and get weapons from Russia.



Like IRI chickened out of attacking US over Soleimani assasination or attacking Israel over bombing IRGC Generals in Syria, killing of Nasrullah, killing of Haniyeh ?



The one that ruins currency, destroys economy, mass murders their own youths in name of politics, fights for those who hate Iran.

Look, you can't change history for your own benefit. What you said against the Islamic Republic is nonsense and worthless propaganda.

 

[ToddE]

Look, you can't change history for your own benefit. What you said against the Islamic Republic is nonsense and worthless propaganda.

If IRI loses any part of Iran or further weakens Iran then it already has, just remember you played a role in it by blindly following the corrupt incompetent akhoonds.

 

[Mehdipersian]

If IRI loses any part of Iran or further weakens Iran then it already has, just remember you played a role in it by blindly following the corrupt incompetent akhoonds.

The mullahs alone have been fighting with all the great powers of the world for 45 years.In this situation, Iran is progressing in all fields every year.

It seems that there is no need to worry about this.

 

[Persian Gulf]

@Emirzad @Mehdipersian

you have expressed your views, now lets return to the topic

 

[Persian Gulf]

Diego Garcia airport is c. 3900km from south Iran (just north of Chabahar). a large number of B-2 bomber aircraft can be seen parked at the airport in recent satellite images, with US officials saying this military build up is linked to Trump's threats against iran.

Shahed-136B has claimed range of 4000km.

other drones / ballistic missiles can also be launched from forward base ships (Shahid Mahdavi, Shahid Roudaki, Shahid Bagheri) if they get closer to Diego Garcia, but that is easier to see in advance

what air defences does Diego Garcia have? from quick search, cannot find any.

 

[Liquidator]

Diego Garcia airport is c. 3900km from south Iran (just north of Chabahar). a large number of B-2 bomber aircraft can be seen parked at the airport in recent satellite images, with US officials saying this military build up is linked to Trump's threats against iran.

Shahed-136B has claimed range of 4000km.

other drones / ballistic missiles can also be launched from forward base ships (Shahid Mahdavi, Shahid Roudaki, Shahid Bagheri) if they get closer to Diego Garcia, but that is easier to see in advance

what air defences does Diego Garcia have? from quick search, cannot find any.

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It's a legitimate and easy target for Iran.

Fortune favours the bold...

Air defence will be via naval assets.

 

[lightning f57]

Diego Garcia airport is c. 3900km from south Iran (just north of Chabahar). a large number of B-2 bomber aircraft can be seen parked at the airport in recent satellite images, with US officials saying this military build up is linked to Trump's threats against iran.

Shahed-136B has claimed range of 4000km.

other drones / ballistic missiles can also be launched from forward base ships (Shahid Mahdavi, Shahid Roudaki, Shahid Bagheri) if they get closer to Diego Garcia, but that is easier to see in advance

what air defences does Diego Garcia have? from quick search, cannot find any.

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Iran should keep rotating their subs to be out to sea, I think the Kilos have SLCMs. They can also act as an attack platform.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iran should keep rotating their subs to be out to sea, I think the Kilos have SLCMs. They can also act as an attack platform.

that's true and a good point. Kilo only has torpedo tubes but Iran has designed an 'adaptor' that can fire cruise missiles from the torpedo tubes. I don't think Iran showed LACM with sufficient range from the torpedo tubes since there are significant size limitations