Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

the response: we are really interested in this great idea and we think it is worth exploring with a few very small adjustments such as reversing all of it and removing your redlines

You know this impasse, even if its an impasse, as long as the status quo is kept with negotiations, Iran is still winning, b/c those centrifuges are still churning, 50% of the 60% HEU Iran has on hand has been produced in the last 3 months. Another 3 months, and its going to be around 600Kg of 60% HEU. And that 15 warheads approximately.
 
Like the wheels on the bus going round and round — catchy, exhausting, and ultimately just a noisy ride to nowhere.

US terms for nuclear deal ‘out of touch with reality’ – Iranian source to RT​

The White House’s letter to Tehran was far from a compromise, a person familiar with the matter said

“Iranians were dismayed to see such a fanciful, one-sided text that is so out of touch with reality,” the source added.


These people will never accept any country in this region that can be a competitor. The only thing they’ll accept is full capitulation and a client State .
Look at the Saudi’s, and the fake made up countries of the UAE and Qatar.
we allow you to sell your oil but all those dollars must be used to purchase hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars in military hardware that you can’t use without our permission.If you do that, we let you stay in power, build palaces , and humiliate yourself by giving us free airplanes, and having your women shake their hair as if they belong in a mental institution and pretend like this is some cultural custom in the Muslim world.
 
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Like the wheels on the bus going round and round — catchy, exhausting, and ultimately just a noisy ride to nowhere.

US terms for nuclear deal ‘out of touch with reality’ – Iranian source to RT​

The White House’s letter to Tehran was far from a compromise, a person familiar with the matter said

“Iranians were dismayed to see such a fanciful, one-sided text that is so out of touch with reality,” the source added.


These people will never accept any country in this region that can be a competitor. The only thing they’ll accept is full capitulation and a client State .
Look at the Saudi’s, and the fake made up countries of the UAE and Qatar.
we allow you to sell your oil but all those dollars must be used to purchase hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars in military hardware that you can’t use without our permission.If you do that, we let you stay in power, build palaces , and humiliate yourself by giving us free airplanes, and having your women shake their hair as if they belong in a mental institution and pretend like this is some cultural custom in the Muslim world.
To make new balance of power in the region after Iranian revolution, usa had to establish own military presence in 5 other countries, that were already customers of their insanely expensive military tools... It's not useful for Americans anyway...

Having still Iran for enemy now is behind the scenes success of zionistic lobby in usa and nothing more...
 
To make new balance of power in the region after Iranian revolution, usa had to establish own military presence in 5 other countries, that were already customers of their insanely expensive military tools... It's not useful for Americans anyway...

Having still Iran for enemy now is behind the scenes success of zionistic lobby in usa and nothing more...
I have to agree with you to some extent, if I understand you correctly. The US keeps Iran as the enemy and milks the Persian Gulf puppet governments for massive amounts of their wealth. I have to say that the scales are now in a different direction. The US wants to crush Iran because the real enemy is China. The war with Russia is entering its third year. The Chinese fully understand that if the Russians fall, they are next. If another front opens with Iran, it is likely to lead to a confrontation with the US, although it is doubtful.. No one in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Azerbaijan is capable of starting a war with Iran. The result will not be a war at first, but rather sabotage, as we see in Russia, and increased economic isolation.
 
War is big business in the US. There have been presidents in the past with ideas, but then the suits show up. The president changes his mind. There is no peace with Russia, and the Iranian establishment is wasting time. The sooner they abandon NPT and reveal their intentions, the sooner they can begin negotiating with leverage to avoid war. The sanctions will never be lifted unless Iran capitulates, agrees to lose territory, and undergoes a regime change.

Ukraine Launches Massive Drone Swarm Attack On Russian Airfields, Trump "Not Notified In Advance"​


by Tyler Durden
Sunday, Jun 01, 2025 - 09:40 AM
Update (1240ET):

On Sunday, the Russian Ministry of Defense issued an official statement that a coordinated Ukrainian drone swarm attack targeted and damaged military aircraft across several airbases located deep within Russian territory.

Affected airfields reportedly include:

  • Murmansk Oblast
  • Irkutsk Oblast
  • Ivanovo Oblast
  • Ryazan Oblast
  • Amur Oblast

So sorry but even with well defined hyperman zionists lunatics, US have no money to pay such party. POTUS went 2 weeks ago for begging money to Arab monarchies. But they won't pay a war against Irán. There is no money left for even continue US support to Ukraine...
 
Like the wheels on the bus going round and round — catchy, exhausting, and ultimately just a noisy ride to nowhere.

US terms for nuclear deal ‘out of touch with reality’ – Iranian source to RT​

The White House’s letter to Tehran was far from a compromise, a person familiar with the matter said

“Iranians were dismayed to see such a fanciful, one-sided text that is so out of touch with reality,” the source added.


These people will never accept any country in this region that can be a competitor. The only thing they’ll accept is full capitulation and a client State .
Look at the Saudi’s, and the fake made up countries of the UAE and Qatar.
we allow you to sell your oil but all those dollars must be used to purchase hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars in military hardware that you can’t use without our permission.If you do that, we let you stay in power, build palaces , and humiliate yourself by giving us free airplanes, and having your women shake their hair as if they belong in a mental institution and pretend like this is some cultural custom in the Muslim world.
I agree completely at such point. The problem is not nuclear program. The problem It is a country with potential full access to high technology and military expertise and tradition to put in the corner Israel which is a US brand in the Middle East. Like China in far East.
 
I have to agree with you to some extent, if I understand you correctly. The US keeps Iran as the enemy and milks the Persian Gulf puppet governments for massive amounts of their wealth. I have to say that the scales are now in a different direction. The US wants to crush Iran because the real enemy is China. The war with Russia is entering its third year. The Chinese fully understand that if the Russians fall, they are next. If another front opens with Iran, it is likely to lead to a confrontation with the US, although it is doubtful.. No one in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Azerbaijan is capable of starting a war with Iran. The result will not be a war at first, but rather sabotage, as we see in Russia, and increased economic isolation.
The Americans are innovative enough to find new ways to milk the Persian Gulf puppets with fake, idiotic projects like the Neom.
 
You know this impasse, even if its an impasse, as long as the status quo is kept with negotiations, Iran is still winning, b/c those centrifuges are still churning, 50% of the 60% HEU Iran has on hand has been produced in the last 3 months. Another 3 months, and its going to be around 600Kg of 60% HEU. And that 15 warheads approximately.
somewhat true as that increases our leverage and that is why Trump talked about his '2 month deadline' previously (which has turned out to be another bluff)

the problem is if Trump wakes up one day and decides Iran is not cooperating and then gives a green light to an Israeli strike, blindsiding Iran in the middle of negotiations. although problems are also opportunities.

on the other hand, the experience with Ukraine shows that Trump will put up with a lot of delays and will not be quick to leave negotiations even when very little progress is being made
 
The Americans are innovative enough to find new ways to milk the Persian Gulf puppets with fake, idiotic projects like the Neom.
parts of Neom will be good (small island tourist resorts, improved infrastructure, etc)

but some parts of it are really stupid on a historical scale ("The Line") and the costs are truly out of this world:

"The anticipated cost of the Neom gigaproject in Northwest Saudi Arabia have exploded from the original $500bn (£386bn) estimate to $8.8 trillion (£6.8 trillion)."


they will probably end up scaling back the plans by 90%. there are already reports that this has been the case with The Line.

Neom has been the best wealth extraction scheme that the Western consulting/manufacturing/legal/finance firms have come up with in a very long time.
 
parts of Neom will be good (small island tourist resorts, improved infrastructure, etc)

but some parts of it are really stupid on a historical scale ("The Line") and the costs are truly out of this world:

"The anticipated cost of the Neom gigaproject in Northwest Saudi Arabia have exploded from the original $500bn (£386bn) estimate to $8.8 trillion (£6.8 trillion)."


they will probably end up scaling back the plans by 90%. there are already reports that this has been the case with The Line.

Neom has been the best wealth extraction scheme that the Western consulting/manufacturing/legal/finance firms have come up with in a very long time.
Yeah, the small tourist islands are good, but the thing in general is a huge scam of astronomical proportions. They already have scaled down the project. Instead of 180 km, the line will be shorter than 5km. It's still going to cost them over 1 trillion dollars! It's laughable.

Anyway, it seems that the negotiations have failed. The US offer seemed quite irrational. The US doesn't want a deal apparently and the time is moving forward in our favor so far. We must prepare for the worst case scenario now and move our enriched uranium to unknown locations. If the regime doesn't go publicly nuclear, then things will get extremely ugly for us.
 
somewhat true as that increases our leverage and that is why Trump talked about his '2 month deadline' previously (which has turned out to be another bluff)

the problem is if Trump wakes up one day and decides Iran is not cooperating and then gives a green light to an Israeli strike, blindsiding Iran in the middle of negotiations. although problems are also opportunities.

on the other hand, the experience with Ukraine shows that Trump will put up with a lot of delays and will not be quick to leave negotiations even when very little progress is being made
Remember Houthies also. He just took 2 months of bloody air campaign but then he let it go.
 
Yeah, the small tourist islands are good, but the thing in general is a huge scam of astronomical proportions. They already have scaled down the project. Instead of 180 km, the line will be shorter than 5km. It's still going to cost them over 1 trillion dollars! It's laughable.

Anyway, it seems that the negotiations have failed. The US offer seemed quite irrational. The US doesn't want a deal apparently and the time is moving forward in our favor so far. We must prepare for the worst case scenario now and move our enriched uranium to unknown locations. If the regime doesn't go publicly nuclear, then things will get extremely ugly for us.
The nucleair business/trade is worth hunderds of billions, imagine Iran having a 10% share in this growing sector.
The main reason that they want to exclude Iran is this, they don't want new rivals in strategic industries. Iran will and should NEVER being excluded from this club.
 
The nucleair business/trade is worth hunderds of billions, imagine Iran having a 10% share in this growing sector.
The main reason that they want to exclude Iran is this, they don't want new rivals in strategic industries. Iran will and should NEVER being excluded from this club.
It is worth that much, but Iran can never have a share of that market for several reasons:

1. Iran needs to increase its enrichment capacity to over 1 million SWU/year to export enriched uranium. We need 600,000 SWU UF6/year for our nuclear reactors until 2030, if we do not build new reactors. Big actors in the market are way above that enrichment capacity, usually over 5 million SWU/year, or even 10 million SWU/year. Since Iran uses SWU UF6/year, you should multiple those numbers by 1.6 as well. Obviously, not only we do not have enough centrifuges to reach those numbers, and Fordow and Natanz currently cannot host more than 100,000 centrifuges, the world will not allow Iran to reach such a huge enrichment capacity.

2. Even if we reach those numbers, and we somehow circumvent sanctions that they will all place on us, we will need to provide electricity to our centrifuges. We are talking about tens of gigawatts-hour of electricity for 1-5 million SWU. As long as we have electricity shortage in Iran, we cannot be a major export of LEU.

3. We do not have enough natural uranium in Iran to export 100 tones of LEU per year. Most light-water reactors consume over 20 tones of LEU per year. We do not have that much uranium in Iran to export large quantities of LEU to foreign countries. In fact, our uranium reserves are barely enough to support our own needs for the next 30-40 years.

4. The issue of branding and the fact that most countries with nuclear technology, now or in future, will be US/West allies and will not approach us when they have better options with better branding.

I think the main issue with the US proposal is that they have offered nothing in return for such huge demands. They haven't offered a complete, immediate lift of sanctions, passed as a law in the US. They are talking about step-by-step lift of sanctions, which is not only stupid, but has already been tried and failed. They haven't offered normalization of ties. Their offer is quite one-sided and delusional. I think the negotiations are over and we should prepare for the other scenario.
 

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