Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[FUB]

I was about to write the same thing....the Chinese are 10x more smarter than the US of the present day.....the reason the US is what it is today is because previously they behaved in such a way it endeared them to the world.....now, they're acting like the new USSR.
China is going about their business correctly, slowly, no bullying, no threats of sanctions or unilateralism.

China is the future. We can only hope that the mullah regime makes a 100% pivot East. The West has nothing to offer but financial fuckary.

 

[Persian Gulf]

**HUGE DEVELOPMENT**

نامه ۷۱ نماینده به سران قوا: سلاح هسته‌ای بسازیم و نگه داریم؛ استفاده از آن بحث دیگری است / تفاوت شرایط می‌تواند موجب تغییر حکم ممنوعیت تولید سلاح اتمی شود

بیش از ۷۰ نماینده مجلس در نامه ای به شورای‌عالی امنیت ملی و روسای سه قوه با اشاره به ضرورت بازنگری در دکترین دفاعی ایران تاکید کردند: به‌کارگیری سلاح هسته‌ای...

www.entekhab.ir

بیش از ۷۰ نماینده مجلس در نامه ای به شورای‌عالی امنیت ملی و روسای سه قوه با اشاره به ضرورت بازنگری در دکترین دفاعی ایران تاکید کردند: به‌کارگیری سلاح هسته‌ای مصداق حرمت فتوای رهبری معظم انقلاب در سال ۱۳۸۹ بوده اما ساخت و نگهداری به‌عنوان بازدارندگی بحث دیگری است.

Translation: Over 70 Parliament Members have sent a letter to the National Security Council and the Heads of 3 Bodies (Executive, Judiciary and Legislation) to review the fatwah against nuclear weapons, mentioning that the use of nuclear weapons is haram but building and storing them for deterrence is a different issue.

don't think they understand how a nuclear deterrent works if they are saying we will build one but we won't use it

 

[kastor ville]

Next time our Israel fan boy posts about that tiny little country, here is a little-known fact to consider. Translation= selected government stooges will ram the cost down the throat of the American taxpayer, all the while the living standards for the working class and middle class Americans deteriotes.

Lol...I was discussing this on another forum. But these bastards are not only supporting genocide and apartheid, but they're also curtailing freedom of speech, the biggest tenent of USA's democracy. Ellison's son is in charge of the Paramount,Skaydance merger...they also bought into TikTok and will now censor it against anti Isreali speech. The orange ape in the WH does what he's told. No one is guarding one of the strongest pillars of democracy. Then we have the anti genius Musk, who bought Twitter so he can force us to listen to whatever he has to say, most of which is misinformation, incidentally he's one racist sob. He's super anti Muslim. He just about started a civil war in the UK with the other Israeli paid agent Tommy Robinson. This world is becoming a dangerous place, due to the Jews of NY and Israel....they have eroded the Rules Based Order by their pursuit of hegemony. The atmosphere now looks a lot like the years before WWII. Fascism on the rise, misinformation everywhere, paranoia....all of it stems from one group's efforts to control everything.....and I hope it blows up in the face.

 

[Persian Gulf]

stay on topic. report posts or complain to GHQ if you are still not happy.

 

[ShapurII]

don't think they understand how a nuclear deterrent works if they are saying we will build one but we won't use it

Step by step. First, we must build them and justify the idea of having them.
Nuclear deterrence is a path that takes decades to reach maturity.
We had to start this path decades ago, but we need a starting point for sure.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Step by step. First, we must build them and justify the idea of having them.
Nuclear deterrence is a path that takes decades to reach maturity.
We had to start this path decades ago, but we need a starting point for sure.

if they want to build it the worst way is to have 100 MPs publicly call for it to happen first, lol. either they're building it in secret or they're screwed.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[ShapurII]

if they want to build it the worst way is to have 100 MPs publicly call for it to happen first, lol. either they're building it in secret or they're screwed.

I personally think this is meant to give Pezeshkian some leverage in New York.
Pezeshkian would go there and say something like look, I want to sign a deal but there are hardliners in Iran that are pressuring us to build the bomb. So, give us a deal.

Exactly what I said. If Iran had fired 500-1000 drones per day, the IAF would've never been able to freely and easily roam and bomb us 24/7. And their IADS would've been low on SAMs way faster.

 

[Sarhang]

Exactly what I said. If Iran had fired 500-1000 drones per day, the IAF would've never been able to freely and easily roam and bomb us 24/7. And their IADS would've been low on SAMs way faster.

Lets say hypothetically we have around 20,000 drones (which is impossible). The moment we start firing them toward Israel the entire NATO bloc + US will step in and they will be shooting them down inside Iranian airspace before they even get close.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

person talking too much, is a friend of no one!

 

[Sarhang]

don't think they understand how a nuclear deterrent works if they are saying we will build one but we won't use it

I think the window for making nuclear weapons passed a long time ago. The most ideal time would have been the early 2000s and by 2010 we should have already had a weapon. But of course Ahmadinejad provoked the world Jewry and from 2006 onward with his 'wipe Israel off the map' comments their sights were set on Iran.

I can bet you Israel wasnt as obsessed with Iran before 2006.

And now the IR has no deterrence left. Even if they tested a nuclear weapon tomorrow and it became official that Iran was a nuclear power then what? If they actually used it it would mean complete suicide.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I think the window for making nuclear weapons passed a long time ago. The most ideal time would have been the early 2000s and by 2010 we should have already had a weapon. But of course Ahmadinejad provoked the world Jewry and from 2006 onward with his 'wipe Israel off the map' comments their sights were set on Iran.

I can bet you Israel wasnt as obsessed with Iran before 2006.

And now the IR has no deterrence left. Even if they tested a nuclear weapon tomorrow and it became official that Iran was a nuclear power then what? If they actually used it it would mean complete suicide.

the MEK exposed Natanz in 2002. they fucked it up. if it wasn't for them Iran would have had nuclear weapons within a few years probably.

Ahmadinejad was a meme. He wasn't wrong but he wasn't smart either.

 

[ShapurII]

Lets say hypothetically we have around 20,000 drones (which is impossible). The moment we start firing them toward Israel the entire NATO bloc + US will step in and they will be shooting them down inside Iranian airspace before they even get close.

I really don't see why Iran should have only 20,000 drones, and why that's impossible.
Russia is producing 500 Shahed drones per day. They used 700 Shahed drones in just one day on Ukraine.
I really hoped Iran would have over 100,000 drones, but we don't. Or at least, we haven't demonstrated this capability.

They won't be able to shoot down 500-1000 drones per day. They will need to scramble each and every hour. It is humanely very difficult, if not impossible.
Just fire 50 drones every hour or so. It will exhaust them mentally and force them to carry fewer bombs for offense.

 

[Sarhang]

I really don't see why Iran should have only 20,000 drones, and why that's impossible.
Russia is producing 500 Shahed drones per day. They used 700 Shahed drones in just one day on Ukraine.
I really hoped Iran would have over 100,000 drones, but we don't. Or at least, we haven't demonstrated this capability.

They won't be able to shoot down 500-1000 drones per day. They will need to scramble each and every hour. It is humanely very difficult, if not impossible.
Just fire 50 drones every hour or so. It will exhaust them mentally and force them to carry fewer bombs for offense.

Russia can pump out hundreds of Shaheds a day because they got the industrial base, supply chains and they are already in full scale war production. Iran doesnt have that scale... not even close. IR didnt even announce that the country was in war mode. So how exactly are you going to force the entire arms industry to suddenly produce tens of thousands of Shaheds? Its impossible with Irans current situation.... no mobilization, no resources, no industrial base on that scale.

For large scale operations like that you need an intact chain of command and valuable field commanders directing day and night missions... all under the cover of layered air defenses.

That’s impossible under relentless Israeli airstrikes.

I can confidently say Russia is producing more drones than IR and right now has a larger drone stockpile.