Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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It benefits from fractured countries like Syria and Lebanon and would prefer Iran destabilized rather than just denuclearized.
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They aim for chaos, not just denuclearization.

At this point, what can Iran do to get the upper hand in this conflict?
Unlike some members of the Iranian diaspora, I don't think that changing the regime would be enough for Israel. They are clearly aiming for one of two outcomes:

a. endless, paralyzing civil war or

b. fragmentation of the country

In my opinion, their ideal situation would be a regime change along with balkanization of the Iranian territory.

What - besides building the bomb - could Iran do to avoid these scenarios (realistically)?
 
Eşbah said:
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It benefits from fractured countries like Syria and Lebanon and would prefer Iran destabilized rather than just denuclearized.
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They aim for chaos, not just denuclearization.

At this point, what can Iran do to get the upper hand in this conflict?
Unlike some members of the Iranian diaspora, I don't think that changing the regime would be enough for Israel. They are clearly aiming for one of two outcomes:

a. endless, paralyzing civil war or

b. fragmentation of the country

In my opinion, their ideal situation would be a regime change along with balkanization of the Iranian territory.

What - besides building the bomb - could Iran do to avoid these scenarios (realistically)?
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As i always hammered here: Israel doesn't want regime change, but total regime collapse with full US involvement, partition of Iran into 12 states, pipelines of free Iranian oil and gas directly to Israel and Europe to finance their next wars (probably Egypt or Turkey or Pakistan)

Israel is not able to accomplish this by itself, but has a chance with total US involvement both in air and ground, but even this would be a massive task for them as the recent war told us that Iranians are more united than ever in times of war, and that no riots or uprisings will happen in times of war
 
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@Hack-Hook what can we do about these people
 
tsunset said:
As i always hammered here: Israel doesn't want regime change, but total regime collapse with full US involvement, partition of Iran into 12 states, pipelines of free Iranian oil and gas directly to Israel and Europe to finance their next wars (probably Egypt or Turkey or Pakistan)

Israel is not able to accomplish this by itself, but has a chance with total US involvement both in air and ground, but even this would be a massive task for them as the recent war told us that Iranians are more united than ever in times of war, and that no riots or uprisings will happen in times of war
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That chance is now put to the rest, if you believe the National Sec advisor of the US. The regime change is no longer pursued....I think because a destabilized Iran is a much bigger headache for them than the IRI.
 
Eşbah said:
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It benefits from fractured countries like Syria and Lebanon and would prefer Iran destabilized rather than just denuclearized.
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They aim for chaos, not just denuclearization.

At this point, what can Iran do to get the upper hand in this conflict?
Unlike some members of the Iranian diaspora, I don't think that changing the regime would be enough for Israel. They are clearly aiming for one of two outcomes:

a. endless, paralyzing civil war or

b. fragmentation of the country

In my opinion, their ideal situation would be a regime change along with balkanization of the Iranian territory.

What - besides building the bomb - could Iran do to avoid these scenarios (realistically)?
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Tactically Iran can improve its missiles and refill the arsenals and payrolls of its allies in Yemen, Lebanon and elsewhere. That strategy will probably work for another 5 years.

Strategically, they need more friends. I think Iran should overhaul its foreign policy with a 10 to 15 year goal of creating strategic depth in its neighborhood meaning it starts wooing Turkey, Pakistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan and even Afghanistan, burying past mistakes and grievances and starting afresh.

They also need some way to either get out of the economic sanctions or to neutralize them using third parties. Armenia has been the main sanctions buster for Russia, why not for Iran too ?
 
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Either Lebanon/Syria or Iran, though, I think Hezbollah is their next target.
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Hegseth hates Muslims and is an enemy of Islam. Why do we Muslims have to take orders from Crusader Scum like Hegseth and Trump? Chase these fuckers out of the Middle East just like Saladin did.
 
If you have access to YouTube, you should watch it. The MAGA movement has imploded because the right is furious that they were promised MAGA, but they are getting MIGA. Republicans will get crushed at the midterms and lose the House. Even with that, the America First president is starting another war at the order of the Jewish Oligarchs who brought him to power. For those who do not know, Tucker Carlson has a massive platform on the right and is probably the biggest in the US, left or Right. Randy Fine is Jewish, Israel first, who hates Palestinians and muslims. He is one of the most grossly overt supermacists I have seen in this country in a long time. Ben Shapiro is Jewish and shills for Israel 24/7. Lyndsey Graham, a Zionist, comes out and even states that you are not allowed to have an anti-Israel thought. This is the first time in history that an empire has been totally captured by a tiny country with nothing. No resources, nothing.
Hi Mohsen Reyhani! How is the weather in Tel Aviv? ONUB is an excellent book. Once you read it, you will understand.
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StrategicBear said:
Hegseth hates Muslims and is an enemy of Islam. Why do we Muslims have to take orders from Crusader Scum like Hegseth and Trump? Chase these fuckers out of the Middle East just like Saladin did.
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Hey man I have a question do you see the whole Middle East as one single entity? As a outsider it looks like multiple nations squabbling for power. They let the Americans hold power by choice and necessity.

So when you say enemy of Islam do you keep all muslim nations on the same pedestal with the same interests?

This concept sounds too egalitarian to me. In the past you had the Ottomans who ruled over vast swathes of land through conquest.

But infighting due to different dogmas, letting outside powers like America and the Russians take advantage is the folly of their own making.

I'm just curious btw.
 
Immortals said:
Really not suprising they took out the leader of Hamas at an IRGC “safe house”.

These guys are beyond incompetent. Maybe losing their “top” generals will allow fresh ideas into the aging guard. But given how many of these old guard propaganda Baghdad Bobs there are, it seems doubtful.
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They’re clearly incompetent, but they don’t see it that way. In their minds, a 17-hour response time probably counts as being prepared since TP1 took about a month or longer to plan. With all their generals wiped out in a safe house, they likely see it not as their own failure but as Israel’s efficiency.
 
mangekyo said:
They’re clearly incompetent, but they don’t see it that way. In their minds, a 17-hour response time probably counts as being prepared since TP1 took about a month or longer to plan. With all their generals wiped out in a safe house, they likely see it not as their own failure but as Israel’s efficiency.
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At least this Israeli operation was a learning experience. These guys needed a hard punch in the face like that to teach them anything.

Now they know how unprepared they were.

Hopefully they learned something and are taking necessary steps to address the shortcomings and better prepare.
 
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@Hack-Hook what can we do about these people
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Tell me what to do with this guy
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Israel "won" so hard they had to beg the Americans to end the war!
 
On the battlefield, Iran fared well and can be considered the victor, especially since it faced alone a coalition of 50 countries that helped "Israel."

But, Iran will never have a "narrative" of victory because it doesn't have media, and the Western media is controlled by Zionist Jews, and Iran could have "alien weapons" and still be defeated in the Zionist Western media narrative.

NOTE: Look now at the case of the Wikipedia website, which recently removed the page on the Gaza genocide, claiming that there is no evidence of a genocide! That only Hamas members and "very few civilians" died... this is an example of a "parallel reality" created by the Zionist Jewish world order.
 
Bharatah said:
On the battlefield, Iran fared well and can be considered the victor, especially since it faced alone a coalition of 50 countries that helped "Israel."

But, Iran will never have a "narrative" of victory because it doesn't have media, and the Western media is controlled by Zionist Jews, and Iran could have "alien weapons" and still be defeated in the Zionist Western media narrative.

NOTE: Look now at the case of the Wikipedia website, which recently removed the page on the Gaza genocide, claiming that there is no evidence of a genocide! That only Hamas members and "very few civilians" died... this is an example of a "parallel reality" created by the Zionist Jewish world order.
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Gaza genocide - Wikipedia

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The article is still there and protected against IDF online army. Look at the talk page with all the zionists begging for deleting the article or dismiss it as "Hamas fake news"

They can't remove it because an overwhelming majority of non-Hamas/IDF sources proves the genocide, removing it will shatter Wikipedia's already bad reputation into ashes
 
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