Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

It doesn't necessarily needs to be a shia, could be any Muslim or non-Muslim human with self conscience

Right.
I believe Iran is trying to avoid hurting average civilians in Arab countries as much as possible because they are potential assets. The Israel-Gaza war generated a lot of anger in the Arab world.
It will be very bad for the American bases there if sabotages start: Polluting water supplies and food, hit and run, even shoulder fired projectiles. Not impossible if the war drags on and people see alien people in their midst as the cause of their miseries.
 
Nonsense. Hundreds of thousands of Chinese soldiers died in the Korean War defending their NK Ally, have you forgotten that?
Weren't they actually defending their own borders by getting in Korea? ;)
 
You have to wonder how many billions the Arabs are now spending of their own money to defend Israel.

You can be sure that the USA will not replace those missiles for free as recompense ..
what missiles are these ?
 
US reputation amongst Arabs now taking a hit, US/Israeli/Arab interceptor stockpiles depleting. US losing aircraft and men.

Xi and Putin feet up watching the show. This, by default, will quicken China's military rise and I would say standing in the Middle East after all this is over
 
Sure, but even SAM operators will be managed by Kuwaiti/US officers no?
no, Kuwait has a plethora of air defense systems acquired from a variety of international suppliers. These systems are not operated by very competent, experienced and motivated personnel. I mean the Kuwaiti armed forces disappeared overnight when Saddam invaded Kuwait so my expectations are low.
 
You need to disregard many protocols to shoot down 3 of your friendlies. 1, maybe, 2, well, you are pushing it. 3 means either they care F all about those jet or they are doing this on purpose.

Why 'on purpose'? After the bad news of the 3 US Servicemen killed, 3 downed jets is embarrassing.
 
You need to disregard many protocols to shoot down 3 of your friendlies. 1, maybe, 2, well, you are pushing it. 3 means either they care F all about those jet or they are doing this on purpose.

They run on the same C4I structure (at least when I was there in 2003). There would be either a US Air Force colonel in charge of AD or a USAF liaison if the base is small. And you don't generally do that before you launch a missile anyway. I once had a British Tornado drift into our AO in Afghanistan by accident. They shut down the entire grid to make sure everyone is on the same page, so nothing stupid would happen.

I dunno, maybe they are incompetent to this level? Otherwise, they know it was USAF F-15s.
there is a possibility that PAC 3 battery was on auto mode.

this mode use to be on MIM-23 I-Hawk, i still remember one battery was in auto-mode unmanned in starting of Gulf war 1992 at Kuwait, it opened fire automatically shot down SU-22s and Mi-17 helicopters of Iraq.

I think PAC-3 battery was on Auto Mode.
 
no, Kuwait has a plethora of air defense systems acquired from a variety of international suppliers. These systems are not operated by very competent, experienced and motivated personnel. I mean the Kuwaiti armed forces disappeared overnight when Saddam invaded Kuwait so my expectations are low.

Ah, my bad, I thought they only operated PAC-3 in that role
 
If Iran survive this onslaught and illegal war that was imposed on them, They will have my outmost respect and I bet that even Americans will have a huge respect for the Iranians at this point, not the cunts like Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz types the sell out but the Generals/Officers/soldiers. I don't expect the same from IDF as they are scum and have no honor and dignity.

And to all the ME/Arab countries, Russia/China all cowering, Specially Arabs who allowed their own countries to be bombed for letting America/Israel use their Air space and countries to kill Iranian civilians, I don't care whether Shiite Sect is right or not but at this Point Rasool Allah nor his close Companions would side with the Arabs and for what they have become.
 

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