Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

How do we always manage to find ourselves in these situations

Vicarious entanglements!!

Pitfalls of a pact where one party has more than patron and host. That helped second world war expand as intended.

Pakistan must get its exposure straightened. That a war started by a third party actor using Saudi soil or facilities will not bind Pakistan in a defense of that parties engagement or response thereof...

To avoid the trip wire of a cascading conflict where Pakistan may end up on the same side as zion with no choice of it's own. Pakistan is NOT party to any of bilateral deals between Saudis and third party states... such as US... neither os US obligated to come protect or serve Pakistan for any of its conflicts.. The pacts must therefore be mutually exclusive within their domains.

AND THERE SHOULD BE NO QUALMS OR AMBIGUITY ON THESE

 

[Master Chief]

I suspect the same, if they trust the US they are donkeys. During the entire Syrian war they were used and betrayed by the US multiple times.

Folks tend to make this interpretative error repeatedly - that repeatedly using these rebel groups to achieve American objectives is in itself a demonstration of "foolishness" e.g. Kurds, Monarchists.

At one level - yes - the rank and file ideologues are certainly very foolish for repeatedly dreaming that an American deep state promise will deliver their redemption; there is another level within these hierarchies, a level above which only corruption exists. The leaders of these groups have always known Americans won't follow through after expending them as cannon fodder. Those leaders take the pay cheque for their cooperation and send the simpletons to the front line to enable the terms of the contract.

 

[Fatman17]

 

[RescueRanger]

12000

Why is this surprising to anyone

Feel free to google War Reserve Stocks for Allies–Israel (WRSA-I). And what this means.

 

[Bengal71]

Folks tend to make this interpretative error repeatedly - that repeatedly using these rebel groups to achieve American objectives is in itself a demonstration of "foolishness" e.g. Kurds, Monarchists.

At one level - yes - the rank and file ideologues are certainly very foolish for repeatedly dreaming that an American deep state promise will deliver their redemption; there is another level within these hierarchies, a level above which only corruption exists. The leaders of these groups have always known Americans won't follow through after expending them as cannon fodder. Those leaders take the pay cheque for their cooperation and send the simpletons to the front line to enable the terms of the contract.

Yeah, I think the same. No way the Kurds can seriously commit to it. Iran will be a meat grinder for them.

 

[Gripen9]

US had 60,000 casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan (killed/wounded and includes US military and US contractors.) with no real achievements, Iraq today is firing on US embassies and bases, 23 years after invasion, Afghanistan is a total lose and waste, yet no lessons were learned.

I said at the start of this war, US may deploy ground troops into southern Iran to unblock the strait and northwestern Kurd areas, to train and use to destabilize Iran like they did with kurds in syria. I do think the US is miscalculating, and this will be a bad decision.

But both resulted in a massive transfer of wealth from the people (taxes) to the MIC. Iraq was taken off the threat board for Israel and no one knows who controls Iraq's oil?

 

[Goenitz]

He is Mikaeil Mirdoraghi, class third student who was killed in US-Israel strike in Iran He is saying goodbye to his mother while going to the school

 

[mulj]

Direct threat to China. China would need to help Iran assemble missiles ASAP that can reach Israel. If Israel is not subjected to damage and casualties the US will pull through on this

Casualties in Israel + critical infrastructure in Israel targeted = US more likely to abandon such war aims

Bro, you need to take some time off from this fox idiotic propagandist channel.

 

[retaxis]

Israel wants to expand and eliminate all rivals that they can not control

After Iran, israel will carve up Turkey to remove the last regional power in the region. Israel will use secular Turks against the gov as well as Kurds.

 

[Gripen9]

C-40 is 737. I think they are transporting casualties out of Bahrain.

 

[RescueRanger]

World is on edge of WWIII, over 1400 Iranians have lost their lives and someone thought this was newsworthy:



White people going to white...

 

[RescueRanger]

C-40 is 737. I think they are transporting casualties out of Bahrain.

C40 Callsign Convoy is a passenger bus of the US Airforce and Navy it is assigned to both VIP and non tactical troop movements.

Deceased are transported in C17s.

 

[Gripen9]

C40 Callsign Convoy is a passenger bus of the US Airforce and Navy it is assigned to both VIP and non tactical troop movements.

Deceased are transported in C17s.

I think the navy has a madevac version for their own (USN) transport. Not deceased but Injured. Why would you have 3 of them transit out. Unless they are withdrawing whatever officers/sailor that are left in Bahrain for good.

 

[Gripen9]

Which run off electricity and that needs to be generated by power stations which are powered by oil/gas, except the nuc and solar/wind generation ones.

Washington state where I am in, 70% is Hydro/Solar/Wind, 10% Nuc, remainder is fossil fuels...

 

[PakSword]

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