Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Oscar]

My concern is that how’s being presented to Trump by his inner circle of clowns. Also you can find quotes by Trump during the 1980s about Kharg island during the Iran-Iraq war where he is saying US should capture it to punish Iran for the hostage crisis. The thought of Kharg Island has already been cemented in his brain for decades.

And I think in this administration Pentagon generals don’t have permission to speak freely for fear of their careers.

Kharg island is being sold as a propaganda victory for Trump.

Hegshits appointment ensured that meritocracy dies in the Pentagon post the woke massacre that Biden brought in - one extreme replaced the other.

 

[maverick]

New Angle

It hit something but does not seem like it hit the aircraft...

 

[Magi]

In that case, 70K is enough and is a serious threat.

What are they planning? Enter Saudi from the Red Sea and somehow get to Khark, Abu Musa or Qeshm? Or go through Syria-Iraq? That sounds hazardous with PMUs. Their landing ships are useless if they can't cross the strait. Or will they try to land at Chabahar and march on land toward the strait? That sounds extremely dangerous. Maybe a combination of these? None of this makes any sense.

If they go ahead, Saudi/UAE troops will likely do a blind yolo push for Abu Musa and the Tunbs.

 

[dbc]

Which could make TONS of money providing a land route and pipeline for other GCC states to ship their oil out - maybe MBS sees this angle??

not possible technically, and politically Saudi will prefer their GCC cousins a little poorer.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Did Johnson and Nixon say stuff like this?

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The President is not wrong regarding the far left wing of the Democrat Party.

 

[PakSword]

Did Johnson and Nixon say stuff like this?

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They only would think like that.

This asshole is uttering his thoughts both verbally and in writing.

 

[ShapurII]

What are they planning? Enter Saudi from the Red Sea and somehow get to Khark, Abu Musa or Qeshm? Or go through Syria-Iraq? That sounds hazardous with PMUs. Their landing ships are useless if they can't cross the strait. Or will they try to land at Chabahar and march on land toward the strait? That sounds extremely dangerous. Maybe a combination of these? None of this makes any sense.

If they go ahead, Saudi/UAE troops will likely do a blind yolo push for Abu Musa and the Tunbs.

Do they have to cross the strait though?

I think Kharg and Qeshm are reasonable targets for the Americans. And as you said, the UAE will probably go for the 3 islands simultaneously.

 

[The SC]

 

[ShapurII]

The President is not wrong regarding the far left wing of the Democrat Party.

Wrong or not, it is hilarious to compare Trump with Nixon. Completely different people, almost on the opposite sides of the spectrum.

 

[Aggregate]

It hit something but does not seem like it hit the aircraft...

It did release the shrapnel .. there were some sparks over the wing, though the quality is too bad to assess if the wing was damaged.

Though its primary purpose is to damage aircraft via shrapnel .. so hopefully it did the only one job that it had.

 

[maverick]

23 years of theft .

This is what French post colonial model is. 14 African countries deposits all their earnings in French Treasury, they can only withdraw 10 or 20% of it for their budget, the rest they have to get from France on interest and loans. Same is going on in Iraq, oil theft.


14 African Countries Who Still Pay Colonial Tax To France
BY: CSGLOBE

14 African Countries Who Still Pay Colonial Tax To France14 African Countries are Still Forced Nowadays by France to Pay Colonial Tax for the Benefits of Slavery and Colonization
80% of the 10 countries with the lowest literacy rates in the WORLD among adults are in francophone Africa.
Namely: Benin (40%), Burkina Faso (26%), Chad (34%), Côte d’Ivoire (49%), Guinea (29%), Mali (23%), Niger (29%), and Senegal (42%).
This spectacular result is achieved after over 150 years of French colonization!
During the almost 200 years of French colonization in Africa and Asia, France has built only ONE university in their entire colonies.
It was in Indochina.

After 150 years of French colonization of CAR (Central African Republic) there was only ONE person with a PhD degree when the country became independent in 1960.
However, France continues to collect rent on the colonial buildings they have left in these countries, and 14 African countries are still forced nowadays by France to pay colonial tax for the benefits of slavery and colonization.
Imagine the US still paying RENT to the British for the White House for instance, or Russia to collect rent from the vast public housing they have built through eastern Europe during soviet union occupation.
Now take note of this. When Eastern European countries got their independence in the 90s from the Soviet Union Empire, ALL those countries without exception achieved 100% literacy rate, thousands of well trained engineers, doctors, many universities, etc. and lot of housing, transportation and energy infrastructure,…

 

[LeonBlack08]

Trump literally admits while bragging - the reason US carriers are so far out and possibly USS Gerald Ford did end up getting hit to some degree.

Nobody briefed him on OpSec.

 

[RescueRanger]

The real suprise might come from the East

 

[Immortals]

Did Johnson and Nixon say stuff like this?

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Keep in mind I think the statistic is something where 51% of US troops are white. The rest are black, Hispanic, Asian, and other minorities.

Thus the stomach for casualties by the U.S. is likely much higher since the deaths will likely be the poor and minority class of America.

 

[Oscar]

not possible technically, and politically Saudi will prefer their GCC cousins a little poorer.

Which they are getting anyway due to this but what is the technical barrier - I can see it as a throughput issue with KSA able to cater to its own infrastructure technically but to really have it as a multinational projects would need guarantees.

Would we simply not facilitate this if it turns out (as it looks to be) we replaced Khameni with Khameni and call it a day?