Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

Irán has a much more powerful weapons than US blockade... Inflation. In EU there are problems for avgas (kerosene), to the point the EU Comission is suggesting to rationalize kerosene and cancel as much as flights as possible.

Not to talk about the oil price and another supplies like fertilizers.

With 43 millions americans asking US food stamps, two or three points of inflation can push another 5 or 6 millions to poverty.

Do you think public oppinion would support this bastard in his blockade?.

some problems:

- impact on US is more limited than impact on EU
- impact on Iran is starting to exceed impact on US
- unclear that Iran can outlast the US in this game, if the US is willing to sacrifice the global economy for a few months

 

[ShapurII]

Irán has a much more powerful weapons than US blockade... Inflation. In EU there are problems for avgas (kerosene), to the point the EU Comission is suggesting to rationalize kerosene and cancel as much as flights as possible.

Not to talk about the oil price and another supplies like fertilizers.

With 43 millions americans asking US food stamps, two or three points of inflation can push another 5 or 6 millions to poverty.

Do you think public oppinion would support this bastard in his blockade?.

Iran's inflation is approaching 3 digits. Do you think economic pressure works one way only?

Public opinion is of zero relevance to what the decision makers in the US will do.

 

[Shags101]

I just have to this after reading someone’s post but I don’t want to tag any names

 

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Oky i ignored one X handle but now its everywhere….

More regime change in the US.

Americans voted in a winner here called trumpy pumpy, the guy talks about regime change so much his changing his own regime.

 

[lightning f57]

-Did 26 Iranian ships really slip past the American blockade in the Strait of Hormuz? Not even close. Fresh on-scene reporting confirms zero evidence any vessels left Iranian ports or navigated the area at all. This was Tehran’s propaganda push from the jump, and the US blockade is holding firm. Facts like these cut through the noise fast.

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Fox news....really?

That is the real fake news.

 

[ShapurII]

 

[Pak-Warrior]

How do you think Yemen started to produce missiles and drones? Do you think they did that on their own?

The Houthis of Yemen were a group of rebels fighting with AK47s against the Saudi-backed Yemeni government. Iran armed them and helped them capture Sana'a and form a government. For years, Iran was violating UNSC resolutions to arm the Houthis of Yemen. In other words, if they are not willing to do something for us when we need it, they're a bad investment.

where do you think they got liquid and solid fuel medium range ballistic missiles, anti-ship ballistic missiles, air defence missiles, etc, from?

Iran armed houthis, so they can fight against GCC (Iran's other enemies). Houthis already served that purpose for years. Also Iran didn't come itself to their aid. Jumping into war is a whole different ball game then assisting with weapons. In return, Iran is expecting them to put their life on line and jump directly into its war which has nothing to do with houthis. Anyways, they already fired missiles at Israel and most likely are keeping its stock for later use.

Houthis were the only ones who stood for Gaza. They were viciously attacking shipping lines during genocide putting pressure that calm in red sea is via calm in Gaza. No other country including Iran did anything. Every country is selfish but Houthis are most selfless people. They can put their lives and their children lives in line for the cause they seem as just. Its their choice and its their timing whenever they'd do the next move.

 

[Immortals]

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[SolarWarden]

I thought the information came from Western sources using satellite imagery?

This sort of thing is not something you can make up and accept people to buy it. There's plenty of evidence that many Iranian vessels have passed through the US blockade. There is zero doubt about that. Maybe not 26, but definitely more than 10.

Information came from DoW.

 

[ShapurII]

Information came from DoW.

I was talking about the claim that 26 vessels have passed through the blockade. It wasn't a claim by Iran, but by Western sources based on satellite imagery.

 

[SaadH]

It will cost US billions a week to keep the blockade…. Plus tonnes of resources will be wasted….. and US has more to lose if Iran is self reliant on food (majorly)

Costs are irrelevant to US empire, they'll just print more dollars.

 

[ShapurII]

Iran armed houthis, so they can fight against GCC (Iran's other enemies). Houthis already served that purpose for years. Also Iran didn't come itself to their aid. Jumping into war is a whole different ball game then assisting with weapons. In return, Iran is expecting them to put their life on line and jump directly into its war which has nothing to do with houthis. Anyways, they already fired missiles at Israel and most likely are keeping its stock for later use.

I'm not following your logic here. You say Iran armed Houthis to fight back, but you right after that say Iran didn't come to their aid. Last time I checked, funding a war and providing one of the sides with lethal weapons is a form of aid.

They jumped into war over Palestine that has done nothing for them. If Iran falls, the Houthis of Yemen won't last a year without Iran. They owe their entire existence to Iran.

Houthis were the only ones who stood for Gaza. They were viciously attacking shipping lines during genocide putting pressure that calm in red sea is via calm in Gaza. No other country including Iran did anything. Every country is selfish but Houthis are most selfless people. They can put their lives and their children lives in line for the cause they seem as just. Its their choice and its their timing whenever they'd do the next move.

And that makes them a bad investment. If they are willing to risk their lives for Palestine but not for Iran, then they're a useless investment. Next time that Israel, the US or Arabs want to defeat them, they can ask Palestinians to arm them.

On a side note, Iran has sacrificed the entire Iranian economy over the issue of Palestine, and we are now fighting with Israel and the US over the same issue. So, use your brain before you say Iran has done nothing for Palestine. The mere existence of groups like Hezbollah and Houthis is the result of our support for Palestine.

 

[Shags101]

Fox news....really?

That is the real fake news.

Yeah they have become a total mouthpiece for Trump you know when he attempted that little insurrection several years back I thought maybe they would tone it down and try to go back to being a real news source nope it looks like they triple down are far worse than the days of oreily and Tucker damn Tucker is considered a moderate in comparison

 

[Hazard]

Costs are irrelevant to US empire, they'll just print more dollars.

This is spot on. I don't think many people realise the hold USA has over the world. As their currency is world's reserve currency, they simply just print more dollars and let the rest of the world pay for it (through inflation). I remember during Covid, they sent out cheques to every citizen in US of something like $1000 dollars each. Every single citizen. Guess what it did? Inflated everything traded in dollars, the peasants around the world paid for it. Its insane.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

And that makes them a bad investment. If they are willing to risk their lives for Palestine but not for Iran, then they're a useless investment. Next time that Israel, the US or Arabs want to defeat them, they can ask Palestinians to arm them.

On a side note, Iran has sacrificed the entire Iranian economy over the issue of Palestine, and we are now fighting with Israel and the US over the same issue. So, use your brain before you say Iran has done nothing for Palestine. The mere existence of groups like Hezbollah and Houthis is the result of our support for Palestine.

Proxy wars are meant to keep your enemies busy / destabilize. Houthis fighting against GCC. Hezbullah against Israel. These were Iran's strategic objectives to keep using other people for your own long term goals & influence over the region.

So Iran's enemies keep themselves busy against proxies and not hit Iran's mainland. That's what was happening until recently / last year.

If IRan really wanted to fight for Palestine then it could have attacked Israel directly. Don't fund or arm proxies for your strategic goals but fight directly if you are selfless. Iran choose otherwise.