Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

When a missile is launched from Iran, how many obstacles does it face on its way to Israel?

Obstacles from Iran to Israel:

1. American military ships in the Persian Gulf
2. Israeli radars in Azerbaijan
3. Israeli radars in Turkmenistan
4. Air defense systems of American bases in Iraq
5. Air defense of the American base in Syria
6. American radars in Saudi Arabia
7. Radars in Qatar
8. Radars in Iraq
9. Radars in Kuwait
10. Radars in the UAE
11. Radars in Bahrain
12. British radar in Oman
13. NATO radar systems in Turkey
14. Jordanian air defense
15. American fighter jets in the skies over Jordan
16. American fighter jets in the skies over Israel
17. British fighter jets in the skies over Jordan
18. British fighter jets in Israel
19. French fighter jets in the skies over Jordan
20. French fighter jets in the skies over Israel
21. Air defense of American ships in the Red Sea
22. American ships in the Mediterranean Sea
23. British air bases in the region

After entering Israeli airspace:

24. Ultra-modern American TPY-2 radar
25. Ultra-modern American THAAD missile defense system
26. Israeli Arrow 1 and 2 missile defense system
27. "David's Sling"
28. "Iron Dome"

In fact, Iranian missiles overcome the most extensive, expensive, advanced, and dense air and missile defense system in the world and still strike Israel.

WMN

non-sensical post, only meant for emotion harvesting.

1. IR manufactures 3D radars, so, they know how to circumvent radars with drones.
2. IR has satellites and network of OTH radar, it also has the ability to monitor BM.

if despite having these two tech, IR does not (or cannot) penetrate IS airspace efficiently, with drones, it simply does not has the ability to wage a war, IR know it well

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

New sanctions against Iran dropped from America right after the meeting in Oman ended.

 

[ShapurII]

Name "all" of there family members that live abroad

Larijani's daughter, Ghalibaf's son, Khatami's daughter, Pezeshkian's son, Rafsanjani's family, do I need to say more?

According to the IR itself, over 4,000 high ranking officials have their families abroad or have dual citizenships. And the ones that do not live abroad like Shamkhani's son, have multi-billion business ties with regional and international countries like the UAE and Europe.

In addition to that, hundreds of Iranian officials received US green cards after signing the JCPOA. This is a fact that has been exposed by the USA and never challenged by the Islamic Republic, even confirmed unofficially by right-wing media who dislike Zarif.

 

[mulj]

New sanctions against Iran dropped from America right after the meeting in Oman ended.

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At this point negotiations are used as shadow by both sides to prepare better for upcoming war.

 

[VCheng]

it's not hard for anyone to understand Americans

Of course, everyone on this forum, and the rest of the world, finds it so easy to understand Americans, except that the Americans are too stupid to understand themselves.

Ideally, if only USA took its direction of foreign policy from Iran, things would be so peaceful in the Middle East.

 

[VCheng]

Attack will come this weekend, attack will come in 2 hours, this week guys I'm sure, US will attack this week... We got it, people here want to predict the attack time just so they can say "see, i was right" after to boost their ego on the internet even if they made 100 prediction posts before doing the right prediction

Funny how these same people are so quiet when their predicted attack does not happen - only to come back and make the same predictions again.

 

[ShapurII]

@ShapurII

I never said Iran Intl. was a credible source, did I?
And I never cited their 40K figure. But I still think the real figure is somewhere near the 5K-10K range based on the news I have received from my own friends.

I have a friend whose cousin was killed in the protests. I have another friend whose friends was killed in the protests. Both lived in Tehran, where protests were much less violent than in Lur-majority cities. When a random person already knows more than a single person that has been shot dead, it means that the number is probably much higher than 3K in all of Iran, just purely based on statistics and guestimation.

In comparison, during covid-19 outbreak, I knew only of 4 people around me that died due to covid. And covid killed over 120K people in Iran.

 

[ShapurII]

These indirect negotiations are absurd and inefficient.

Even Russian and Ukrainians meet directly for negotiations and they have been killing each other for past 3 years.

Would it make a difference? It seems that the general consensus is that both Iran and the US are using negotiations to buy time to better prepare for the upcoming conflicts.

Remember how Maduro directly talked to Trump over phone? Trump said Maduro was even ready for accepting the US terms but it was too late and he no longer wanted a deal.

 

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[tsunset]

non-sensical post, only meant for emotion harvesting.

1. IR manufactures 3D radars, so, they know how to circumvent radars with drones.
2. IR has satellites and network of OTH radar, it also has the ability to monitor BM.

if despite having these two tech, IR does not (or cannot) penetrate IS airspace efficiently, with drones, it simply does not has the ability to wage a war, IR know it well

At this point then what is the purpose of being the president of the US if every single of your decisions including domestic ones are controlled by foreigners who don't care of your country?

Trump is in a vicious never ending circle because of the little girls he raped

 

[Navid09]

Larijani's daughter, Ghalibaf's son, Khatami's daughter, Pezeshkian's son, Rafsanjani's family, do I need to say more?

According to the IR itself, over 4,000 high ranking officials have their families abroad or have dual citizenships. And the ones that do not live abroad like Shamkhani's son, have multi-billion business ties with regional and international countries like the UAE and Europe.

In addition to that, hundreds of Iranian officials received US green cards after signing the JCPOA. This is a fact that has been exposed by the USA and never challenged by the Islamic Republic, even confirmed unofficially by right-wing media who dislike Zarif.

Name them plz with proof. Larijanis daughter is the only one I can find information on.

Yes please say more with names and proof.

I listed around 10-20 highest influential ppl in Iran from past few years, tell me of there children being abroad too.

 

[mulj]

I never said Iran Intl. was a credible source, did I?
And I never cited their 40K figure. But I still think the real figure is somewhere near the 5K-10K range based on the news I have received from my own friends.

I have a friend whose cousin was killed in the protests. I have another friend whose friends was killed in the protests. Both lived in Tehran, where protests were much less violent than in Lur-majority cities. When a random person already knows more than a single person that has been shot dead, it means that the number is probably much higher than 3K in all of Iran, just purely based on statistics and guestimation.

In comparison, during covid-19 outbreak, I knew only of 4 people around me that died due to covid. And covid killed over 120K people in Iran.

You can only speculate, one loss of life is to much, thing is that opposition sources lost all credibility and basically ridiculed them self in comparation with government claims which was backed up with sort of transparency.
Logical conclusion which follows is that anything what sources near opposition or foreign entities claim is blatant lie or requests harsh scrutiny even all claims in past against current regime are now doubtful as it is pretty much obvious that people abroad who are most vocal and prominent against iranian government are pathological liers.

 

[ShapurII]

Name them plz with proof. Larijanis daughter is the only one I can find information on.

Yes please say more with names and proof.

I listed around 10-20 highest influential ppl in Iran from past few years, tell me of there children being abroad too.

Fatemeh Larijani, USA.
Leila Khatami, USA.
Elias Ghalibaf, Australia.

Hector Shamkhani has multi-billion dollar business links in the UAE (Milavous Group Ltd.)

به گفته گلپایگانی، دبیر ستاد امر به معروف، مشخص شده است که بین سه تا چهار هزار نفر از فرزندان مسئولان ساکن خارج از کشور هستند
Source: https://www.tabnak.ir/fa/news/1253689

Rafsanjani's family is so well-known to have Canadian citizenship that even Faezeh and Mohsen never denied it.

The Obama administration granted citizenship to 2,500 Iranians, including family members of government officials, while negotiating the Iran nuclear deal, a senior cleric and member of parliament has claimed.
Source: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ob...00-iranians-during-nuclear-deal-iran-official

در روزهای گذشته حجت‌الاسلام مجتبی ذوالنور رئیس کمیته هسته‌ای کمیسیون امنیت ملی مجلس در گفت‌وگویی اعلام کرد: وقتی آقای اوباما در جریان بحث برجام تصمیم گرفت به آقایان حال بدهد، به ۲۵۰۰ نفر از ایرانیان تابعیت اعطا کرد و برخی آقایان و مسوولان با یکدیگر مسابقه گذاشتند که فرزندانشان جزو این ۲۵۰۰ نفر باشند. امروز اگر این افراد از آمریکا اخراج شوند، مشخص می‌شود که چه کسانی زد و بند دارند و منافع ملی را به آب‌نبات امریکا می‌فروشند.
Source: https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/872236 (Affiliated with IRGC)

The rest of what I said can be fact-checked on your own. You can fact-check each of them independently. I am not here to find information for you.

 

[mulj]

Fatemeh Larijani, USA.
Leila Khatami, USA.
Elias Ghalibaf, Australia.

Hector Shamkhani has multi-billion dollar business links in the UAE (Milavous Group Ltd.)

به گفته گلپایگانی، دبیر ستاد امر به معروف، مشخص شده است که بین سه تا چهار هزار نفر از فرزندان مسئولان ساکن خارج از کشور هستند
Source: https://www.tabnak.ir/fa/news/1253689

Rafsanjani's family is so well-known to have Canadian citizenship that even Faezeh and Mohsen never denied it.

The Obama administration granted citizenship to 2,500 Iranians, including family members of government officials, while negotiating the Iran nuclear deal, a senior cleric and member of parliament has claimed.
Source: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ob...00-iranians-during-nuclear-deal-iran-official

در روزهای گذشته حجت‌الاسلام مجتبی ذوالنور رئیس کمیته هسته‌ای کمیسیون امنیت ملی مجلس در گفت‌وگویی اعلام کرد: وقتی آقای اوباما در جریان بحث برجام تصمیم گرفت به آقایان حال بدهد، به ۲۵۰۰ نفر از ایرانیان تابعیت اعطا کرد و برخی آقایان و مسوولان با یکدیگر مسابقه گذاشتند که فرزندانشان جزو این ۲۵۰۰ نفر باشند. امروز اگر این افراد از آمریکا اخراج شوند، مشخص می‌شود که چه کسانی زد و بند دارند و منافع ملی را به آب‌نبات امریکا می‌فروشند.
Source: https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/872236 (Affiliated with IRGC)

The rest of what I said can be fact-checked on your own. You can fact-check each of them independently. I am not here to find information for you.

This kind of objections i can understand and support highlighting it, for any politician is of utter importance is to minimize hypocrisy levels and this one is pretty high and easily punchable.

 

[ShapurII]

This kind of objections i can understand and support highlighting it, for any politician is of utter importance is to minimize hypocrisy levels and this one is pretty high and easily punchable.

The oligarchs in the Islamic Republic benefit from the US sanctions on Iran by circumventing them through their shadow fleet and money laundering in neighboring countries like Turkey and the Emirates. It's a multi-billion dollar business for them. They've made billions of dollars every year, while your average Iranian earns less than $200 per month.

Again, minimum wage in Iran at the moment is barely $87/month. Way behind the UN poverty line. Average salary is about $230 per month. Now imagine an oligarchy with links to the top of the power structure in Iran that earns billions of dollars annually. How long will people tolerate that?

Iran's oil income has become nearly halved since 2008. Average Iranian has lost about 78% of its purchasing power. Where has this extra 30% gone to?