Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

Iran simply doesn’t have enough air defense systems to counter 300+ fighter jets and 500+ LACM attacks. This isn’t something that can be changed that easily.

It's really surprising that people think our AD stands a chance against the US.
Both quality-wise and quantity-wise, we are extremely under-armed and they still think we stand a chance.

If we had at least enough S-300s, S-400s and Bavar-373s, we might've stood a chance. But 4 battalions of S-300 PMU2 and one operational Bavar-373, and a couple of S-200s and modified Hawks are not going to make a difference.

 

[Mehdipersian]

this is not how real life works

we are talking to America right now with Khamenei's approval

These are the Pezeshkian requests, and the khamenei accepts them.Khamenei knows these pedophile terrorists better than anyone else.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

These are the Pezeshkian requests, and the khamenei accepts them.Khamenei knows these pedophile terrorists better than anyone else.

I understand your emotions.

dear, in todays world, you will hurt yourself, fighting unnecessary wars

better to avoid and outlive crippling $

 

[Mehdipersian]

u HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE
u could have had nukes but u didnt go through , u could have had an airforce and s400s but u didnt buy them

either capitulate or be bombed into stone age

We will create another option: kill and fire missiles at terrorists until they raise the white flag. We have known for 47 years that we are going to fight NATO and Israel.

In war, we win in any case, whether we kill or are killed.

 

[Mujhe-Kyun-Tora]

Isfahan has a total population of 2 million. I think there are no more than 20,000 Jews in all of Iran. Most Iranian Jews immigrated to America and Israel in 1979.

Even if you have 10 of them . Use them . Do you have any other options?
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Keep them in a camp and put your military assets (Radar , Air defense jammer , missiles etc) inside that camp . Let usa and israel come and bomb it .
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iran don't have many options so avail every possible opportunity .

 

[hasssanali8998]

We have known for 47 years that we are going to fight NATO and Israel.

and yet u didnt prepare for it properly

dont take it the wrong way i hope iran survives but it not looking good brev

 

[Mehdipersian]

I understand your emotions.

dear, in todays world, you will hurt yourself, fighting unnecessary wars

better to avoid and outlive crippling $

Our worldview is different from yours. Money and wealth are not important to us.

Honor, courage, and following God's commands are important. Even if we are destroyed, we will be proud like Imam Hussein.

 

[tsunset]

Even if you have 10 of them . Use them . Do you have any other options?
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Keep them in a camp and put your military assets (Radar , Air defense jammer , missiles etc) inside that camp . Let usa and israel come and bomb it .

Local Iranian Jews have their place in Iran, they are born there and live like any other Iranian without harming anyone

Iran is not Nazi Germany or Israel to exterminate innocent people like that without any reason, they lived there for a long time and never bothered or harmed anyone in Iran

 

[Immortals]

we won't have luxury of waiting 17 hours to decide to fire first missile in response next time

This analysis that Iran’s pre-war air defense was somehow adequate is a farce.

It was held up by S-300 and 20+ year old TOR M1 and whatever left over from the old era like Hawk, S-200, BUK, rapier.

They simply weren’t producing Khordad variants, Tabas, Talash, in large enough amounts for point defense.

How many Zubin were built?



How many 9 day systems were built?



How many 15 Khordad systems were built?



How many Meharn “F-35 killer” systems were built?



How many Bavar?

How many Arman?

Etc.

You get the picture. When I asked where the satellite photos of all these amazing systems were, people on here laughed at me.

The problem with Iran and North Korea is they show you this diverse catalog of weapons. And when you look behind the curtain you realize they didn’t actually mass produce any of them.

We saw this with Iranian Humvees and MRAPs. And this idiotic leadership is now importing Russian Humvees after parading Aras for years.

Like I said, this war exposed IRGC and Iranian leadership to major corruption.

I’m sure there was a large segment that thought Israel or America would never attack Iran or dare to kill the Supreme Leader so they said why spend $30B on toys when when we can pocket half of it for ourselves? Now that segment is probably dead and if we are lucky we are seeing Iran rapidly scrambling to actually arm itself because it has just found itself in an existential crisis of its own doing!

 

[Mehdipersian]

and yet u didnt prepare for it properly

dont take it the wrong way i hope iran survives but it not looking good brev

Iran has a lot of things, but they haven't been ordered to use them. We have enough missiles to turn all of Israel into Gaza and burn down the entire region and American bases. Consider war with Israel as only 5% of Iran's firepower.

 

[Mujhe-Kyun-Tora]

Local Iranian Jews have their place in Iran, they are born there and live like any other Iranian without harming anyone

Iran is not Nazi Germany or Israel to exterminate innocent people like that without any reason, they lived there for a long time and never bothered or harmed anyone in Iran

Then get mentally prepared to get bombed day and night by their cousins israel and thier stooge usa .

 

[Bharatah]

If Iran didn't have the capacity to confront the US and Israel, iran would have been destroyed a long time ago, probably YEARS AGO, and Israel would be doing to Iran today what it does to the Gaza Strip. Iran today is fully capable of defending itself from an attack (as it has done in recent years, when it was attacked by this same equipment). Furthermore, Iran has equipment capable of destroying several US bases, its allies, and Israel. Iran also possesses a vast network of allies spanning over 10 countries, which is why the US has never invaded Iran in recent years and there will be no war. What could happen is a media attack and a "victory narrative" for the US/Israel with this attack or some agreement.

For example, they might say "Iran accepted an agreement that he will no longer make atomic bombs..." but Iran has never made atomic bombs! Do you understand? It's a victory narrative where the enemy will give up something he never did !. EX2: "We are here closing a deal between Ukraine and Russia because Russia agreed not to annex Paris, Berlin, and Brussels... Russia felt our power and backed down, so we closed this deal!"

NOTE: These are advanced mass manipulation tactics that ordinary people are unaware of.

 

[StrategicBear]

Watch this:

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Our worldview is different from yours. Money and wealth are not important to us.

Honor, courage, and following God's commands are important. Even if we are destroyed, we will be proud like Imam Hussein.

how can a person with 'honor, courage and under God's command' be blind and pathetic?!

I'd rather not choose blindness bec. my character will be spurious!

rest up to you

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I don't have the energy to debate this. But, here's a big one.......China didn't go full capitalistic, China did not open its economy......to this day, you can only have a minority stake in a Chinese co. It's still a very much a centrally controlled economy. Read up about Jack Ma and Ant IPO..for a good example.

True, China's fake capitulation was a window opportunity during that era, and it doesn't mean that Iran has to 100% replicate this one which is not even available anymore.

Right now, Iran needs to prepare to survive against the incoming onslaught.

Since China's deception in the 1980s, now the US will hysterically ask you for the real capitulation.

Since Maduro's vice president has double-crossed China by conspiring with the US, and China will not let Iran go this time, but the biggest problem remains with Iran's liberal faction inside the government.