Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[StrategicBear]

It's quite established fact that US has significantly reduced the capability of iran to fire MRBMs.
And who says US has ran out of targets in Iran?
Contrarily, US is commiting more and more strategic bombers to bring even higher firepower against Iran.

You forgot Iran has thousands of decoys too so the US will waste munitions on the wrong targets. And bombings can only destroy existing stocks if they get lucky and hit the correct sites; they can't stop production completely especially for the plants at underground mountain bases deeper than 300 meters below the mountain. Iran is a large country with 90+ million so there is a limit to what the US can achieve just from conventional aerial bombings unless if they want to use Nukes. Note that those Precision Munitions like JASSMs all needs Rare Earths to make, so every munition spent can't be replenished easily if China blocks export of REs to USA.

Therefore, to stop weapons production entirely inside Iran, they'd have to invade Iran by land to capture territory, which is an impossible task anyway.

 

[Ali_Baba]

To be honest, he is playing his cards right by being diplomatic. He is trying to control the damage and reassure his neighbours.

Everyone knows Trump is the biggest loser here. He knows he screwed up so badly and still have to run his mouth to prove he is victorious. He has cried wolf too much, and other than his MAGA supporters, no one really buy his words much.

A poorly crafted message by Iran that creates a sense of fear, of defeat through the use of defeatist language. There was no need to "apologise".

Trump has interpreted his message as weakness and any doubts Trump creates for himself, get washed away with these type of statements.

The message was poorly crafted and delivered. It maybe time to have a proper spokes person who makes these statements properly !!!!

 

[Bengal71]

Iran: *strikes several US Bases in 7 Arab countries for 7 days, destroying vital radars. none of the countries retaliate. Iran says the punishment for them is over, unless more US attacks come from their land.*

Trump: "Iran has surrendered to the Gulf Arab Countries."

Trumpedo forgot to take his medication today

But Pezeshkian shouldn't have said it either. It signals weakness.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[ToddE]

Trump confirmed that he just sank 117th ship of IRIN and IRGCN Just like Qataris downed the IRIAF fighters that cant fly.

In other news Jews and Trumpedo have lost ~30 MALEs UCAVs + 5 x F-15Es so far by their own count but IRGC is claiming 82 drones without specification how many were MALEs

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[clutch]

Iran could win.

America may have all the watches; Iran has the time.

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[Jugantor]

This is interesting. If the carrier is that close it means they know Iran can't hit them or won't hit them or they want Iran to hit them.

Talk about covering all your bases. You sure know how to cover all your bases

 

[Asif]

Iran..

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The feared scenario has unfolded. The U.S. military has finally launched an attack on Iran's desalination facilities.
They saw through the weak Iranian president, knowing he would never authorize retaliation against Arab desalination plants.
Future attacks will likely expand to oil facilities, power plants, and other targets.
The situation is extremely grave.

this wud be the Israelis mostly.. only they benefit in long term with Iranians retaliating by destroying the desalinatiin plants all along the saudi eastern borders including those in the countries facing Iran. GCC economy and popukation wud be cooked for a sizable future.
The strait wud definitely be done for the foreseable future.. the world economy wud crumble but Israel with unlimited support and donations from US and EU will ride the storm over their money.

 

[RescueRanger]

British Wildcat Anti Drone helicopters headed to Cyprus.

 

[VCheng]

If Trump genuinely believes his own hubris, it is to Iran's advantage.

Just keep in mind, one of his names is T.A.C.O.

 

[Aziqbal]

Planet Labs (often called Planet) is a U.S. satellite imaging company that operates one of the world’s largest fleets of Earth-observation satellites.
Satellite images show clear damage at several U.S. military sites in the Middle East hit by Iranian strikes:
•⁠ ⁠U.S. Fifth Fleet HQ in Bahrain: destroyed buildings and satcom terminals wrecked.
•⁠ ⁠Al Dhafra Air Base in UAE: hits on radars, comms gear, and facilities (including early-warning systems).
•⁠ ⁠Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in Jordan: THAAD missile defense radar blackened and surrounded by debris.
•⁠ ⁠Bases in Kuwait (like Ali Al Salem): multiple buildings showing projectile impacts and structural damage.
Source: Planet Labs

 

[StrategicBear]

Couple of points.

The fact that US are bringing in bombers is that they think the current bombing runs are inadequate.

What will US boots on the ground achieve? Considering additional assets and logistical support will be required to keep them safe. I still think US boots on the ground is a remote possibility. And in addition, the Iranian forces are deeply entrenched to inflict maximum damage and gain an advantage.

My friend, we will see a US Aircraft Carrier or an entire US fleet sunk by Hypersonic ASBMs, Sunburn Supersonic sea-skimming ASCMs, drones and mines before we see a single US soldier landing on Iran's coasts.

Trump will get what's coming for him.

 

[Hayabusa]

A poort message by Iran that creates a sense of fear, of defeat through the use of defeatist language. There was no need to "apologise".

Trump has interpreted his message as weakness and any doubts Trump creates for himself, get washed away with these type of statements.

The message was poorly crafted and delivered. It maybe time to have a proper spokes person who makes these statements properly !!!!

You are right. It came off wrongly. He should have choose his words better. But then again, he did reassure by reserving the rights to still strike any attacks carry out from their territory.

Trump is just dumb. He doesn't deserved to be talked about. He is a wuss himself being controlled by Setanyahu.

 

[MS Sandhu]

You forgot Iran has thousands of decoys too so the US will waste munitions on the wrong targets. And bombings can only destroy existing stocks if they get lucky and hit the correct sites; they can't stop production completely especially for the plants at underground mountain bases deeper than 300 meters below the mountain. Iran is a large country with 90+ million so there is a limit to what the US can achieve just from conventional aerial bombings unless if they want to use Nukes. Note that those Precision Munitions like JASSMs all needs Rare Earths to make, so every munition spent can't be replenished easily if China blocks export of REs to USA.

Therefore, to stop weapons production entirely inside Iran, they'd have to invade Iran by land to capture territory, which is an impossible task anyway.

Those warships that got sunk in ports & ocean were not decoys
Those missiles bases & nuclear facilities are not decoys,
Long Range Early Warning radars are no more, strategic SAMs are lost.
Americans have not built air dominance over by hitting decoys
They know what they have done and now feel confident to get their Aircraft Carrier just 350km near Iranian coast and are going to shift towards non stealth bombers

Soo much in just 7 days.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Not a bad idea to buy an EV for us and many billions of people still stands.

I already have one (Tesla Model Y) and the main reason was not about being green but to protest paying any more money to oil companies (and to legacy auto for supporting it with million part engines that break). I'd love to cover my nice sized roof with solar panels but I have yet to hear of anybody around here getting 100% of their power needs from it no matter how many panels they use..