Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

I wrote about it before. I’ll do a short version again. US wants to replace China as the global manufacturing base. The only way it can do that is with AI, and AI needs energy. If the US wins this war, they will control almost of the worlds oil flow. Then the only independent country left that can sell oil to China is Russia. This war is an existential war for China. But the chinese are unfortunately not the warrior type.
Manufacture what exactly? Who's going to buy made in American with its high labor costs and the high value of USD? They will have to devalue their own currency. And then how many Americans can even afford to work for $1 an hour?
 
The Iranians need to think very hard before engaging the aircraft carrier.

An attack on the carrier and inflicting damage would mean escalation ladder going up multifolds. Keeping it an arm distance is one thing but inflicting damage is another thing.
The US has already sank so many Iranian Navy ships.
Are Muslim Lives so cheap the non-believers can just come bomb and kill 1200+ Iranian civilians including schoolkids while a legit military target of the US carrier is treated as an "untouchable" ? Remember that Iran is going to kill 5000+ American naval personnel which is a military target and not civilian, so it shouldn't even be likened to 9/11 because that was a terror attack on innocent civilians but a US carrier like this is a legit military asset directly responsible for dropping bombs on Iran in a war, so sinking it should be fair game.

The whole world needs to grow a spine and resist harder against American Hegemony at any cost.
I already am on record here on this thread giving Iran my blessing and support to do whatever they can to rout the US forces even if it causes a Nuclear War/Winter, so Iran should go for the carrier if the backdoor off-ramp negotiations fail and Israel/USA Fanatical Regimes are Hell-Bent on invading and colonizing Iranian land and oil at any cost.
 
With this "Kheibar" type of cluster missile, around what stage of traversal/trajectory does it fragment into multiple munitions? And would a single interceptor or multiple interceptors require expenditure to stop that group of fragmented munitions?
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The Iranians need to think very hard before engaging the aircraft carrier.

An attack on the carrier and inflicting damage would mean escalation ladder going up multifolds. Keeping it an arm distance is one thing but inflicting damage is another thing.

I fundamentally disagree with this logic.

If Iran can hit that aircraft carrier, it must. Iran has failed to demonstrate that it can cause real harm to "any" part of the USA war machine except for static & expensive radars, where it has done well. The lack of damage to the war machine is only further encouraging Trump to push further into this war. Just look at how he responded to the Iranian statement earlier today, he saw victory in that statement, and it has to be corrected by the IRGC spokesman later on during the day.

If Iran can actually hit an aircraft carrier, they must must must do it asap.
 
I fundamentally disagree with this logic.

If Iran can hit that aircraft carrier, it must. Iran has failed to demonstrate that it can cause real harm to "any" part of the USA inventory except for static radars, where it has done well. The lack of damage to the war machine is only further encouraging Trump to push further into this war. Just look at how he responded to the Iranian statement earlier today, he saw victory in that statement, and it has to be corrected by the IRGC spokesman later on during the day.

If Iran can actually hit an aircraft carrier, they must must must do it asap .
Whatever they do they have a short window to do it. Once the BUFFS and Bones get airborn it wont be good.
 
Is there any evidence for that? That would be a pretty bad situation if random groups can launch missiles to foreign countries from a functioning State.

Almost literally the very next day, the topmost Iranian and Pakistani diplomats met each other and literally hugged, after launching attacks on each other the day before.
 
Iranian FM Araghchi:
"President Pezeshkian's openness to de-escalation within our region – provided that our neighbors' Airspace, Territory, and Waters are not used to attack the Iranian People – was almost immediately killed by President Trump's misinterpretation of our capabilities, determination and intent.

If Mr. Trump seeks escalation, it is precisely what our Powerful Armed Forces have long been prepared for..."


Irani diplomats need to take the gloves off, its time to say Pedophile trumpy in the tweets now, that will irk him more than anything.
 
Iran's biggest problem was not lack of human or natural resources--Iran exceeded Pakistan far better on both of those counts. Iran relied on the proxies as Iran's 'nukes', and Iran had no major powerful neighbor ready to attack and grab land unlike Pakistan has faced for 80 years. So Pakistan has evolved to be a powerful, ever vigilant 'security state' unlike Iran.
And Iran ventured into the territory of challenging a Super Power's progeny/master...
Having said that, I hope Iran comes out ahead from this conflict and I think they can if they fight as one nation and be willing to pay whatever price it takes; otherwise, the alternate is another Syria or Libya or Iraq (yes, even Iraq).
You sound just a liiitle bit bitter that Iran has challenged US militarily and is succeeding at it, or at least not clearly losing to US. Pakistan could've also made peace with India so it could free up its military capabilities to use it to gain power and influence by using it against the sole super power. Pakistan and iran made their choices, so let them live with them.
 

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