Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Khuzestan is THE SAME SIZE AS WEST VIRGINA

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You want to find one pilot in this remote region of Iran with no helicopters or specialized planes while the other side has satellites, GPS beacons and countless drones and Search and rescue looking for him?

I mean you guys really need to get your expectations in check.

When the US lost a F-35 in South Carolina it took them 24 hours to find the jet because the pilot ejected and the plane kept flying.

The only fair criticism is why more helicopters or the low flying C-130 wasn’t hit. But again they are shielded by mountains so you need some tribal warlords to have manpads sitting and waiting or an AA team that survived the intial sweep.
C-130 and MQ-9 and helicopters flying deep in Iran for hours in broad daylight ...

did we send all our MANPADs to other countries or something?

Artesh has no base in that entire province?
 
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Some sources say near Kharg Island, others say Khuzestan, and now they are saying neighboring provinces.

Fog of war.
 
capturing his dead body is still worthwhile

didn't our military leaders invite the US army to come to Iranian territory if they dare, and now they are flying over our border provinces for hours with helicopters in low altitude in daylight? they should have been better prepared for this.

now we know why they tried to order 3000 MANPADs from Russia (a bit late for that).
Capturing the pilot would be a huge morale boost. If a ground invasion is imminent, maybe Iran doesn't want to mobilize troops and risk losing tactical advantage or revealing its hand. Iran's success will largely depend on the local population defending its territory. I could be wrong, but that's the way I see it.
 
IDF admits its goal of disarming Hezbollah in Lebanon is unrealistic

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naturally, they couldn't disarm Hamas (yet), so they have no realistic prospect of disarming Hezbollah

They were hoping to get the Lebanese army to do their work for them.
 
C-130 and MQ-9 and helicopters flying deep in Iran for hours in broad daylight ...

Do you realize the earth is curved? A plane flying below a radar’s azimuth means it stays undetected. It’s not magic, it’s how radar waves work, they are blasted upwards from their source. Mountains block radar waves (assuming Iran has any)

So yes it wouldn’t be too hard for helicopters to fly 50-100KM inside Iran low and thru remote regions to find the pilots. Ukraine does this all the time.

did we send all our MANPADs to other countries or something?

Manpads have a range of a few KM. Again you think IRGC are sitting in mountains just hoping a plane flies above them in a country the size of most of Europe.

Artesh has no base in that entire province?

Bases were evacuated weeks ago. And it wouldn’t be Artesh mission. It would be spec ops team rapid deployment teams that would take the call.

Reza_mad claimed 2 hours before any news came out that the one pilot was rescued, that the pilot was rescued and another captured by Iran.

So let’s see if he’s right:

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Now even US helicopters are flying inside Iran at such low altitudes?

Can Iran not attack it with a drone if no air defence is available?
 
They were hoping to get the Lebanese army to do their work for them.

Lebanese "Army" does not do anything for anyone anywhere at all. Not their country, not their people and not for Israel either it seems. It should be "disbanded" and the money spent on better policing maybe ?
 
Yup, unless if you were building an Arial combat force along the lines and scope of PLAAF you'd have a small chance against combined NATO/US airforces, anything less would have been cut to size in the first days of conflict.

It was the right decision by the Iranian, probably taken after desert storm mauling of the vaunted Iraqi AF by US/NATO, that investing any amount of money/resources into the AF would have been an exercise in futility. However, it did leave them with near zero defensive capability.
Rightly said. I don't why some Pakistani keep bringing up Air Force silver bullet when the missiles are doing a much better job without wear and tear factor on the pilot and machine. The missiles took out much of the IADS in the region. What would have been the plan to attack the entity? Going through heavily defended air space where you're easily tracked?
Look at the indian air force in their failed May 2025 operation, started lobbing drones and missiles onto Pakistan. Even PAF had limitation or else they would have carry the advantage after the first day - which they didn't and decided to just sit back. Iran's IQ is top 5 in the world, they were prepared from day 1 - even I had to eat my own words. The problems with Islamic nations is that they want to fight like non-Muslims and when they get wrecked, they want to double-down. The Islamic way of war - fast, agile, wide spread over a large area is what expanded the Muslim's footprint. Iran is continuing that tradition. Whereas the West since the days of Ancient Greece were always heavy cavalry and infantry. Those ensure quick victories in short wars, but hit a wall in long, drawn out wars.
 
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good response to the UAE sending their UAV into Iran (which was shot down)...

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good response to UAE
 

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