Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Magi]

It can very likely encourage him to make bolder moves next time, particularly going for a ground invasion.

Sounds like they lost two C130s and almost didn't make it out. All this to rescue one pilot. Not exactly encouraging as far making bolder moves.

 

[Al-Zakir]

@Persian Gulf

The second pilot was rescued alive and kicking. Not a good look for us at all.

Definitely, not looking good for Iran. It's disappointing say the least.

That Reza guy is a hack.

 

[ShapurII]

You think they flew over Army positions and the Army was too scared to fire at them?

Is that all that you understood from my post? Seriously?

They were conducting CSAR ops deep inside our territory in two of our provinces where 99% of our oil comes from. Our troops didn't even get there after 24 hours.

Do you remember how you laughed when I said without an air force, you cannot even transport your troops where you need them? Now keep laughing.

 

[ShapurII]

Sounds like they lost two C130s and almost didn't make it out. All this to rescue one pilot. Not exactly encouraging as far making bolder moves.

That hasn't been confirmed yet.

 

[Kyussis]

That's embarrassing. Two C130's destroyed ?

Is Trump admin trying to pass this off as a victory ? How many more aircraft are we gonna lose ever since making Fox News host our Defense Secretary?

All these losses for 1 F-15 crew and people here are crying that It made Iran look bad because it didn't turn out like the Hollywood movie they think war is in their head!

 

[lightning f57]

Got to keep in mind no Iranian aircraft have been spotted for weeks flying anywhere in Iran so it would be very difficult to find and then secure that downed terrorist just by searching from ground.

Surprising thing for me was lack of manpad cover for these kind of low flying aircraft. There was reports Iran ordered a bunch ftom Russia if true it means they might lack sufficient coverage.

 

[flyingorca]

I told yall US will get their boys.

 

[Optical216]

What ramifications can we expect from this operation?

Here are my thoughts:

• US will likely go back to resorting to stand off munitions and reduce flights deep inside Iran or limit them to F-35 on limited incursions and B-2 aircraft for deeper ones
• U.S. will be less likely to want to fly deep into Iran to do the Isfahan uranium extraction option if they aren’t even willing to lose one or two pilots.
• Iran will likely realize (if it hasn’t already) considerable weaknesses in its rapid response forces to respond to threats in remote regions and will work to reinforce critical sites located in more remote areas and bases.
• Trump will likely feel that a ground game for the islands or coastline is safer bet than the uranium operation

Iran should make a rapid response force specialized for this kind of thing

 

[Immortals]

Iran is claiming to have downed some type of aircraft during operation:

 

[SolarWarden]

That's embarrassing. Two C130's destroyed ?

Is Trump admin trying to pass this off as a victory ? How many more aircraft are we gonna lose ever since making Fox News host our Defense Secretary?

I get you're pissed off but you are starting to sound desperate in finding a win in all this.

 

[Falcon29]

Idk how Iranian military works but I assume there's a commander for each province, no?

They were not prepared for such scenarios which makes sense if you look at bigger picture (nobody imagined a war would break out and in this manner ) , but it's a scenario that should be taken into account prior to war

What happens if they do a landing at Natanz now? Or wherever the uranium is hidden? If these C130s and helicopters are flying uninterrupted for hours over Iran it's not a good sign.

I don't see such a thing happening. But there is some ill - preparation on Iranian side

 

[Toxic]

All these losses for 1 F-15 crew and people here are crying that It made Iran look bad because it didn't turn out like the Hollywood movie they think war is in their head!

This is literally perfect Hollywood material, a pilot stranded in enemy territory for several days trying to evade combined with a CSAR operation that is stuff of legends.

 

[lightning f57]

I get you're pissed off but you are starting to sound desperate in finding a win in all this.

2 destroyed c130s a silver lining, anything to cause losses men or material is a win for Iran may not be as big as capturing the terrorist.

If true, however.

 

[Falcon29]

I get you're pissed off but you are starting to sound desperate in finding a win in all this.

I'm not Iranian, why would I be pissed off? I'm American and I'm pissed off that we're being ruled by an incompetent narcassistic man child and a incompetent administration that's incompetent in every single regard, raped the job market, is facilitating a humanitarian catastrophe in the Middle East that will hurt primarily Arabs and Iranians, is causing a hike in oil prices, shipping insurance, and all this cost is being passed onto the American consumer

Get your head out of sand and face reality dude this guy and his administration can go suck a

 

[TallarnDesertRaider]

Is that all that you understood from my post? Seriously?

They were conducting CSAR ops deep inside our territory in two of our provinces where 99% of our oil comes from. Our troops didn't even get there after 24 hours.

Do you remember how you laughed when I said without an air force, you cannot even transport your troops where you need them? Now keep laughing.

I do agree with the overall premise but...maintaining an air force capable of massive troop movements to counter this kind of CSAR operation would just get shot out of the sky unless you had a huge amount of AD present covering like all of your territory, an air force that could contest peer adversaries and above. But if you have all that you'd never need to counter a CSAR op because the war would be fought far from your borders.

Overall, just leaving it in the hands of whatever local commanders/forces and not trying to mobilize to capture one guy is probably the right call.