Kyussis
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Yes for Americans. Not for Iranians.
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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AZADPAKISTAN2009
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Director:
We need the "hooks" , with this pilot story to get Sympathy points for this failing war , and Elections
If you Die with Stroke , the movie was wasted
We need the "hooks" , with this pilot story to get Sympathy points for this failing war , and Elections
If you Die with Stroke , the movie was wasted
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SolarWarden
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Come on dude it's a success. Materials are replaceable a fighter pilot/person is not this is a win.
ShapurII
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To think that four battalions of S-300 PMU2 would be enough for a country the size of Iran is beyond absurd. And they insisted that we didn't need to purchase AD all the time. How many Bavar-373s were spotted in operation? We were defenseless all this time.
Even North Korea with a GDP that is 10-15 times smaller than Iran had a denser AD network than Iran prior to 2024, let alone now.
ShapurII
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They established complete air superiority over Iran in a few hours with about 200-250 jet fighters (including IAF), most of which are not even F-35s.
This could've been avoided had we invested in an air force. We might've lost eventually, but not in a few hours.
Falcon29
Elite Member
It's a lot more embarrassing for Americans.
1 F15
1 A10
1 Blackhawk
2 C130s
Iranians clearly didn't care to capture a pilot in that uninhabited area of Iran near the Gulf waters. And probably didn't know in the beginning it was a successful shoot down.
Trump admin is trying to spin this a victory
Actually according to some reports they even destroyed another A10 in the process
Immortals
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People getting mad that Iran didn’t find the operator in this region:
One side had thermal imaging + ISR + real time spy satellites + THE EMERGENCY BEACON LOCATION OF THE PILOT
the Iranian side had some nomads with hunting rifles, some Basij, and whatever local forces managed to get to the scene in their 1960s era vehicles. Keep in mind nearly all the forces probably lacked night vision goggles.
Maybe I’m coping, but the odds were always stacked against Iran due to the terrain and having no airforce ability.
People act like the pilot fell outside of Tehran.
FUB
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If any of you have ever worked with tracking devices you would understand the advantages that the Americans had .
Imagine you have a gps tracker installed in a car and you are trying to find the car in a city the size of Tehran. without access to the gps data ,It is virtually impossible to. The car can be anywhere and hidden in all sorts of structures . If you have the GPS coordinates, you can go to the precise location.
Americans have access to real live sat data and they were able to find him and drop in and grab him and get out .
Iranian planners, who lost their brothers and neighbors ( bachehaye mahal) during the 8 year because they did not have access to weapons made the right decision. We don’t have an Air Force because no one was willing to sell Iran anything . Even if we did, we could not match Israel and the US. They made the right choice to invest in missiles, drones, and a symmetric operations.
The US suffered over 2 billion dollars in losses from destruction of its aircraft.
Once you add the radars, bases, and cost of operations over the last 36 days , you are north of $50 billion dollars . Which country has given the US armed forces such a beat down since WWII? Which country has dared to defy the US and go to war and have the upper hand after 36 days ?
Today Buck Rogers saved America in a Hollywood setting with their trillion dollar defense budget . This war is far from over . Iran has the cards , and the US knows that otherwise they would not request a 48 cease fire .
Imagine you have a gps tracker installed in a car and you are trying to find the car in a city the size of Tehran. without access to the gps data ,It is virtually impossible to. The car can be anywhere and hidden in all sorts of structures . If you have the GPS coordinates, you can go to the precise location.
Americans have access to real live sat data and they were able to find him and drop in and grab him and get out .
Iranian planners, who lost their brothers and neighbors ( bachehaye mahal) during the 8 year because they did not have access to weapons made the right decision. We don’t have an Air Force because no one was willing to sell Iran anything . Even if we did, we could not match Israel and the US. They made the right choice to invest in missiles, drones, and a symmetric operations.
The US suffered over 2 billion dollars in losses from destruction of its aircraft.
Once you add the radars, bases, and cost of operations over the last 36 days , you are north of $50 billion dollars . Which country has given the US armed forces such a beat down since WWII? Which country has dared to defy the US and go to war and have the upper hand after 36 days ?
Today Buck Rogers saved America in a Hollywood setting with their trillion dollar defense budget . This war is far from over . Iran has the cards , and the US knows that otherwise they would not request a 48 cease fire .
ShapurII
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This is a victory for the Americans.
They rescued two pilots deep inside Iranian territory without a single solder killed in action. Let that sink in.
Cipher212
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The US has literal boneyards full of airframes that they can pick parts or entire working aircraft from. Even if we assume that in addition to the 2 C-130s and A-10, the damaged Blackhawks are also no longer operable, the Americans still don't care. For them actually the pilot is the more expensive equipment.
The symbolism of this and the movies its going to spawn is also worth it.
Still, this was just one small battle over 2 aircrew. Iran is doing far better than anyone could imagine in this war and recovering 2 airmen doesn't open the Strait of Hormuz or stop the missiles.
ShapurII
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I am mad that not even a single American was killed after a day of flying deep inside our territory.
how do you know they haven't lost a single soldier? the downed helicopter ? they all survived ?
flyingorca
SpeedLimited
No matter how we put this, US and A pulled off one of the coolest rescue operation in modern history.
