Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Temporary Ceasefire: let's see who it benefits the most:
US/Isr: get all the ships out of SOH, plenty of Oil for next few months. Just remember the oil flow hasn't stopped/reduced yet, it is due to start impacting in few weeks' time and that's because the ship that left SOH prior to the war starting are still arriving at their destinations with Oil, especially Europe/America, Far East etc and Oil reserves that have been tapped into. The real effect is starting to kick in shortly.
Time to regroup, reenergise, rearm: get the navy ships out and replace their crew, get more carrier groups in and send the existing ones home.
Get the interceptors from Rest of Wolrd in to ME and position them in. Maintenance on jets, logistics etc, ramp up production of missiles, ammunition and get it in place (USA is able to do this rather quickly)
And then they'll be back with a BANG and Iran is going to suffer 10 x worse.
What will Iran get during this Ceasefire?
Reprieve from bombardments, but that's about it. Realistically they can't ramp up production and regroup etc, as their infrastructure is badly damaged, and their missile cities are underground and currently running (I hope so). Russia will do F All, but will most certainly issue sweet and loving statements. China? I don't even know tbh, I doubt they'd offer much help. Pakistan? Well we don't really have anything tangible to offer Iran unfortunately, other than perhaps intelligence. Who else have I missed out?
So unfortunately for Iran Ceasefire, as much as its needed, isn't in Iran's favour currently. I know you guys are struggling and anyone with morals is on your side, but as things stand, you're better off at it. The other side is in deep sh*t, especially that tiny little illegal state and now is the time to pound these BCs. I wish you all the best and i hope my country (Pak) is supporting you in any shape/form.
 
This ceasefire talk is BS. If anyone dares to talk about it inside Iran, he or she should be hanged for treason. Any talk of ceasefire right now is the end of the country. US and Israel will be back again after a few weeks.

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Two facts must be confirmed:
In a few years, pipelines bypassing the Hormuz will be built in every GCC, rendering the blockade of the Hormuz an unusable card.
In a few years, US production of interceptor and cruise missiles will increase several times over, making it impossible for Iran to resist.
Therefore, a ceasefire now would certainly lead to Iran's demise within the next two to three years.
If Iran lacks the plan and courage to develop nuclear weapons after a ceasefire, then continuing the war is the only logical conclusion.
 
RescueRanger said:
How will PAKISTAN be seen as a "Traitor"?
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Some people are just overly emotional, Pakistan is trying to broker some cease-fire and peace in the region given our position, but people are not understanding the dire situation, its sad to see some Iranian members are falling for the "we will take on" narrative, there is a lot US can do to them, if you will keep Iran but its major economic/energy infrastructure gone then it will take them 3 decades to recover, and what if America attack in next 5 years? in 5 Years America will restock its inventory they can because of their 100x more industrial production, while Iran will in 5 years will only be done clearing the debris let alone any reconstruction, I understand Iran is skeptical about any deal, and they want permanent cease-fire, but arrogance of some Iranian posters will cost their country a lot more than what it is already done.
 
Basra oil is scheduled for the first time to be exported via the Turkish port of Ceyhan, a source at the North Oil Company said Monday, marking a new phase in Iraq’s oil export operations following a recent agreement between the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) and the federal government.

Iraq is trying to circumvent the Hormuz blockade. So far, Tehran didn't attack any energy infrastructure that is linked to Turkey. The pipeline has its limits, though. It can only carry 10% of Iraq's oil exports. Enough to survive but too little to live.
 
tsunset said:
Pakistan should distance itself from any deal, because the US/Israel will break and violate it at some point and Pakistan will be involved in this mess and seen as a traitor and be powerless about it

Unless this is a treaty recognized by the UN with solid guarantees, Pakistan should not be involved into this mess
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There is no country other than Pakistan that has equal stakes on either side of the gulf. Sure, Pakistan cannot get US out of the region and the statelets don't carry enough weight even if they wanted to have US depart. It was always going to be the neighbors, ones with real security challenges to demand they leave and now that Iran has been attacked, twice! It is rightful foe them to demand the exit as a clause.

It also elevates Pakistan as the met security provider where both Iran and Gulf Arabs can not only find a venue but enough muscle to tip the scale. That is a net positive for the region...

However, as I said this cannot go without resolving the underlying.
 
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This is 8 years old.....as if he could see into the future. Remains to be seen wether the last 2 lines become reality...
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This is the best comment:

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😂😂😂😂
 
Persian Gulf said:
Iran does not want an endless war. But from Tehran’s perspective, if the choice is between a temporary ceasefire after which the war is likely to resume, and continued fighting under current conditions, it is more likely to keep fighting, not to “open the straits” on someone else’s terms.

Any proposal put before Iran would have to include not only a halt to the current operation, but also a credible commitment that it will not be resumed - in effect, an end to the campaign. It would also have to narrow future talks to two issues only: Hormuz and the nuclear file, explicitly excluding missiles and support for regional allies. And those talks would have to take place on the assumption that Iran retains both its leverage over Hormuz and its nuclear capabilities.

From the Iranian point of view, this is the only realistic path to stopping the war.

Further escalation, including strikes on Iranian infrastructure, is unlikely to change these core calculations. If Washington is unwilling to move toward these terms, then it will eventually have to expand the war without illusions about the cost—particularly the enormous consequences for the global economy.
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Iran is in the strongest position its ever been geopolitically.

It has to extract maximum concessions now, reparations, lifting of sanctions and as you say focus on SOH and Nuclear programme. Anything else let trumpy face complete defeat, even if carries on his warcrimes.
 
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MH.Yang said:
A common sense.

A pilot who escaped by catapulting may never be able to pilot a fighter jet again. This type of pilot usually suffers from spinal compression fractures and neck and brain injuries.

Most pilots will permanently lose their qualification and ability to pilot fighter jets as a result.

Only a small number of pilots can resume piloting fighter jets after undergoing long-term and extensive medical testing and psychological evaluation, as well as undergoing simulator training, pilot training, solo training, and combat simulation training. And this process is very long and expensive, many countries usually prefer to train new healthy pilots.
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No problem I think. He will be transfered to Stargate program and made part of SG-1, or maybe even transfered to permetheous to send him to pegasus galaxy.
 
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when u realize this is not a successful pilot rescue op

But a failed HEU capturing op

The Pilot rescue is just a smokescreen
 
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