Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[baqai]

Name should not be a concern of anybody.until forum rules are not violated.

mention of rules coming from someone named Trump is beyond Ironic (google the meaning of ironic, it does not mean having iron in any metaphorical way)

 

[Immortals]

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[Desert]

There is no "ground invasion" of Bahrain. It sits across the Persian Gulf and Iran has no navy/expeditionary capability. Iran's best bet would be to harass and damage US forces if they were to take over Kharg island. Otherwise, how would Iran keep its forces supplied if they occupied Kuwait?

Don't think its their strategy either.

ok how about sabotage missions inside the gulf states by iranian special forces or sleeping cells?

 

[ShapurII]

More than KSA, it's Iran's own policies that make things tricky. I am quite sure Iran would have similar opinions about Pakistan's policies, and they might actually be true as well. But for Pakistan, Iran's tilt towards India has been problematic since the fall of the Shah, and the anti-Pakistan militants and RAW agents often operating from Iranian soil haven't helped the matter either. Despite this, Pakistan is quite possibly the only country in the immediate neighborhood holding relatively favorable views for Iran, regardless of regime type and its policies.

If KSA ever influenced Pakistan's Iran policy, then quite possibly you would have had a hostile Pakistan to your East, and it would be acting either passively or worse, antagonistically, during the current conflict, much like the Gulf states. What you instead have is Pakistan's balancing act beyond its best. We have never seen such diplomatic maneuvering in our history, not even for Pakistan's own sake, just to end the conflict that we are not directly part of.

Do you think KSA doesn't want us to drop bombs on Iran while it targets its oil fields? They would love for us to do that. Yet, Islamabad and Rawalpindi stay awake late in the night discussing peace plans with both Washington and Tehran. Iran should learn to discern between friends and exploiters.

There is no tilt towards India. It's an imaginary idea that exists in Pakistan only, due to your obsession with that particular country.

Iran had a 10-year deal with India to develop Chabahar, signed by a treasonous c*nt called Rohani in 2015, which fortunately ended in 2025 and was not renewed.

Besides that, Iran had amicable relations with India before Modi came to power. Pakistan had stable relations with India in that period too. Both countries wanted to create a joint pipeline ("Peace Pipeline", also known as IPI). Modi has been a huge set back for India.

Whatever you said about KSA-Pakistan relations, also applies to Iran-India relations. Iran has never been hostile to Pakistan. Iran also has been very consistent on the issue of Kashmir. Probably one of the few Muslim countries in the world that has done that.

 

[Kharral]

I'm curious. Does IRGC have any plans for ground invasion of Bahrain and Kuwait in case things got worse ? and how will the IRGC transport troops hmmm

Kuwait is fairly straightforward, Bahrain however is a challenging operation.

 

[SolarWarden]

He will lose the elections if the war continues.

What elections? This is his second and final term as for the mid terms Orangeman said it himself just about every president who had the house or senate when elected has lost the house or senate during mid term elections. It's almost guarantee a president will lose the house or senate during mid term elections. He's still going to be president until Jan 20th 2029 which means he has plenty of time to burn it all down.

 

[Bilal]

Iran once again rejects Pakistan’s proposal for a temporary ceasefire, demands permanent end to war instead:
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Source: MSN
@Bratva @Watandar @That_Guy @M. Sarmad @Bilal @Persian Gulf

You cannot make the horse drink the water. Since all parties are so eager, let them duke it out.

 

[Immortals]

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This is who the Iranian diaspora cheered to bomb their country

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

... If his hubris prevails, things will get a lot worse before they get better and Iran will not surrender. This is what worries me. Trump needs to cut his losses and not let Netanyahu et-al influence him any more. Which is easier said than done.

Israeli strategy appears to be very simple.

Cause so damage to Iran so that after the US and Iran have ceasefire, the Israelis can continue hitting Iran as and when they like without any US support.

They're trying to impose the Syria/Iraq model on Iran where Iran is finished as a nation state.

With every single passing day, every single infrastructure that is destroyed, Iran becomes weaker.

Some people want to see Iran fight to death now, rather than face a slow death. I don't believe this thinking is correct.

Once the Americans remove their "armada" from the region (which they will have to), they won't be picking another fight with Iran in the future.

 

[Himalayan]

When it concerns Israel, I agree with you 100%, but things start to get tricky when Saudi Arabia gets involved. It's sort of like a love triangle.

Also, Pakistan wants to, and has to, maintain good relations with the US and I don't blame you for that. It's only reasonable and fair to pursue your interests.

IRAN-PAKISTAN-SAUDI ARABIA unity & Love triangle of collective security , energy cooperation and stability with shared culture and future vision.

 

[Kharral]

Bigger question, why would Pakistan estimate/hypothesize on the size of the Iranian arsenal? It is bogus news just to implicate Pakistan for one reason or another.

To all the Juvenile posters here ( including myself ) this right here is an example of Pakistani Humility & Patriotism. Take Notes.

 

[ShapurII]

Hitting Israel’s petrochemical does very little strategically. They won’t be deterred. But I’m sure Iran will try. Iran hit Haifa badly in 12 war and has some smaller success hits during this war. Neither did much to stop Israeli aggression.

It will rise gasoline prices worldwide.

Why do you think they won't be deterred? And if they won't be deterred, how do you think they will respond to no response at all?

Because we didn't render Haifa refinery inoperable. As I said, we damaged it slightly. We did not use enough fire power to render it inoperable for months.

The wild card here is the last major oil player — Saudi Arabia that is still pumping an estimated 7MBPD and exporting 5MBPD thru the Red Sea. Halting that production will truly create a far greater energy crisis that will lead to the end of the war.

Tit for Tat with Israel won’t go anywhere. they won’t stop.

Houthis of Yemen have been a disappointment so far. I don't know if they are waiting for something or not, but so far they have abandoned Iran.

 

[PakSword]

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How would Pakistan know this? Zionist propaganda are all over the place.

Pakistan is doing an amazing job in getting their ***** blasted by telling these numbers. Even if they are not true, Natanyahu must have visited the toilet at least 3 times in an hour.

 

[Kharral]

No, there is no ground invasion happening of Arab countries by Iran. Makes zero sense and Iran doesn’t have the ability to provide logistics to those forces across the Persian Gulf.

@Desert the key word here is “Iran”.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Reporter : Mr President, Do you expect VP Vance to continue to be talking to the intermediaries from Pakistan?

Trump : Well he is and we have steve witkoff and jerry.

Reporter : Do expect the VP could be involved in an in person meetings with the officials in the upcoming days?

Trump : Could be. Could be. Could be.