Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ibbi32]

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@Shags101
@Persian Gulf
@ShapurII

Why would you be sending an artillery brigade if peace is on the horizon? Or operations are wrapping up in 2 weeks.

An arkansas brigade? The units with state names in them are American national gaurd units. Afaik USNG deployments to middle east are very rare and they are ussually if ever deployed only to Europe. It is clear that this will not be a deployment of ready units anymore but mobilising reserve units as well. Us are preparing for long term deployments and likely invasion

 

[Aryan_B]

Under these circumstances Pakistan should threaten Israel with Nukes and carry out if necessary

 

[PakistanLVR]

Its not a great Idea to give Israel's Vassal slaves access to our country especially when it comes to our infrastructure. What was the point of the Islamic revolution if we are to go back to the days of the shah when the Shah had to lower his gaze around U.S contractors?

fair points. Just like IAEA or whatever its called shared information with the entity and that's how they prepared to hit out at Iran's scientists.

 

[ShapurII]

The sanctions were just facade. China and Russia couldn't openly act against the NPT and openly support a Korean nuke, so they voted for sanctions.

Source: trust me, bro.

Over the years, I have read extensively about the topic of nukes....it would be way too time consuming now to talk about it, so very short:

Even before the establishment of the NPT, but especially after the NPT every country that got a nuke only got it because they had the support of at least one major nuke country.

But even Russia and China are against an Iranian nuke, and that is also the reason for Khameneis fatwa: not because he really believed that nukes are Haram, but because he knew nobody would accept an Iranian nuke.

And if theoratically tomorrow Iran would test a nuke, then only because Russia and/or China somehow changed their mind....but as long as that does not happen, Iran will NEVER have a nuke....accept it!

Again, source: trust me, bro.

 

[Starlord]

I was a staunch supporter of Iran's building nuclear weapons like N.Koreans did, that not only safe guard Iran but also pushed KSA to secure their own nuclear weapons, and then we will have not 1 (Pakistan) but 3 major Islamic powers with nukes. This false assumption that if KSA/Iran has nukes they will be launching at every chance they get, they used to say that same about Pakistan and North Korea, and history is evident that countries with nukes has secured their countries and made level headed decisions, Iranian leaders who ever stop Iran from getting nukes has done the biggest disservice to their country.

World will not be the same going forward, as civilians who were once protected under conflict Despite them being caught in cross fire many times, now countries will not give a damn about it, Bibi started this with Gaza and not a single world leader came forward to stop it, Russia rolled over Ukraine and now Iran is pretty much gone, if survived it wont be same Iran. What a shitty world we live in, Covid, wars and conflicts nothing but misery.

 

[clutch]

How about just "Republic of Iran" without a quasi constitutional supreme body like Islamic council. Like turkey or pakistan.

It's Israel that's calling the shots. Israel wants the balkanization of Iran. It wants disunity wants to break up that's its regional breaking down any counterweight or future potential. It's not the Islamic regime of Iran That's a threat. It's Iran as a United strong country. Be it Islamic Democratic or whatever ism. That's the goal. Israel's opportunity for hegemony of the region is vested on the fact that there is no count er balance to Israel's power. That's not something I'm making up Israeli government nothing. Yahoo others have very openly and candidly spoken about this greater Israel project. Even nothing yahoo said that on his recent speech where he spoke of Israel as a superpower.

 

[mythbuster]

Do the Iranian people know about Trump's ultimatum and the approaching deadline? Asking since I hear the internet is cut off and TV / radio stations have been destoryed?

Khawab a khargosh mein gum heinh.

 

[Musings]

Under these circumstances Pakistan should threaten Israel with Nukes and carry out if necessary

I think a month ago would have said you mad. Today im beginning to agree with you

 

[koolio]

Iran is playing this game really weakly, because we're a non-nuclear state and we are scared shitless of that little terror state, it seems.

Iran should hit Israeli civilian infrastructure and areas, then as soon as Israeli response teams arrive at the scene, Hezbollah should target them with rockets to double tap. We should, but we don't because we're scared of nuclear war.

We should also target Israeli shelters and bunkers with heavy warheads, but we don't do that for the same reason.

Iran should have got the Nuclear weapons long time ago, nexus of Americans and Israelis are pure demons.

 

[LeonBlack08]

 

[Master Chief]

LMAO. Deal rejected:
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Your posts are entirely transparent, by the way.

Pakistan actually benefits from a decisive Iranian victory.

Opening the Strait under these circumstances of Israeli hegemony and the planned Israeli "daisy cutting" policy that they apply in Lebanon and Syria to their heart's content will harm Pakistan secondarily as it pushes Iran towards failure as a state. Secondly, a ceasefire that permits USA to muster their troops for an amphibious or airborne op across the Gulf is simply a disaster for Pakistan that is delayed by a month or two.

I have explained this to your kind on numerous occasions in this very thread.

Yes, I am not surprised Iran is rejecting anything that falls short of their national requirements, but that is out of Pakistan's hands and was never in Pakistan's hands to begin with.

Trying to desperately spin "defeat" for Pakistan in this scenario, for covert reasons that we know all too well, does not reflect well on your contributions to this discussion.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Iran is pretty much gone, if survived it wont be same Iran.

Please don't project your civilizational insecurities on Iran and Iranians. We will be around long after the US is gone and forgotten.

 

[ShapurII]

there is always another punch, nothing is constant or permanent. look at Japan, Germany among the few.

What "another punch" has Germany or Japan thrown at the US? Maybe I am missing something, but they seem pretty docile and obedient to the US, as far as I can see.

 

[Optical216]

Iran should have got the Nuclear weapons long time ago, nexus of Americans and Israelis are pure demons.

Next the USA will destroy cuba

Then it wil destroy canada as trump has already made threats


Trump never forgets his threats, he will destroy canada too if canada does not build a nuclear deterrent.

 

[Immortals]

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