Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

Pakistan users here who support the proposed deal only because it came out of the mouth of the Pakistan’s PM.

If Modi of India had delivered such a proposal they would be screaming how bad such a deal is and that India and Israel will stab you in the back.

 

[Aryan_B]

To all my Pakistani brothers, let's be honest here. The only reason you think this ceasefire is a good deal is because your country is involved in this. No problem I would maybe feel the same as you. But from an Iranian POV I don't understand how you can take this. Please put yourself in our shoes.

100% agree with you brother. I think it maybe we all so much do not want to see Iranian people to suffer but I agree this thing is just surrender and or playing Americas game.

I think Trump is bluffing and desperate he needs to stop quickly and doesnt want to look a loser etc

 

[kobra]

Trump on Pakistan’s 2-week deadline extension request:

“I’m not yet fully briefed. I can say this — I know him very well. He’s a highly respected man, all over.”

Fox News


Trump tells Fox News that he is currently in “heated negotiations” with Iran

Who is highly respected man all over?

 

[Shags101]

Iran can do the funny thing... Iran should insist that PAF should go into pact with Iran like they did with Saudia so that after 15 days iF israil and US comes to attack, PAF will defend Iran haha..

Pakistan should play dumb here let them deal their on own.. Damn we do, damn we not.

Pakistan should play dumb here let them deal their on own.. Damn we do, damn we not.

Agree

 

[Aziqbal]

To all my Pakistani brothers, let's be honest here. The only reason you think this ceasefire is a good deal is because your country is involved in this. No problem I would maybe feel the same as you. But from an Iranian POV I don't understand how you can take this. Please put yourself in our shoes.

We know and Iran is low on weapons you have few missiles and drones cant reach Israel

how long will you fight

wars are won with the availability of resources and men who need weapons

Pakistan is on your side, your our neighbours and brothers

take a break get your 60% Uranium to 90% and live too fight another day

your not weaker your stronger and you have the respect of the World

 

[Falcon29]

He will do deadline extension on his own as expected without a ceasefire.

He is not manipulating Iran but rather manipulating international community. These repeated threats are putting the world on edge only for him to back down and repeat next week over and over again.

Israel and Trump are trying to spread feelings of uncertainty and destabilization. Directly targeting the international community and their economies, going far beyond Iran.

This is Jewish Luciferian games and not negotiating tactics

They're deliberately trying to spread panic amongst the international community and also playing games with them emotionally

These Jewish games won't stop until the Jewish Supremacist race is stopped

 

[Bilal]

A one sided defense treaty in exchange for money and oil to keep the lights on? What do you call that?

Does anyone here really think that traitor and U.S. cuck MBS would ever support Pakistan if Israel and India attack it? Even Trump said MBS has to kiss my ass.

Iran would support Pakistan much more in such an event than Saudi Arabia.

Relying on MBS is relying on a snake who is in bed with Zionists and Americans. He would sell Pakistan in a heartbeat if it meant he keeps his throne.

For those who tell us to back off and don’t tell them what to do when we are trying to lower and then end the on going destruction. You sure are telling us much more on how we should run our affairs brother.

Of course, as we have been told that we don’t know anything about Iran’s matters but you seem to know everything about ours. Much obliged.

 

[Waz]

The Israelis are getting tired and their fake nation has suffered so much damage. The lull and ceasefire talks are a ruse to allow them to resupply, rest their pilots and replenish their stocks of interceptors.

 

[Kharral]

I understand the sentiment.

Anger needs to be directed first and foremost at Israel then these GCC states perhaps.

Unfortunately, as another member highlighted, Iranians just don't have sufficient capacity to hurt Israel in any meaningful way thus all the anger is directed at GCC (they bear responsibility too, I am not suggesting they are innocent).

Well if that’s the case & we don’t want Saudi to be targeted by Iranian retaliation & we are openly accusing of Israel of sabotaging our peace initiative then we must back our initiative with strength. We should provide the Iranians with targeting & intelligence capability to hit back at Israel.

Make no mistakes, if the roles were reversed Israel would do much worse against us.

We went against Israel when we had nothing, AlhamduLILLAH we aren’t as resourceless as we were back then.

If we are to maintain & preserve our credibility then we must not shy away from communicating in a different tone than we are already speaking in.

 

[Corax]

To all my Pakistani brothers, let's be honest here. The only reason you think this ceasefire is a good deal is because your country is involved in this. No problem I would maybe feel the same as you. But from an Iranian POV I don't understand how you can take this. Please put yourself in our shoes.

We all just want to stop seeing Iranians being killed, as well as Lebanese and Palestinians, rather than siding with the US or israel.

 

[hussain0216]

India is very cautious about entering into alliances, especially defense pacts. Our partnerships are meant to stand the test of time and adversity.
We do not engage in fair-weather alliances that we might not be able uphold when it truly matters, nor do we sign agreements merely to create an illusion of security to our populace.

Fatherland .. ..

 

[Starlord]

Iran can do the funny thing... Iran should insist that PAF should go into pact with Iran like they did with Saudia so that after 15 days iF israil and US comes to attack, PAF will defend Iran haha..

Pakistan should play dumb here let them deal their on own.. Damn we do, damn we not.

Do you really think we can play dumb here for long?

 

[Bratva]

To all my Pakistani brothers, let's be honest here. The only reason you think this ceasefire is a good deal is because your country is involved in this. No problem I would maybe feel the same as you. But from an Iranian POV I don't understand how you can take this. Please put yourself in our shoes.

Are you in Iran right now and willing to let your civilian infra be destroyed?

 

[KingQamaR]

That's because the Chinese are seeing The Americans undermine their own power at no cost to China, plus Chinese ships pass through just fine.

Meanwhile Pakistan is facing rising costs and will have to incur economic consequences.

China is suffering big time too of energy Hormuz Straits is closed , 100 tankers to maybe 5 reaching China.

 

[ShapurII]

You really need to get off your high horse. Ofcoarse Pakistan has deep self interest in this war stopping but so has every other country in the world. Yet who else is working this hard to get both sides to agree to some sort of compromise? The compromise will not be ideal for either side but that is always the case, that’s why it’s called a compromise. Both sides have their demand list but how realistic are they! Mock Pakistan all you want, but if they somehow succeed how many innocent Iranian lives will they have saved aside from the billions in infrastructure damage? That is what you consistently mock? On a final point, given Iran’s historic closeness to India including aiding Indian terror activities in Pakistan via Iran, Pakistan didn’t owe shit to Iran. Throwing their full support behind UAE and Saudi Arabia instead would probably have been very lucrative but did they? which makes their efforts even more commendable. Meanwhile what are your Indian buddies doing to help you? Don’t be the drowning man who strikes out at the sole hand trying to help him.

I have already answered in detail why this "compromise" does not work for Iran:

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Apr 7, 2026

So can Iran my Firend -> peace works both ways... it also gives time for cooler heads to prevail

IMO -> Islamic Rules of war teach us -> Treaty for peace > fight war now.



Iran can deploy equipment to dig out tunnel entrances -> move equipment between logistic hubs, ingest any industrial production of launchers in to safe storage.

Journalists can campaign for war crimes and damage... and recap of war lessons

ALOT can happen in 45 days

You are engaging me in a conversation that is already over in my opinion.

I will repeat it for the last time, hoping that people will no longer...

• ShapurII

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Read that again, you will find everything you need to know about my opinion there.

There has been no historic closeness to India. Stop writing nonsense. You actually do owe us a lot as Iran under the late Shah sent you our helicopters to help you fight against India in the 13-day conflict in 1971, besides tons of food and other humanitarian aids. I didn't want to bring it up, but yes, YOU DO OWE US FOR OUR CONSTANT SUPPORT. Also, Iran has been one of the few countries vocal on the issue of Kashmir.

We helped you militarily and directly both in 1965 and 1971:

Military Digest: When Iran and US teamed up to support Pakistan in 1965 and 1971 wars against India

As the US and Israel target Iran in 2026, a look back at declassified documents from the 1970s show that under the Shah, Iran acted as a "purchasing agent" for Pakistan. This arrangement was coordinated by President Richard Nixon and his NSA Henry Kissinger.

indianexpress.com

Even now, Pakistan is one of the countries that is being allowed safe passage at a discount by the IRGC. If you throw your full support behind the UAE and KSA, you will be denied that passage.