Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[r3alist]

Hey just my 2 cents but Israel and trump will break it and nothing to be gained for Iran at this point

Understood, but even in the context of war you have moments of diplomacy where you sit down on the table.



People are acting like suddenly in two days all the equations will change.


It's a negotiation and sometimes you start at opposite ends with the first offer but hopefully a formulation is worked out


Remember that if Iran entertains diplomacy, it could put pressure on trump domestically.

 

[Aryan_B]

US is strangling Chinas energy supply from stealing Venezuelan oil and now it’s attempt on Iranian oil . China will need oil supply if it ever decides to invade break away Taiwan. Don’t focus to much on trade deals this is the bigger geopolitical issue for China.

How was China "stealing" they pay for oil purchases. Americans steal

 

[Persian Gulf]

If Israel is now using David’s Sling interceptors produced in 2026, their air defences are in a terrible state

DS is already their back up interceptor if the missile can’t be intercepted by THAAD or Arrow

Can expect <50% interception rate within 1-2 weeks (mostly from US SM-3 and a few lucky Iron Dome shots).

 

[ShapurII]

ironically we are still mentally associated with USD, i would suggest change it to Yaun

Fair enough. I want 66.6 billion Yuan's in my bank account. That's an interesting number too.

 

[Falcon29]

Trump got absolutely played by Israel

But doesn't we exonerate Israel and Jews as they have big influence on this administration

Trump wants this to end before 60 days war powers he's granted and before World Cup Fifa kicks off

Israel knew that wouldn't be possible but dragged USA into war anyways

What happens to Fifa World Cup now if this escalates ? It won't be cancelled entirely but partially cancelled or moved to Europe or something

 

[LeonBlack08]

Further confirmation that IRGC is in complete control of the strait. Ships are passing only after they contact IRGC, make payment and then turn off their transponder to pass through the strait.

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[ShapurII]

Iran is now acting like Iraq during the First Gulf War. Iraq had a powerful military at that time, but its overconfidence led to its downfall. After the First Gulf War, Iraq never recovered and became a shadow of its former self, even though it sits on huge oil reserves.

If everything is destroyed, Iran will take ages to recover if it ever recover, while it cannot inflict comparable damage on Israel, the US, or the Gulf countries. In contrast, those countries would recover very quickly compared to Iran.

Iran has proved its point. Now its time to cool things otherwise this rhetoric will not take Iran anywhere.

Brother, trust me. It is not about overconfidence. I have already explained all the pros and cons of a ceasefire and Iran gains NOTHING from a ceasefire. You can read it all here:

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Apr 7, 2026

So can Iran my Firend -> peace works both ways... it also gives time for cooler heads to prevail

IMO -> Islamic Rules of war teach us -> Treaty for peace > fight war now.



Iran can deploy equipment to dig out tunnel entrances -> move equipment between logistic hubs, ingest any industrial production of launchers in to safe storage.

Journalists can campaign for war crimes and damage... and recap of war lessons

ALOT can happen in 45 days

You are engaging me in a conversation that is already over in my opinion.

I will repeat it for the last time, hoping that people will no longer...

• ShapurII

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The Persian Gulf states will cease to exist as we know them. If you think Iran cannot inflict comparable damage to them, you haven't been paying attention.

 

[Kharral]

See Side-winder's post above. This is the point that I have been making for over a week. Pakistan brokering peace is because Pakistan does not want to get roped into the war and pick sides.

Thus, spectating isn't much of an option for Pakistan given the current trajectory.

Pakistan isn’t a one trick pony & there are multiple ways of skinning a cat.

Mr Shehbaz is doing his job. We don’t want Saudi oil fields attacked & we know it’s Israel that’s sabotaging our efforts. We have a presence in Saudi, we can increase our presence even more. We must adopt an aggressive posture towards Israel & use our assets to surveil & snoop on Israel & provide Iran with the updates in return for no attacks on Saudi oil fields.

 

[The SC]

Prime Minister of Pakistan:

Diplomatic efforts aimed at a peaceful settlement of the war in the Middle East are progressing steadily, strongly and effectively

- I sincerely ask President Trump to extend the deadline by two weeks.

Pakistan is asking its Iranian brothers to open the Strait of Hormuz for two similar weeks as a gesture of goodwill.

***Israel disagrees with this and said they'd need at least another month of heavy bombings of Iran to even think about a ceasefire..

 

[PEITA DO CORINGAO]

Back in 1972, the United States dropped bombs to destroy North Vietnam cities for 12 days and nights, but still failed to subdue them.

 

[UKBengali]

If Israel is now using David’s Sling interceptors produced in 2026, their air defences are in a terrible state

DS is already their back up interceptor if the missile can’t be intercepted by THAAD or Arrow

Can expect <50% interception rate within 1-2 weeks

I heard “upgraded” David Sling had like 20% success rate against Iranian missiles.

They are firing like 4-5 against each Iranian MRBM that they will deplete within 1-2 weeks of these as well.

 

[Falcon29]

Iran should still deliver the strike package it had prepared for Israel

Assuming it is a deadline extension and not a ceasefire

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[Shags101]

Iraqi security forces are pushing protesters away from from Kuwaiti embassy

Unrelated to US

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So here’s food for thought yes most Iraqis are on Irans side I honestly don’t care if they are Sunni or Shia they are supporting Iran but I’m starting to think these protestors could be a set up to bring in armed men from different militias perhaps even Iranian forces intermixed with them in attempt to show they can and will hit back with their own allies and forces.

I can see this happening in Bahrain definitely Iran may be waiting to activate all of these sleepers very soon

 

[r3alist]

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[RealNapster]

There is a proverb in pashto language "Kuni odrigi kho Kuna e na odrigi", which loosely translates to A leopard can’t change its spots or You can’t straighten a dog’s tail.

So I am sure even if there is a ceasefire for 2 weeks. Israel won't stop and will attack in the middle of ceasefire. This will give the whole world idea why the peace isn't possible in ME with Israel being around. So Iran will get it's chance to get back to Israel on this.