Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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English translation:
I will say it again.

Long live Pakistan. The work that Pakistan has accomplished today will be remembered in the world for thousands of years.

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ShapurII said:
Yes, because Iran has such capable diplomats as we have seen in the last 2 rounds of negotiations and the JCPOA.


Iran waited like a sitting duck for 50 days as the US brought more aircraft and weapons to the Middle East until the US finally launched their attack. Has something changed this time?
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I can tell you this, We pakistanis understand your and other Iranians emotions. We felt the same way when Pakistan accepted ceasefire with India, while in the position of strength, we were angry and cursed our Govt and Military for not taking the advantage.

Please understand this, We all are spectators / cheer leaders, we do not have the real information of on going events and status ...etc... So, emotion are justified, but remember this, Getting back to your 100% or 500% capabilities is much easier from 50% as compare to 10% or 1%.

So, be proud of country as they stood alone against the sole super power of this world allied and help by another neuclear Power Ira-HELL and surrounded by Muslim Traitor cuntries.

Iran taught USA and pets a lesson, which they will never forget, just in 40 days, AlhamduliAllah.

Its time to start preparing for future, because if you were thinking that you can finish your enemies and they will not attack, you were fooling yourself. They will definitely come back and with more power, but INsha Allah Iran is still standing strong and will become only stronger with the time.

If nothing else, just see this ceasefire as a tactical retreat.......use it wisely.
 
Immortals said:
This war continues

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Starlord said:
broooooooooo Imagine PAF fighters escorting Iranian FM's plane into Pakistani Territory and visual that will came out of Islamabad will be historical.
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Essentially, we should escort them from Tehran as israel can do anything. In fact, send our own plane to carry them. Not doubting Iranian forces, but israel still has its assets on the ground that can pull out another Raisani helicopter crash.

Also, China should show its muscle by visiting Tehran. No one becomes a great power without a fight, challenging or showing a will for it.
If the ME is changing, then China should demonstrate it can play a balancing role.
 
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dbc said:
it is illegal per UNCLOS to charge a transit fee through international waters. I guess this means UNCLOS has to be amended with zero objections by all UN member states. I doubt it will happen.
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The Strait of Hormuz is not International Waters. It comprises territorial waters of Iran and Oman.

Freedom of navigation is not applicable. "Innocent passage" is applicable.

The same applies in Suez and Panama canals.
 
This is my opinion:
  • Trump entered this war over confident, thinking it will be over within a couple of days.
  • He wasn't expecting the closure of Hormuz, skyrocketing oil prices and markets bleeding.
  • Because the war plan was for a few days, he didn't plan for interceptors depleting over 6 weeks long war, the M.E bases and radars being destroyed.
  • He also didn't expect they will have to burn through large numbers of their stand-off weaponry like JASSM and Tomahawks.
  • Low stocks of standoff weapons forced US to take the risk of flying over Iran's territory, exposing them to AD.
  • With each passing day Iran's missile count and its efficacy was increasing, means US air superiority over Iran was diminishing with time and so were the Israeli interceptors.
  • Every few days Trump tried to announce the victory just because he wanted to get out of the war but Iran didn't let him do that.
  • If this war had kept going for few more weeks, many of the economies would have been crashed, Israel would've been rendered defenseless, and even US economy would be in chaos.
  • This ceasefire helps US more than it does help Iran, it helped Trump save his face from a humiliating defeat, or a genocidal action like using nukes.
 
Master Chief said:
Beautiful. Music to my ears.

What's better than a hindutva barking at the moon than a pahlavist screeching like a banshee?
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I want to break some Pahlavi's supporters heads. They are pigs and have this racial/religious hatred towards Pakistan - a lot like indians now that I think about it. And afghans too. There is no flag-bearer for Muslims, except Pakistan is given the role over and over again by the extreme Islamaphobes across the world.
 
dbc said:
it is illegal per UNCLOS to charge a transit fee through international waters. I guess this means UNCLOS has to be amended with zero objections by all UN member states. I doubt it will happen.
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It's also illegal to attack another country without any provocation, kill her civilian and military leadership, kill her children and unarmed civilians, destroy her civilian infrastructure as fun. Regards
 
Goenitz said:
Essentially, we should escort them from Tehran as israel can do anything.

Also, China should show its muscle by visiting Tehran. No one becomes a great power without a fight, challenging or showing a will for it.
If the ME is changing, then China should demonstrate it can play a balancing role.
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I agree a show of Power and determination is only way Israel can be hold back from screwing up the deal, Iranian leaders should be given top security from Tehran or where ever they are in Iran to be picked up with their own security but their Planes must be protected and escorted by PAF and possible PLAAF.
 
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kobra said:
Hopefully IA.. but their is always a danger as long as oing rabbid war criminal pig Natanyahu is in office
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Ben didn't want to stop but Orangeman likely made him an "offer" he couldn't refuse.
 
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