Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shakehands]

Iranian hackers on the roll.

 

[Shakehands]

Midget really wants to be the center of attention.

 

[Dark Knight]

Midget really wants to be the center of attention.

He is Jewish, has to be the centre of the Universe.

 

[SolarWarden]

Agreed, but this one is a good Pakistani

This tweet makes her sound like a moron. Only reason she said such thing is because she lives in UK and is not in any danger from any retaliation that would befall Pakistan if such a threat was carried out the way she wants it.

Women! Am I right fellas?

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Late Ali Khamenei issued a religious decree and declared nukes impermissible. The basis for that decree makes sense to some extent if you consider the mass destruction and harm it could bring to innocent civilian population.

Did he ever say or mention anything about closure of strait of Hormuz?

Because if you look at it, the end result is basically same (obviously on drastically varied scales but in religious terms a harm to civilian population is a harm).

Hasn't iran nullified his decree already in a way?

Besides the premise... once a nuke has been built, fielded and used... the onus has to be on it's deterrent value and not the destruction it causes... the genie is out of the bottle already.
And all you're doing is exposing yourself to it's consequences but not the reciprocal value it's endows the wielder. Which is why I strongly(dotards word) believe that a country with significant population and resources in a dog eat dog world ushered in by European colonial enterprises... as an instrument of destruction, not only of your civilization but to drain you off your resources!... should have nukes.
The US and zionist examples are the two still unfolding ones on the stage... both with impunity, sabotage, blackmail, non adherence to any conventions... nuclear or international law... impunity and recklessness, disregard for human life.

One must be really shielded or in a bubble to assume the bright side of real world consequences. Something that the west rewarded Iran in response to it's dithering... It cannot go without saying for the umpteenth time "THEY STARTED THIS WAR BY MURDERING THE ONE PERSON WHO STOPPED IRAN FROM GOING NUCLEAR!" make that make sense.
That you cannot make this judgement for your people ... unless you wish to become a victim of it... in this case Iran did. That puny little rats tail needs to be pounded till it mimics the pavement. Literally hundreds of thousands if not millions have paid the price for those who dithered on the very basic premise, safety of whom they were endowed to secure... it seems it is Baghdad all over for Muslims every few centuries... Mongols or mongrels! Just coming in and undoing those sleeping at the helm... the cushy life under the sun very easily becomes the new elixir, when devoid of any other... in hot burning sun of the desert and mirages all around.

So, back to the nuclear! Yes back to it and every thing out there in the toolkit for there just cannot be a repeat. Send polak packing!

 

[onlinpunit]

Oh boy, what do you think would happen when they killed Khamenei???.

IMO That was a diversion to work on Greater Israel Project.
The major hurdles were
Syria : Taken care by removal of Assad.
Iran : Attacked and Top leadership removed.
Lebanon : invasion coming soon.

 

[Frogen]

There will be no lifting of the US sanctions unless this war is over.

Iran and the US have to fight for months until one side gives up. The ceasefire was a gross mistake.

If Iran makes the world suffer, the world will return the favor. This war isn't just about military force—it’s a strategic chess game. Iran needs to show some sincerity. That way, even if they keep up their current strategy, the countries that want to support them actually have a legit reason to do so.

They can't afford to have the whole world against them. They need to make sure the global narrative is that Iran tried everything they could, and that the US and Israel are the ones sabotaging the peace.

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Garcia Sea]

I dare say that the Iranian leadership is not just incompetent, but has committed betrayal. Even if a ceasefire tantamount to a surrender is necessary, why not use these 14 days to fully prepare for battle by moving key figures to underground command centers, stockpiling supplies, reinforcing troops on the front lines, and mobilizing reserves? If Iran shows such preparations, the Ebstein coalition will hesitate to invade again. Why do they do nothing? Why do they only show a weak stance to avoid provoking the enemy? For the sake of peace, it is necessary to show a willingness to fight. A defenseless stance invites invasion and threatens the lives of Iranian children. Can someone explain to me why the mullahs cannot understand something so simple?

 

[Ali_Baba]

No, the US lost against Iran. We lost badly.

Tactically, USA won the military battles, but strategically USA lost the war. It could not get its tactical victories to be translated to political goals and objectives.

 

[Yasser76]

Your claim has bene debunked by NYT.

Again , what is the issue here? Desperate to make one i get that

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Ali_Baba]

Maybe it's conspiratorial thinking, but perhaps Trump is looking to dissolve NATO to open up the possibility of attacks on Turkey without them stepping in. Opinions @Eşbah ?

And that will be another war that Israel will lose.

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Musings]

IMO That was a diversion to work on Greater Israel Project.
The major hurdles were
Syria : Taken care by removal of Assad.
Iran : Attacked and Top leadership removed.
Lebanon : invasion coming soon.

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Good old Martin Neomoller