Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

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[Bharatah]

Brazil was never known to have geopolitical experts.... well, there is a first for everything.

Brazilian geopolitics experts are usually right; they speak before things happen.

 

[Falgrine]

I tend to think of Pakistan and Israel like two male lions in Africa: They know each other's strength too much to directly confront each other too much. Notice that during the India-Pakistan conflict of May 2025, even Israel did not name 'Pakistan' during Israel's support to India in that conflict.
As to the 'US is still the boss' in the Middle East: I don't think so. This war on Iran will change the regional dynamics far too radically.

I like you analogy.
Infact, in an alternative Universe in which Israel is not a brutal occupying force, we should be quite a bit of buddies . Another nation that also feels threatened and cornered from all four corners (three to be pedantic ). But lets come back to the actual reality. They are an unhinged beast unleashed on the region by big powers.

Well, Israeli techies were flying those bloody drones (Harops) inside our airspace.
The people who know know what types of gimmicks they performed over our installations. Better to leave it here, but suffice is to say that they made their direct presence known to us.

By the boss I had meant that the US has such a big force concentration in the CENTCOM AOR that its next to impossible to get sneaky sneaky.

 

[Blain2]

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I am always so proud of our airforce

I don't know if I would put a lot of trust in this reporting.

 

[SilentWatch]

I don't know if I would put a lot of trust in this reporting.

Same but I wish it true

Birds in the air for a guarded escort mission under hostile threat environment… we are also daring Israel to do something funny and make PAFs day…

If the Iranians fly or not is their call… plus we ain’t - verbal response is always packaged with kinetic

 

[KAL-EL]

Brazil was never known to have geopolitical experts.... well, there is a first for everything.

From what I understand, there are also geopolitical experts from Antarctica.

 

[hasn2009]

Saudis have much more modern and deadly conventional arsenal that we cant even allow ourselves to dream of.

Yeah, and many people don't know Saudia's defense spending are like 10x of what Pakistan spends on defence.

 

[Meengla]

Some things I could say with a high degree of confidence about the upcoming Islamabad negotiations:
1) Trump wanted out of this war and he almost certainly requested via Pakistan to Iran to give him a way out.
2) China prevailed upon Iran to be flexible, perhaps with some Chinese assurances, if not guarantees.
3) Israelis too want out except they want to consolidate their gains in southern Lebanon and that Israelis no longer care about Iran at this point, even if Israelis wanted to 'degrade' Iran some more.
4) Just like in the June 2025 conflict between Israel-America vs Iran, Pakistan's Field Martial Asim Munir is a critical factor in not only in negotiations but also in altering the offensive actions/plans of several countries.
5) I don't think the upcoming talks in Islamabad are going to fail! It is too simplistic to think that the mere 2-weeks allowed during the ceasefire for the talks to progress are enough for the Israelis-Americans to regroup and launch another attack, but in the same way, the Iranians too have the 2-weeks to regroup, enhance the communication channels, remove the moles more, and while continuing to retain the ability to choke the Strait of Hormuz.

In my own summary: Iran is the strategic victor but Lebanon needs to be saved.

 

[Yasser76]

Same but I wish it true

Birds in the air for a guarded escort mission under hostile threat environment… we are also daring Israel to do something funny and make PAFs day…

If the Iranians fly or not is their call… plus we ain’t - verbal response is always packaged with kinetic

Only real danger I see is a F-35 sneaking in and getting off a AMRAAM shot. Hopefully J-10C EW/Chaff can counter.

If it is their F-16s and F-15s, my money is on the J-10C to take them down. Also lets not forget of Israel did try it they would need tankers in the air they would light up on AWACS like a Christmas tree

 

[RocketLaw]

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Netanyahu's criminal trial resumes on Sun. A region-wide ceasefire, incl in Lebanon, would hasten his jailing.

If the U S. wishes to crater its economy by letting Netanyahu kill diplomacy, that would ultimately be its choice. We think that would be dumb but are prepared for it.

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Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova has said that the role Pakistan played in the war between the US and Iran will always be remembered in history!!

 

[HAIDER]

Trump says Vance may not attend peace talks in Pakistan over safety concerns​

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5822016-trump-iran-peace-talks/

seems Israeli lobby trying there best to keep JD away from talks. ..he has his own dimension , but............

 

[hasn2009]

I wish we have war gamed this scenario.
But conventionally our options are not too many.
The newly created ARF might not have enough long arms to do any thing tactically.

A big gap for our conventional aerial offensive reach.

Pakistan's arsenal is not Israel centric, if something happens, our tankers and AWACS will be shot down by F35's, and our jets will not be able to reach Israel. Our only hope will be the Intermediate range ballistic missiles, which I am not sure if we have them in high numbers to overwhelm Israeli defenses. Our submarines may be able to do something though.

 

[dbc]

From what I understand, there are also geopolitical experts from Antarctica.

that expert is also a part time samba dancer at the Classico de Copa a very renounced highly regarded expert.

 

[mythbuster]

Some things I could say with a high degree of confidence about the upcoming Islamabad negotiations:
1) Trump wanted out of this war and he almost certainly requested via Pakistan to Iran to give him a way out.
2) China prevailed upon Iran to be flexible, perhaps with some Chinese assurances, if not guarantees.
3) Israelis too want out except they want to consolidate their gains in southern Lebanon and that Israelis no longer care about Iran at this point, even if Israelis wanted to 'degrade' Iran some more.
4) Just like in the June 2025 conflict between Israel-America vs Iran, Pakistan's Field Martial Asim Munir is a critical factor in not only in negotiations but also in altering the offensive actions/plans of several countries.
5) I don't think the upcoming talks in Islamabad are going to fail! It is too simplistic to think that the mere 2-weeks allowed during the ceasefire for the talks to progress are enough for the Israelis-Americans to regroup and launch another attack, but in the same way, the Iranians too have the 2-weeks to regroup, enhance the communication channels, remove the moles more, and while continuing to retain the ability to choke the Strait of Hormuz.

In my own summary: Iran is the strategic victor but Lebanon needs to be saved.

Bro , it seems you have been swept off your feet by much happening internet warriors.... you have declared Iran a victor ! Thanks God I didn't have a hot cup of tea in my hand.

 

[Olympus81]

Why does PAF need to fly its asset over the Middle East to cater for the Iranians. Sure its okay to welcome the Iranians when they get into Pakistani airspace but this seems like a complete waste of time, resources and dangerously fraught with risks.