Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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And people on here still think Iran can strike a deal with Trump who is surrounded by Mossad agents.

And this point Iran isn’t negotiating with US it’s negotiating with Bibi.
 
This guys on da money here gents:

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925boy said:
In your perception or reality? Asking because you are ignoringIran's main strength- resilience!

Which iranian leaders agree with this?I never heard them panicking, even though things aren't good in ira due to the war.

based on your perception or the Iranian nation's consensus? Iran is not like the Western economies we live in and it's very resilient and can sustain itself in many creative and effective ways if it has to. You forgot Iran has been under heavy sandrikns for 40 years plus and is still thriving? ran didnt collapse in 40 years of sanctions but it will under 60 or 90 days of a US blockade? You will also learn more about Iran, like many of us too, from this war.

You're paranoid, and while I understand your worry about Iran, you seem to be panicking which isn't very rational or helpful at this critical time.

US and israels attack has consolidated Iranian society, a big blessing and benefit for iran fromcthis war, so no civil war of revolution will occur. Those Kurdish isis in northern Iraq are so incompetent and have no direction.

Yes it does, because iran is an expert at asymmetrical insurgency warfare. Also, how would you know? You got insider IRGC information we don't?
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Stop writing retarded bullshit. You're one of those idiots who said Iran didn't need nuclear weapons or an air force which has brought Iran to this point where we have become the laughing stock of the academics, and even people here on PDF. They recite Iran's nuclear situation as "nuclear grievance" in academic circles now, a situation that is very much unique to Iran. No other country has wasted over a trillion dollars on a nuclear program that achieved nothing. You have zero credibility here.

And you're not even Iranian to begin with. You're some Nigerian guy with literally next to no military knowledge, and no knowledge of the Iranian society, that writes nonsense all the time.

There is no consolidation in Iranian society. People are just waiting to see what will happen. Nearly every person in Iran thinks that the war will start again soon, that's why everyone is silent because they don't want to make a choice in a situation with too many unknowns. That's not consolidation. Even the supporters of the regime are more divided than ever because Iran accepted a ceasefire at the will of the Americans again, and the nuclear fatwa seems to be still in place.

Even the most conservative pro-IR fractions like Foad Izadi, Saeed Jalili, Amirhossein Sabeti, etc. inside Iran are pissed off and do not trust others in the system. They know that Iran has entered an unstoppable cycle of war, imposed ceasefire at the US will and fruitless negotiations under maximum economic pressure and blockade to prepare for the next cycle.
 
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And people on here still think Iran can strike a deal with Trump who is surrounded by Mossad agents.

And this point Iran isn’t negotiating with US it’s negotiating with Bibi.
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Silly assumption this
 
kobra said:
Dialouges are of no use. Why announced ceasefire only to do surprise attack. Thats 3rd time in a year. What a fool Iranians are.
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Don't expect much from the Iranian system. They have cornered themselves so much with their stupid anti-West stance that they're basically at the mercy of China and Russia now. The Chinese wanted a ceasefire and China buys nearly 85% of our oil, besides that we needed China's veto in the UNSC against Bahrain's proposal.

Bahrain's proposal to the UNSC openly called for military action against Iran in the Strait of Hormuz. Voting on it was suspended for nearly 2 weeks until the Chinese and the Russians vetoed it, and Iran accepted the ceasefire in less than 24 hours after that. Coincidence? I don't think so.
 
BigMela2onin said:
Well the US has surmised that Iran will never launch a first strike and will accept any ceasefires offered. As long as that remains true they have total control over the flow of the conflict. The blockade has been quite brilliant, I doubt it was Trump's idea. Trump can't just keep unilaterally extending the ceasefire while maintaining the blockade. There really isn't a military reason to resume the conflict from their prespective.
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There was nothing brilliant or unpredictable about the blockade.
I already said that they could've done a blockade on our imports/exports during the war, and the only reason they didn't do that at the time was because they were afraid of oil prices rising above $150 per barrel. It was quite predictable, easily.

We accepted a stupid ceasefire and it gave them the opportunity to impose a blockade on us without causing an economic disaster for poor countries and Europe.
 
ShapurII said:
Don't expect much from the Iranian system. They have cornered themselves so much with their stupid anti-West stance that they're basically at the mercy of China and Russia now. The Chinese wanted a ceasefire and China buys nearly 85% of our oil, besides that we needed China's veto in the UNSC against Bahrain's proposal.

Bahrain's proposal to the UNSC openly called for military action against Iran in the Strait of Hormuz. Voting on it was suspended for nearly 2 weeks until the Chinese and the Russians vetoed it, and Iran accepted the ceasefire in less than 24 hours after that. Coincidence? I don't think so.
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As if Iran gives a **** about some shitty resolution. Countries who want to join in on Hormuz won’t need a shitty resolution to do it.
 
mangekyo said:
As if Iran gives a **** about some shitty resolution. Countries who want to join in on Hormuz won’t need a shitty resolution to do it.
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That shitty resolution called on countries to form a military coalition against Iran. Considering how Iran responded to the UNSC resolutions that put us under Chapter VII, effectively forcing us to abandon our nuclear program without a fight, and considering how scared Iran is of truly destroying Israeli infrastructure, or destroying US military assets in Turkey, I am sure that Iran does give a shit about further military actions by an international coalition.
 
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1) continue to keep the Strait closed by force

2) seize more ships to trade for our vessels later

3) plant hundreds of mines in the normal shipping lanes of the Strait

4) Yemen to close Bab el Mandeb

one ship was approached by the IRGC-N but escaped and left to Fujairah. in this instance, a drone attack from land is suitable to punish the ship.
 
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