Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Master Chief said:
She is 100% indian saaaaaar.

It's good that they embarrass themselves routinely now.
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Really pathetic, trying to get a gotcha moment on Pakistan with Trump and it backfired, he ended up complimenting us. Of course he knows we opened land routes, Trump is aware that Pak relations with Iran right now are actually an asset he can use
 
Yasser76 said:
Really pathetic, trying to get a gotcha moment on Pakistan with Trump and it backfired, he ended up complimenting us. Of course he knows we opened land routes, Trump is aware that Pak relations with Iran right now are actually an asset he can use
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But for how long bro. Trump is completely unpredictable 😳
 
Fatman17 said:
But for how long bro. Trump is completely unpredictable 😳
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True, but one thing I have taken away from this whole saga is that if Iran can do this to the US, US surely knows now it can never attack Pakistan
 
Yasser76 said:
Yes, also gives us leverage as a mediator. Fighter jets in Saudi and land route for Iran. Have to say, Pak foreign policy seems to be on fire at the moment, very very effective....
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Easy bro, you are projecting that Pakistan poses potent tools for "Club or carrot" pressure over Iran... even USA is no more powerful for it...

Pakistan could be informed about Iranian targets in KSA just before attacks started to avoid unnecessary issues, but that is a limit of Pakistani power projecting on Iran...

Although, Pakistani people generally have positive opinions about Iran, so subjects like this are unrealistic and far from real case situation.
 
Zartosht said:
Iranian money: worthless

Iranian passport: less then worthless

Iranian entertainment, arts, personal freedoms: heavily constrained by the government

Inflation: endless

Jobs: non-existent

War, sanctions and endless uncertainty: permanent state of Iran post-revolution

Nuclear program: hundreds of billions spent, and possibly trillions in sanctions and opportunity losses.. result: some worthless dirt that destroyed Irans economy with no benefit of a nuclear bomb..

The Iranian government has absolutely failed miserably and historically in every imaginable metric except for : independence and internal security (big stuff like insurgency, regional separatism etcc).

Now that Iran has become the new lebanon thanks to their stupidity where the US and israel will bomb and “ mow the lawn “ as they please every 6 months….. what doees the government have left to offer the Iranian people?

Iranians are extremely patriotic and will rally around the flag when an outside threat emerges. But once that dies down, the full wrath and frustration are going to come down like an avalanche.

The IR regine thinks this temporary boost in national unity is permenant. And is gravely miscalculating if they think Iranians are going to accept another 40 years of khamenei Incompetence….

It is remarkable how badly they have played their hand in this war…. They had everything going for them and they completely pissed it away
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The Us offering OnlyFans is a win instead 😁
 
925boy said:
Well, this @ShapurII guy on this thread has also been pushing that same "iran will soon have internal protests narrative and its currency will collapse", so he's probably been swallowing all the zionistic msm propaganda, hook line and sinker. And when u disagree wirh him and stand your ground, he will blow up on you and start attacking you.
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Even if in Iran some groups organise internal protests, their demands would certainly not be Iranian defeat by usa-zio aggression...

Political internal divisions of the nation are different subject from national integrity and national interests...

Healthy for nation is if fractions have same intentions but different ways to get it...

Only Pehlavi followers, Iranian branch of zionistic lobby union, and terroristic MEK communists and their followers are openly declared Iranian state's enemies in Iran, but they are irrelevant minority...at best...
 
Yasser76 said:
True, but one thing I have taken away from this whole saga is that if Iran can do this to the US, US surely knows now it can never attack Pakistan
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Wow. Lots of confidence. Iranian military composition is very different from Pakistan. Pakistan is more conventional and the US may have a better idea of how to deal with it. The Iranians completely surprised the US.
 
Zartosht said:
Iranian money: worthless

Iranian passport: less then worthless

Iranian entertainment, arts, personal freedoms: heavily constrained by the government

Inflation: endless

Jobs: non-existent

War, sanctions and endless uncertainty: permanent state of Iran post-revolution

Nuclear program: hundreds of billions spent, and possibly trillions in sanctions and opportunity losses.. result: some worthless dirt that destroyed Irans economy with no benefit of a nuclear bomb..

The Iranian government has absolutely failed miserably and historically in every imaginable metric except for : independence and internal security (big stuff like insurgency, regional separatism etcc).

Now that Iran has become the new lebanon thanks to their stupidity where the US and israel will bomb and “ mow the lawn “ as they please every 6 months….. what doees the government have left to offer the Iranian people?

Iranians are extremely patriotic and will rally around the flag when an outside threat emerges. But once that dies down, the full wrath and frustration are going to come down like an avalanche.

The IR regine thinks this temporary boost in national unity is permenant. And is gravely miscalculating if they think Iranians are going to accept another 40 years of khamenei Incompetence….

It is remarkable how badly they have played their hand in this war…. They had everything going for them and they completely pissed it away
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Is this ironic post, or real comparison between Iran and Lebanon, leveling up the internal division to same level in both countries...

Dreams about Iranian internal military clashes and fragmentation of regions against Tehran central government died immediately when they were projected, early 90' of the previous century...only Ballochis and some Kurdish fractions may have such wishes, and both of them are not strictly Iranian issues, but regional and so they couldn't be counted here...
 
Fatman17 said:
Wow. Lots of confidence. Iranian military composition is very different from Pakistan. Pakistan is more conventional and the US may have a better idea of how to deal with it. The Iranians completely surprised the US.
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Pakistan must have tricks up its sleeves

Fair enough we have nuclear weapons as a safe guard,
But if we simply rely on our airforce or conventional means, and they get hit in war then we have a problem

For all the harm inflicted on Iran, Iran has the ability to use drones and missiles to harm U.S bases and interests and allies and cause economic chaos regardless of how hard they hit Iran
 
Fatman17 said:
Wow. Lots of confidence. Iranian military composition is very different from Pakistan. Pakistan is more conventional and the US may have a better idea of how to deal with it. The Iranians completely surprised the US.
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There is only one way they can go on a full scale war with Pakistan, it is via India.

There is no way their aircraft carriers and amphibious ships be of any threat. If anything, Iran has proved they were sitting ducks.

This is where Pakistan Armed Rocket Force will be vital.
 
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